anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

gerry the green baron · 05-02-2011 09:50PM

Will Louth welcome Gerry with open arms ? Maybe locked and loaded ? Will this parachuting in of someone who is as ignorant of economics as Mary Lou really be bought by the electorate ? Probably more than likely they've been sending Arthur Morgan up to the Dail for years.

zig · 05-02-2011 09:55PM

gerry the green baron wrote: »

Will Louth welcome Gerry with open arms ? Maybe locked and loaded ? Will this parachuting in of someone who is as ignorant of economics as Mary Lou really be bought by the electorate ? Probably more than likely they've been sending Arthur Morgan up to the Dail for years.

I wish we could cut out this 'ignorant of economics' line. They are ALL ignorant of economics, have you not seen the absolute insane decisions FF have been making the past few years???
That argument just simply does not cut it!

LordSutch · 05-02-2011 09:59PM

zig wrote: »

, but id really love to see a Lab/SF alliance.

But you won't, Sinn Fein will be lucky to come away with five seats, Labour won't go near them, Fianna Fail wouldn't touch them, and Fine Gael wouldn't even look at them (as coalition partners)! Fine Gael/Labour coalition the probable outcome later this month, and Sinn Fein supporters can dream on for another few years

SafeSurfer · 05-02-2011 10:10PM

sharkie66 wrote: »

SafeSurfer

We all know why you will not vote for SF at this stage and anything else you say is more information than we need to be perfectly honest!

My point is that more information is needed. More questions need to be asked of Mr. Adams in relation to the issues I have raised.

How can we have "more information than we need" when seeking the truth?

My point is that the information you are providing is very very dodgy and as you haven't once supplied us here with CREDIBLE evidence maybe you might be better off on the other thread related to SF bashing.

Regarding the title of the thread i.e. 'anyone here going to vote for Sinn Fein...' My point is that you have stated your case and we are all fine with it but the constant SF bashing is tedious because you keep stating unsupported hearsay!

Please supply the credible evidence for all your assertions and put the rest of us out of misery...thanks.

Sharkie66 just think about this. If the articles I have linked to in the anti Sinn Fein press as you call it are unfounded and unsubstantiated, Gerry Adams is in an ideal position to sue them for libel.

I can think of no worse libel than the cover up of the incestuous rape of a child.

He could donate his libel award to a cause such as the Rape Crisis Centre or One in Four Foundation.

It would vindicate the leader of Sinn Fein and dispel any doubts about his integrity and would also teach the vindictive anti Sinn Fein press a lesson just like Maurice Quinlivan did over the Will O' Dea article.

Will this happen or is there something to hide?

gerry the green baron · 05-02-2011 10:16PM

Agree with lordsutch,no one will touch SF.I imagine it will be one if not 2 generations before they're considered by the vast majority.I feel their vote has maxed out.

thetonynator · 05-02-2011 10:33PM

fuked wrote: »

I feel that SF couldn't do any worse than what has already been done to our lovely country Ireland!!! As for FF and not forgetting the Greens... Well they have done more that the British have in 700 years. They destroyed it!

FG, Labour, FF, Greens, Independents, the defunked PD's have all contributed to this, as they have all been in power in some way over the years. If it weren't for such a party like SF, who might I add were kept out of the policitical arena for years. And don't forget, all the parties have blood on their hands show how or other. So, if anyone wants to know something or have action taken, just go to your local SF councilor / TD and you will get both a reply and action taken.

I guess its all over now, bar the shouting, and I bet David Camoron is rubbing his has with glee.

What you mean is, all the parties have DIRT on their hands, Sinn Fein have BLOOD on their hands.

Please point out the green parties affiliations with a terrorist organisation. Or any of the other parties for that matter.

sharkie66 · 05-02-2011 11:12PM

LordSutch wrote: »

I think you'll find they built it!

And Sinn Fein will wreck it. if they ever get in, although that's not going to be anytime soon

Sutch,
You are having a laugh. I suspect you still have a lot of your old PD pro Brit neo liberal sentiments and you are entitled to believe what you want to!

There is another thread on boards.ie called 'why I won't vote for SF' so maybe you might be better off there with your feeling towards Sinn Fein as it is blantantly clear you will not be voting for SF anytime in the near future!

It is easy for you here to find those who do intend to vote for SF and then continue to antagonize them for your amusement. Surely you could direct your energy and vitriol in the correct arena rather than antagonize us all here?

To suggest that Sinn Fein will wreck the country is a laugh. It is already Wrecked and you will find that SF had nothing to do with it!:eek:

Some of your buddies did it and now want the rest of us to cough up and pay for their criminal actions. If I were a FF/PD/FG supporter I would hang my head in shame at what those parties let happen to our country. Sutch and more like you here all harp on about what SF allegedly did in their past but conveniently ignore what the so called mainstream parties have done to all of us! God help any of them who dare to darken my doorstep asking me for a vote. :eek:

I am voting Sinn Fein because all the so called Mainstream parties have nothing to offer me regarding sticking it to the EU/IMF. I am prepared to give SF the benefit of the doubt regarding the economy as they have some good ideas e.g the ten point plan for job creation to name one. They can't do any worse that the last crowd! I urge all to vote according to their conscience and give Sinn Fein a vote.:)

thetonynator · 05-02-2011 11:20PM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Sutch,
You are having a laugh. I suspect you still have a lot of your old PD pro Brit neo liberal sentiments and you are entitled to believe what you want to!

There is another thread on boards.ie called 'why I won't vote for SF' so maybe you might be better off there with your feeling towards Sinn Fein as it is blantantly clear you will not be voting for SF anytime in the near future!

It is easy for you here to find those who do intend to vote for SF and then continue to antagonize them for your amusement. Surely you could direct your energy and vitriol in the correct arena rather than antagonize us all here?

To suggest that Sinn Fein will wreck the country is a laugh. It is already Wrecked and you will find that SF had nothing to do with it!:eek:

Some of your buddies did it and now want the rest of us to cough up and pay for their criminal actions. If I were a FF/PD/FG supporter I would hang my head in shame at what those parties let happen to our country. Sutch and more like you here all harp on about what SF allegedly did in their past but conveniently ignore what the so called mainstream parties have done to all of us! God help any of them who dare to darken my doorstep asking me for a vote. :eek:

I am voting Sinn Fein because all the so called Mainstream parties have nothing to offer me regarding sticking it to the EU/IMF. I am prepared to give SF the benefit of the doubt regarding the economy as they have some good ideas e.g the ten point plan for job creation to name one. They can't do any worse that the last crowd! I urge all to vote according to their conscience and give Sinn Fein a vote.:)

When voting with your conscience, remember the troubles and everything the IRA did. I think you'll find SF aren't the right choice then.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 05-02-2011 11:23PM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Sutch,
You are having a laugh. I suspect you still have a lot of your old PD pro Brit neo liberal sentiments and you are entitled to believe what you want to!

There is another thread on boards.ie called 'why I won't vote for SF' so maybe you might be better off there with your feeling towards Sinn Fein as it is blantantly clear you will not be voting for SF anytime in the near future!

It is easy for you here to find those who do intend to vote for SF and then continue to antagonize them for your amusement. Surely you could direct your energy and vitriol in the correct arena rather than antagonize us all here?

To suggest that Sinn Fein will wreck the country is a laugh. It is already Wrecked and you will find that SF had nothing to do with it!:eek:

Some of your buddies did it and now want the rest of us to cough up and pay for their criminal actions. If I were a FF/PD/FG supporter I would hang my head in shame at what those parties let happen to our country. Sutch and more like you here all harp on about what SF allegedly did in their past but conveniently ignore what the so called mainstream parties have done to all of us! God help any of them who dare to darken my doorstep asking me for a vote. :eek:

I am voting Sinn Fein because all the so called Mainstream parties have nothing to offer me regarding sticking it to the EU/IMF. I am prepared to give SF the benefit of the doubt regarding the economy as they have some good ideas e.g the ten point plan for job creation to name one. They can't do any worse that the last crowd! I urge all to vote according to their conscience and give Sinn Fein a vote.:)

never heard such bull in all my life,
SF are no way near any good too help this country out, doesn't take much too see that by there policy's,which everyone including the media find big faults with,Maybe if they made solutions that would help rather than what they are offering,There biggest problem outside there policy's,no experience and when you listen too them when they telling you what they do,you can see straight away ,its no way going too work,if they where too get in,we be better off with no government as wouldn't be a difference

oldyouth · 05-02-2011 11:50PM

As long as I can draw breath and reach a ballot box, I'll never, ever, vote for Sinn Fein. God forgive me for saying this, but I'd rather have Brian Cowen declared life Taoiseach than have one of those people represent me.

sharkie66 · 05-02-2011 11:59PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Sharkie66 just think about this. If the articles I have linked to in the anti Sinn Fein press as you call it are unfounded and unsubstantiated, Gerry Adams is in an ideal position to sue them for libel.

I can think of no worse libel than the cover up of the incestuous rape of a child.

He could donate his libel award to a cause such as the Rape Crisis Centre or One in Four Foundation.

It would vindicate the leader of Sinn Fein and dispel any doubts about his integrity and would also teach the vindictive anti Sinn Fein press a lesson just like Maurice Quinlivan did over the Will O' Dea article.

Will this happen or is there something to hide?

Surfer,

Now that you have your thinking cap on. Have you ever for one moment thought about what you are asking Mr Adams to do? Go to court and start a long legal process to defend his good name.

The same name which for the last 35 years has been attacked non-stop by the pro Brit media in this country. What chance would he have for a fair legal process? I think you know the answer and that is your strength and you are right to play to it but it still doesn't make any of the HEARSAY true. If you tell the lie long enough......!

Another factor is involved here if Gerry was ever to take you up on your suggestion then his immediate and extended family would come under the most horrible stress and duress. Sexual abuse in one's family is difficult enough to face within the family arena even with support of the social services and counsellors. Can you imagine what would happen to the family in the glare of publicity which would surround the case? Then again I am sure you have the best intentions on your mind for the family when you continue to spout your vitriol on this thread!:eek: Gerry Adams cannot be held responsible for his brother's actions and you know that!:eek:

...would also teach the vindictive anti Sinn Fein press a lesson.

Regarding your assertion above I am delighted we agree about the Irish Independent Newspaper group. I knew you would come round to the voice of reason.:D

Beir bua!

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 12:03AM

thetonynator wrote: »

When voting with your conscience, remember the troubles and everything the IRA did. I think you'll find SF aren't the right choice then.

Good man nator,

Now could you stick to the thread and let us know if you are going to vote for Sinn Fein or not, thanks. :rolleyes:

Ban Ki Moon · 06-02-2011 12:13AM

I will be giving Brian Stanley my No. 1 here in Laois

mccoist · 06-02-2011 12:19AM

i will be voting for s morris in nth tipp

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 12:26AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

never heard such bull in all my life,
SF are no way near any good too help this country out, doesn't take much too see that by there policy's,which everyone including the media find big faults with,Maybe if they made solutions that would help rather than what they are offering,There biggest problem outside there policy's,no experience and when you listen too them when they telling you what they do,you can see straight away ,its no way going too work,if they where too get in,we be better off with no government as wouldn't be a difference

Knighty,

Have a look at this and tell me if SF don't have the thousands of unemployed in this country as a priority in their plan to improve the lot of the downtrodden in our very, very unequal society. By the way did you go by the nickname "Bertie" in a different thread a while back?

I am voting Sinn Fein because it is the only party in the country i.e 32 counties to actively aim for a United Ireland and sick it to the EU/IMF regarding the criminal dumping of private debt by w...ker bankers on to the shoulders of Irish people.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sf-jobs-plan-is-well-worked-out-and-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-144204.html

goodgirl7279 · 06-02-2011 12:31AM

I will be voting for SF. I believe they will put the ordinary person before banks, bondholder and builders. I feel FG and Labour wont bring any change. I agree that british, french and german bondholders should be burned. Why should I pay for them! F that!

thetonynator · 06-02-2011 12:34AM

thetonynator wrote: »

They have policies - I think you will find every political party has policies!

As for voting for them - I can't imagine why anyone would want to vote for a party that has such strong ties with a terrorist organisation.

They have two candidates in Carlow-Kilkenny, with a 16% support overall. (Opinion poll in Kilkenny people on wednesday). If the transfers work out right for them they might take a seat.

thetonynator wrote: »

Not much good looking after the poor and jobless if they haven't got a cent to give to them because no one will loan to us and because their only financial policy is to spend the pension reserve fund, and default on our debt.

thetonynator wrote: »

What you mean is, all the parties have DIRT on their hands, Sinn Fein have BLOOD on their hands.

Please point out the green parties affiliations with a terrorist organisation. Or any of the other parties for that matter.

thetonynator wrote: »

When voting with your conscience, remember the troubles and everything the IRA did. I think you'll find SF aren't the right choice then.

sharkie66 wrote: »

Good man nator,

Now could you stick to the thread and let us know if you are going to vote for Sinn Fein or not, thanks. :rolleyes:

As you can see above, i've made my views clear. this is a discussion forum, so while i have made my views clear it does not mean i can't be invloved in the thread, in the same way that you are involved in the thread.

Oh and btw,seeing as you're not a mod, your post is far more off topic than mine was. Just because there are users presenting reasons not to vote for SF, which you clearly don't like, doesn't mean you can control the discussion.

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 12:36AM

oldyouth wrote: »

As long as I can draw breath and reach a ballot box, I'll never, ever, vote for Sinn Fein. God forgive me for saying this, but I'd rather have Brian Cowen declared life Taoiseach than have one of those people represent me.

God might forgive you but the majority of people in Ireland wouldn't be able to forgive you! :eek:

Sinn Fein a much better alternative. Can't you find it in your heart to reconsider and give the boys in green, white and orange at least a number three?

FoxT · 06-02-2011 12:37AM

Xclusiv Barber wrote: »

The vast majority of voters are over 40yrs old. Yes? Of that, the vast majority of those will never vote SF. They will hit much bigger numbers but will be out voted at the older majority end of electorate. However, in 10-15 yrs time.....?

in 15 years time, anybody aged 25 today will be over 40. Heh.Sf are deservedly fC*ked:D

thetonynator · 06-02-2011 12:38AM

zig wrote: »

I wish we could cut out this 'ignorant of economics' line. They are ALL ignorant of economics, have you not seen the absolute insane decisions FF have been making the past few years???
That argument just simply does not cut it!

I think most of them would at least know the VAT rate, and would not pontificate about child benefit rates being cut without knowing what the rate actually was.

Average_Joe · 06-02-2011 12:52AM

I will defo vote sinn fein. Labour and FG are the same as those basterds FF. SF have the best ideas. Why should we pay back those pr1cks from europe? They caused this mess. They forced us to vote yes to Lisbon. They sent those cnuts from the imf. Fcuk europe we're better off on our own!

sharkie66 · 06-02-2011 12:56AM

thetonynator wrote: »

As you can see above, i've made my views clear. this is a discussion forum, so while i have made my views clear it does not mean i can't be invloved in the thread, in the same way that you are involved in the thread.

Oh and btw,seeing as you're not a mod, your post is far more off topic than mine was. Just because there are users presenting reasons not to vote for SF, which you clearly don't like, doesn't mean you can control the discussion.

Ah Nator you are right. I didn't see all your other posts. I guess I will have to be more careful in the future.

But now that you have so clearly stated your decision and reasons for not voting for Sinn Fein do you really think it is necessary to continue to harp on about why you won't vote for Sinn Fein'?

I suppose what I am hinting at is that there is another thread here on boards.ie for all those who want to put forward their reasons for 'Why I am not voting for Sinn Fein'.

Strangely enough it goes by the name 'Why I am not voting for Sinn Fein' and you will find many posters who are venting their vitriol for Sinn Fein in that thread.

I think a lot of the anti SF brigade like hunting down fellow posters who declare their support or simply answer this thread's question regarding voting for Sinn Fein.

When you and others like you find a person's preference you go on the attack with hearsay and unnecessary history lessons trying to antagonize those very people who simply want to bring about change to this very, very sick country.

It is this reason I ask you and your kind to please consider moving to the other thread and vent whatever anger you have in that arena. In this way peace and harmony will reign and we can all agree to disagree on all of our held beliefs.

Peace man:) Some of us have moved on you know!

thetonynator · 06-02-2011 12:58AM

Average_Joe wrote: »

I will defo vote sinn fein. Labour and FG are the same as those basterds FF. SF have the best ideas. Why should we pay back those pr1cks from europe? They caused this mess. They forced us to vote yes to Lisbon. They sent those cnuts from the imf. Fcuk europe we're better off on our own!

There is so much wrong witht this post i just dont know where to start!

1. Those ''pr1cks'' from Europe are giving us a loan. Admittedly, the interest is pretty steep, but we need the money and have no other way of getting it.

2. Lisbon has nothing to do with this.

3. The IMF come in to any country which looks like defaulting on its sovereign debt.

4. Europe has given us billions over the years, is the only reason that we have so many multinationals here, and despite some issues which we could do without, we are currently far better off in europe than on our own. The international markets won't lend to us, and we don't have the money to support ourselves.

thetonynator · 06-02-2011 01:01AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

But now that you have so clearly stated your decision and reasons for not voting for Sinn Fein do you really think it is necessary to continue to harp on about why you won't vote for Sinn Fein'?

Well you've clearly stated your reasons for voting for sinn fein, it hasn't stopped you posting here. Especially when this thread is called ''anyone here going to vote for sinn fein?'' not ''why you should vote for sinn fein''.

And quit all the peace and harmony shít. No ones fooled.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 06-02-2011 01:15AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Knighty,

Have a look at this and tell me if SF don't have the thousands of unemployed in this country as a priority in their plan to improve the lot of the downtrodden in our very, very unequal society. By the way did you go by the nickname "Bertie" in a different thread a while back?

I am voting Sinn Fein because it is the only party in the country i.e 32 counties to actively aim for a United Ireland and sick it to the EU/IMF regarding the criminal dumping of private debt by w...ker bankers on to the shoulders of Irish people.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sf-jobs-plan-is-well-worked-out-and-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-144204.html

got wrong guy ,nice try doe
so hear we go again a united ireland crap,that says it all there
not going too happen weather i or others do or dont want it,move on from that old stuff
SF policies wont work,only wreck the country more cripple it,only people with cop on can see this,only reason people will vote SF ,is not too give vote too others,not SF policies period, only people who support SF dont see this,before you jump on your high horse, i don't support anyone yet,will wait till close too time,only way this country will get sorted is all party's come together too fix it ,otherwise,will take over 10 years or more
SF wont do it ,thats a fact,theres mores holes in SF policies that you could dry rice with there policies,,I dont see any difference also with FF ,FG or labour ,politics needs too change in this country and Im not talking SF style
,

mccoist · 06-02-2011 01:26AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

never heard such bull in all my life,
SF are no way near any good too help this country out, doesn't take much too see that by there policy's,which everyone including the media find big faults with,Maybe if they made solutions that would help rather than what they are offering,There biggest problem outside there policy's,no experience and when you listen too them when they telling you what they do,you can see straight away ,its no way going too work,if they where too get in,we be better off with no government as wouldn't be a difference

This reply is typical of the narrow minded boorish attitude FF have evolved to use to slate others,FF have run this country in a fashion that is criminal, and got well paid for it. Such high and mighty ignorance is astonishing, finding faults with policies what rubbish,
Me fein martin is just so full of good advice at present such bull****
makes me puke grow up move over and let some real people sort out the pile of rubbish you will be leaving behind

KELTICKNIGHTT · 06-02-2011 01:28AM

mccoist wrote: »

This reply is typical of the narrow minded boorish attitude FF have evolved to use to slate others,FF have run this country in a fashion that is criminal, and got well paid for it. Such high and mighty ignorance is astonishing, finding faults with policies what rubbish,
Me fein martin is just so full of good advice at present such bull****
makes me puke grow up move over and let some real people sort out the pile of rubbish you will be leaving behind

FG ARE SAME AS FF, FACT,just more rubbish from fg supporter ,same rubbish as from FF and labour
you mean like enda kenny ,hes a real man alright,afraid too go on a talk show,sure,dont make me laugh :-)

barrackali · 06-02-2011 01:32AM

Average_Joe wrote: »

I will defo vote sinn fein. Labour and FG are the same as those basterds FF. SF have the best ideas. Why should we pay back those pr1cks from europe? They caused this mess. They forced us to vote yes to Lisbon. They sent those cnuts from the imf. Fcuk europe we're better off on our own!

Your grasp of reality is decidedly below-average.....we would be totally screw*d without help from our EU partners.....SF haven't a bulls notion about how to get us out of this economic mess. This disaster was caused by FF, bankers and greedy property speculators...not the EU!

mccoist · 06-02-2011 01:40AM

This election is really about third place who will lead the opposition in the next coming dail
FG and LABOUR will be the next goverment
The best party to keep them honest is a strong SF
To make FF the third party is just more of the same old shenanigans we have had for the last 90 odd years
Lets have a real goverment not a bunch of old cronies and sliveens just wasting our lives selling us bull
Change is good you know

barrackali · 06-02-2011 01:42AM

mccoist wrote: »

This election is really about third place who will lead the opposition in the next coming dail
FG and LABOUR will be the next goverment
The best party to keep them honest is a strong SF
To make FF the third party is just more of the same old shenanigans we have had for the last 90 odd years
Lets have a real goverment not a bunch of old cronies and sliveens just wasting our lives selling us bull
Change is good you know

Sure get rid of FF, but there should be no place for the retarded policies of SF.

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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