anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 01:43AM

thetonynator wrote: »

Well you've clearly stated your reasons for voting for sinn fein, it hasn't stopped you posting here. Especially when this thread is called ''anyone here going to vote for sinn fein?'' not ''why you should vote for sinn fein''.

And quit all the peace and harmony shít. No ones fooled.

Nator,

I firmly believe in the Godly principle of Peace and it is high time a lot more people would come to the same belief.

I still believe that posters who continue to throw abuse at SF would find the other thread i.e 'Why I am not voting for Sinn Fein' a more suitable arena. What do you think?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 06-02-2011 01:43AM

mccoist wrote: »

This election is really about third place who will lead the opposition in the next coming dail
FG and LABOUR will be the next goverment
The best party to keep them honest is a strong SF
To make FF the third party is just more of the same old shenanigans we have had for the last 90 odd years
Lets have a real goverment not a bunch of old cronies and sliveens just wasting our lives selling us bull
Change is good you know

theres no difference between ff and fg
they all say bull ,so please dont feed the crap out again as was said for last 60 years,

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 02:05AM

Oh_Noes wrote: »

Surely you meant the Small Faces. You're not a mod at all! :eek:

No I meant The New Faces, a mod culture photographic exhibition, see link below. The Small Faces were an excellent Mod group too in fairness! I am still a Sinn Fein voter!

http://www.modculture.info/2010/02/the-new-faces-mod-photo-exhibition.html

Now that's sorted, Noes, Are you going to vote for Sinn Fein or what?:eek:

KELTICKNIGHTT · 06-02-2011 02:06AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

No I meant The New Faces, a mod culture photographic exhibition, see link below. The Small Faces were an excellent Mod group too in fairness! I am still a Sinn Fein voter!

http://www.modculture.info/2010/02/the-new-faces-mod-photo-exhibition.html

Now that's sorted, Noes, Are you going to vote for Sinn Fein or what?:eek:

think you got your answer , NO WAY

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 02:10AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

think you got your answer , NO WAY

Thanks, Knighty for supplying us with clarity for yourself but Oh Noes still hasn't answered the thread's question. Give him a bell would you and sort him out for the rest of us.:D

SafeSurfer · 06-02-2011 02:12AM

sharkie66

Surfer,

Now that you have your thinking cap on. Have you ever for one moment thought about what you are asking Mr Adams to do? Go to court and start a long legal process to defend his good name.
Yes exactly I think the Irish electorate deserve that.

[/QUOTE]The same name which for the last 35 years has been attacked non-stop by the pro Brit media in this country. What chance would he have for a fair legal process? I think you know the answer and that is your strength and you are right to play to it but it still doesn't make any of the HEARSAY true. If you tell the lie long enough......!.!

The allegations stand. Let him sue for libel if they are unfounded.

Another factor is involved here if Gerry was ever to take you up on your suggestion then his immediate and extended family would come under the most horrible stress and duress. Sexual abuse in one's family is difficult enough to face within the family arena even with support of the social services and counsellors. Can you imagine what would happen to the family in the glare of publicity which would surround the case? Then again I am sure you have the best intentions on your mind for the family when you continue to spout your vitriol on this thread!:eek: Gerry Adams cannot be held responsible for his brother's actions and you know that!:eek:.

My whole point is that Gerry Adams did nothing to protect the victims suffering within his own family and only protected his paedophile brother, putting him in a position in the community where he was free to sexually abuse other children.

[B]...would also teach the vindictive anti Sinn Fein press a lesson.[/B]

Regarding your assertion above I am delighted we agree about the Irish Independent Newspaper group. I knew you would come round to the voice of reason.:D

Beir bua!

Let Gerry Adams defend his good name and sue for libel if the reports of his protection of an incestuous child rapist are unfounded.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 06-02-2011 02:13AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Thanks, Knighty for supplying us with clarity for yourself but Oh Noes still hasn't answered the thread's question. Give him a bell would you and sort him out for the rest of us.:D

not a sinn fein bell i hope

as wouldnt work :-)

SafeSurfer · 06-02-2011 02:27AM

fuked wrote: »

I feel that SF couldn't do any worse than what has already been done to our lovely country Ireland!!! As for FF and not forgetting the Greens... Well they have done more that the British have in 700 years. They destroyed it!

FG, Labour, FF, Greens, Independents, the defunked PD's have all contributed to this, as they have all been in power in some way over the years. If it weren't for such a party like SF, who might I add were kept out of the policitical arena for years. And don't forget, all the parties have blood on their hands show how or other. So, if anyone wants to know something or have action taken, just go to your local SF councilor / TD and you will get both a reply and action taken.

I guess its all over now, bar the shouting, and I bet David Camoron is rubbing his has with glee.

Unless you are the niece of the Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams and you have been sexually abused by his brother.

lmimmfn · 06-02-2011 02:31AM

i would vote Sinn Fein because i dont think a Labout/FG coalition is going to work, both parties will be too strong, and the only reason i would vote Sinn Fein is because theres no other non powerful party to vote far, couldnt ever vote FF after the mess, Boyd Barrett is an idiot, independents have messed with all the major Dail votes in the past year being bought for votes and in return getting their local community stuff.

Also, Sinn Fein would be great to have on the negotiations for EU/IMF only to scare them off lol.

Oh_Noes · 06-02-2011 02:37AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

http://www.modculture.info/2010/02/the-new-faces-mod-photo-exhibition.html

Now that's sorted, Noes, Are you going to vote for Sinn Fein or what?:eek:

My mistake, cheers for that info.

And yes I will be voting Sinn Fein this time around. I never have before but they have a very promising young candidate in Athlone who shall be getting the only X on my ballot paper.

Capt'n Midnight · 06-02-2011 03:06AM

Oh_Noes wrote: »

My mistake, cheers for that info.

And yes I will be voting Sinn Fein this time around. I never have before but they have a very promising young candidate in Athlone who shall be getting the only X on my ballot paper.

LOL

You put an X on the Westminster elections.

Elections down here are PR and you've just spoiled your vote

Capt'n Midnight · 06-02-2011 03:16AM

fuked wrote: »

With all the creditibility questions flying round. Who are the next government going to be? It looks like that Gerry Adams may have some questions to answer, but so have all the rest. So while we wait for an answer to the questions, like through the tribunal system. The country goes down the pan.
Now, it looks like SF don't have as many questions as the other parties have to answer. Since they never really got a chance to run Ireland. So why not give SF a crack at the whip for a change... Or SF and Labour in power and have some focus on the working class people of Ireland and give them back the dignity! If anyone thinks that none of the politicial parties in Ireland have no questions to answer, their wrong!

As for who I'll be voting for. Well SF of course, and just to add I have 4 children of voting age that have partners, who I will ask to vote for SF., because I feel SF can do the job!

Gerry has been on the run and been interred, ancient history of course, but point is he is well used to keeping secret as are many of the older members of the party.

SF and Labour in power , together ?
How many ex-Workers party/DL members are still in Labour ?
How many date from when it used to be called "Sinn Fein the workers party ?"
SF weren't even in the Rainbow coalition

How can they do the job if they aren't in government ???

Chipboard · 06-02-2011 03:23AM

oldyouth wrote: »

As long as I can draw breath and reach a ballot box, I'll never, ever, vote for Sinn Fein. God forgive me for saying this, but I'd rather have Brian Cowen declared life Taoiseach than have one of those people represent me.

You don't state the reason for your objection to Sinn Fein so I am going to address two popularly held reasons which may be relevant;

You are taking exception to Sinn Fein because of its roots in the Republican movement.

If you knew anything you'd know that all over the world there are Governments who came to power through armed struggle - governments who freed their people from oppression. Its easy to be an armchair critic but if you lived in the North you would have an entirely different perspective.

You think that Sinn Fein doesn't have the experience or that their policies don't make sense.

Fianna Fail have been in power for 20 of the last 23 years and they have succeeded in destroying the Irish economy. How could you possibly argue that Sinn Fein are worse than Fianna Fail. What could possibly happen under Sinn Fein that would be worse than the events of the last 5 years?

errlloyd · 06-02-2011 03:34AM

Never voting for Sinn Fein, ever...

Not only do they have no economic policy that works. But they have no social policy that works. And they have a foreign policy that actively doesn't work.

And oh yes, I take massive issue with their republican routes, attitudes on abortion, lack of distance between church and state, backward attitude to education and sport. And all of that.

i would vote Sinn Fein because i dont think a Labout/FG coalition is going to work, both parties will be too strong, and the only reason i would vote Sinn Fein is because theres no other non powerful party to vote far, couldnt ever vote FF after the mess, Boyd Barrett is an idiot, independents have messed with all the major Dail votes in the past year being bought for votes and in return getting their local community stuff

There is no SF candidate in Boyd Barret's constituency?

Chipboard · 06-02-2011 03:37AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Gerry has been on the run and been interred, ancient history of course, but point is he is well used to keeping secret as are many of the older members of the party.

No he hasn't been interred, he has been interned.

Do you know what interned means? It means he has been imprisoned without trial. Are you saying that if someone throws you in jail without trial it is a blemish on your character. Do you think maybe that if they have to resort to internment, maybe it is because they had to put the person away for political reasons i.e. because a trial would not have resulted in a conviction.

They use of internment is one of the biggest indictments of the British Government, and God knows there are many.

Its no wonder that FF keep getting voted in with the extensive knowledge of history we have among us.

oldyouth · 06-02-2011 10:08AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

God might forgive you but the majority of people in Ireland wouldn't be able to forgive you! :eek:

Sinn Fein a much better alternative. Can't you find it in your heart to reconsider and give the boys in green, white and orange at least a number three?

Never

oldyouth · 06-02-2011 10:16AM

Chipboard wrote: »

You don't state the reason for your objection to Sinn Fein so I am going to address two popularly held reasons which may be relevant;

You are taking exception to Sinn Fein because of its roots in the Republican movement.

If you knew anything you'd know that all over the world there are Governments who came to power through armed struggle - governments who freed their people from oppression. Its easy to be an armchair critic but if you lived in the North you would have an entirely different perspective.

You think that Sinn Fein doesn't have the experience or that their policies don't make sense.

Fianna Fail have been in power for 20 of the last 23 years and they have succeeded in destroying the Irish economy. How could you possibly argue that Sinn Fein are worse than Fianna Fail. What could possibly happen under Sinn Fein that would be worse than the events of the last 5 years?

Don't EVER presume to know why I would never vote for Sinn Fein. I just stated my point and you go and make up a question and answer section as if it is coming from me. Apologise and delete your post please.

johnmcdnl · 06-02-2011 10:25AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

LOL

You put an X on the Westminster elections.

Elections down here are PR and you've just spoiled your vote

if you put an X on your vote it still counts

it's for people who aren't able to write so they can vote for their first preference

they don't get a second vote though but if he's only voting for one person well it'll work :cool:

Chipboard · 06-02-2011 12:35PM

oldyouth wrote: »

Don't EVER presume to know why I would never vote for Sinn Fein. I just stated my point and you go and make up a question and answer section as if it is coming from me. Apologise and delete your post please.

More of the brave talk on boards.ie. Read the post again - I didn't put words in your mouth - I outlined two common arguments.

I'm not retracting anything.

caseyann · 06-02-2011 02:29PM

Permabear wrote: »

This post had been deleted.

Who are the economic illiterates?Would that be the people who voted for the lisbon thinking they were doing the smart thing and put fianna fail in power over and over again,even though the writing was on the wall of failure and Sinn Féin were one of the ones warning?And now who are the people who are screaming out against fianna fail.
Dont have to be an economic wiz master to know all the others are out to make the rich happy and EU and not the Irish public.

Chucky the tree · 06-02-2011 03:15PM

The best thing about Sinn Feinn supporters is their defence of their inept and unworkable by saying at least they aren't as bad as Fianna Fail. It's like hiring Garry Glitter to mind your kids and then defending by saying "Well at least I didn't hire Ian Huntley".

oldyouth · 06-02-2011 03:31PM

Chipboard wrote: »

More of the brave talk on boards.ie. Read the post again - I didn't put words in your mouth - I outlined two common arguments.

I'm not retracting anything.

If it's not putting words in my mouth by starting the sentences with 'You are taking exception'............... and 'You think Sinn Fein'......, then what is?

If you don't see the need to apologise, I can't make you.

takun · 06-02-2011 03:35PM

A small part of me would love to see Sinn Fein in a coalition with FG this time round.

There are a lot of people - younger people especially - out there who listen to what Sinn Fein say and like what they hear. Not surprising - although completely divorced from reality, it is populist talk and it certainly differentiates them from other parties, young voters are utterly turned off by the old parties and were not around to see and experience Sinn Fein as the IRA.

I think the next government is being handed such a poisoned chalice, and in reality has so little influence over our near future, that no matter who they are it is going to be an impossible task and will pretty much inevitably end with us going into an election once again led by a deeply unpopular government. It's only after that election we might, just might, see a government that again has the possibility of actually governing, and not being dictated to by our economic masters.

At that point we are (in my dream at least) left with a discredited FG, a Sinn Fein once again ignored by all but extreme republicans, a FF who are still associated with having caused the whole sorry mess in the first place, and maybe, just maybe, a chance at last of a genuine change in Irish politics.

So maybe I would throw a later preference at Sinn Fein, but only in the hope that in so doing I was contributing to their eventual demise.

bonkey · 06-02-2011 03:47PM

oldyouth wrote: »

Don't EVER presume to know why I would never vote for Sinn Fein. I just stated my point and you go and make up a question and answer section as if it is coming from me. Apologise and delete your post please.

Please don't presume to tell other users what to do. If you have an objection to a post, report it, and discuss it with the mods via PM if necessary.

For the record, the post in question does not put words in your mouth.

Rather, it explicitly states that you do not provide your reasons, and in the absence of same will address reasons which might be relevant.

If you still have an objection to this, the PM me. The topic is not for further discussion on this thread.

Pete_Cavan · 06-02-2011 04:45PM

caseyann wrote: »

Who are the economic illiterates?Would that be the people who voted for the lisbon thinking they were doing the smart thing and put fianna fail in power over and over again,even though the writing was on the wall of failure and Sinn Féin were one of the ones warning?And now who are the people who are screaming out against fianna fail.
Dont have to be an economic wiz master to know all the others are out to make the rich happy and EU and not the Irish public.

You dont have to be a wiz in any field to know that if you spend all our reserves (National Pension Reserve Fund) paying for your budget deficit in year one, then you dont have that money available to pay for a stimulus package, and you certainly dont have it available to us the money for its primary function, ie. pay pensions. Yet SFs plans are to use the NPRF to pay for everything, the fact that their is not enough in it for the first thing doesnt seem to matter to them.

You dont have to be a wiz to know that if you tell the IMF to piss off with their money and default on our loans, the same people you refused to pay back and who lost billions because of you are not going to give you more money 12 months later.

SFs policy can not work and they are economically illiterate. SF will not be in government whatever happens. They know this themselves and so can make all these unrealistic promises safe in the knowledge they wont have to implement any of it.

caseyann · 06-02-2011 04:56PM

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

You dont have to be a wiz in any field to know that if you spend all our reserves (National Pension Reserve Fund) paying for your budget deficit in year one, then you dont have that money available to pay for a stimulus package, and you certainly dont have it available to us the money for its primary function, ie. pay pensions. Yet SFs plans are to use the NPRF to pay for everything, the fact that their is not enough in it for the first thing doesnt seem to matter to them.

You dont have to be a wiz to know that if you tell the IMF to piss off with their money and default on our loans, the same people you refused to pay back and who lost billions because of you are not going to give you more money 12 months later.

SFs policy can not work and they are economically illiterate. SF will not be in government whatever happens. They know this themselves and so can make all these unrealistic promises safe in the knowledge they wont have to implement any of it.

You hope.;)

Rafa1977 · 06-02-2011 07:57PM

I was gonna vote SF but would be unlikely now as they are not in favour of abloshing the Seanad, a pay cut for those useless clowns isnt good enough.

Jim236 · 06-02-2011 08:28PM

Rafa1977 wrote: »

I was gonna vote SF but would be unlikely now as they are not in favour of abloshing the Seanad, a pay cut for those useless clowns isnt good enough.

They're in favour of abolishing the Seanad in its current form which I assume means reducing its size and making it fully electable - http://www.sinnfein.ie/sinn-fein-priorities-for-the-next-dail

ankasamun · 06-02-2011 10:20PM

Ruadhán Mac Aodháin Sinn Fein posters vandalised in Rathmines. Someone posted anti-Sinn Fein slogans across the front of them

SEVERA · 06-02-2011 10:41PM

vote sinn fein.I would if i could but i cant, no candidate for sinn fein in south kerry. but i implore anyone that has a sinn fein candidate to give them there no1 vote they are the only party who would bring about radical change and give the people of Ireland hope, fg/ lab will do nothing as i have already outlined in the SOUTH KERRY thread. please give sinn fein the chance we have nothing to lose were already broke,rudderless,corrupt and nearly half a million unemployed! Its a no brainer

:rolleyes:

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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