RTE2 in 1080i

homer911 · 30-01-2011 04:24PM

Tonio wrote: »

Wonder if the new HD equipment will be in place for the 6 nations or the resumption of the champions league next month. Would be nice!

Well the BBC were able to show Lansdowne Rd matches in HD, so I dont see why RTE cant now..

OldRio · 31-01-2011 12:55PM

Well one would hope RTE show the six nations in HD.
The feeds coming in from most of the other countries will be in HD.

An Tarbh · 31-01-2011 02:20PM

OldRio wrote: »

Well one would hope RTE show the six nations in HD.
The feeds coming in from most of the other countries will be in HD.

and the feed that RTÉ as host broadcaster send abroad will also be HD (it was last year), it's just unlikely that we'll get it in native HD in Ireland.

10000maniacs · 31-01-2011 04:18PM

This is just typical. They have everything in place, yet they don't bother just for the sake of not bothering. Sums up Irish semi state corporate governance for the last 30 years.

watty · 31-01-2011 05:00PM

RTE's HD playout may not be installed configured yet or else 4:3 content on RTE2 would be correct.

Minstrel27 · 01-02-2011 02:07PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

This is just typical. They have everything in place, yet they don't bother just for the sake of not bothering. Sums up Irish semi state corporate governance for the last 30 years.

I am sure it's not as simple as that.

thorbarry · 01-02-2011 02:21PM

how do i avail of this RTE HD? I'm with UPC but im guessing you need something more?

watty · 01-02-2011 02:35PM

An Aerial and Irish Digital compatible TV or Setbox. No Subscription
www.saortv.info explains everything.

radiospan · 01-02-2011 10:33PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

This is just typical. They have everything in place, yet they don't bother just for the sake of not bothering. Sums up Irish semi state corporate governance for the last 30 years.

I don't think they have everything in place. I can't remember if anyone confirmed that they had the HD playout system installed yet?

10000maniacs · 02-02-2011 11:15AM

plazzTT wrote: »

I don't think they have everything in place. I can't remember if anyone confirmed that they had the HD playout system installed yet?

Ok, but they made the decision to use MPEG4 2 year ago. They had ample time to install the HD playout system.
In the grand scheme of things, this piece of equipment is by no means expensive, one HD camera would cost more.

An Tarbh · 03-02-2011 08:30AM

got an email from RTÉ saying they won't be showing the 6 Nations in full HD, hardly surprising but extremely disappointing nonetheless.

watty · 03-02-2011 09:31AM

MPEG4 is separate to HD. They made decision to go for MPEG4 for SD maybe nearly 4 years ago. We don't know when they decided to have part time HD. We only know when they announced it.

glimmerman123 · 03-02-2011 02:21PM

Now that Eamon Ryan has stepped down as minister for communications when will we know if the proposed channel line up for Saorview will be passed? The reason i ask is RTE 2 lite HD will be part of the line up and i was wondering if RTE want to broadcast in HD does this have to be passed by the department of communications? Maybe a silly question.

Bullseye1 · 03-02-2011 02:26PM

Have RTE confirmed they will be broadcasting their HD channels on Sky?

Johnmb · 03-02-2011 02:34PM

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Have RTE confirmed they will be broadcasting their HD channels on Sky?

No, and it's likely to happen, unless and until Sky have replaced most of their boxes with HD ones. Neither RTE nor Sky would be willing to pay for carrying two versions of an RTE channel as would need to be the case as long as such large numbers of Sky boxes are not capable of receiving a HD channel.

Bullseye1 · 03-02-2011 02:35PM

Johnmb wrote: »

No, and it's likely to happen, unless and until Sky have replaced most of their boxes with HD ones. Neither RTE nor Sky would be willing to pay for carrying two versions of an RTE channel as would need to be the case as long as such large numbers of Sky boxes are not capable of receiving a HD channel.

It would seem strange that Sky would not offer their HD subscribers here in Ireland RTE channels in HD when they are available.

Johnmb · 03-02-2011 02:48PM

Bullseye1 wrote: »

It would seem strange that Sky would not offer their HD subscribers here in Ireland RTE channels in HD when they are available.

I admire your optimism!

They already do that now. We don't get the ITV HD (or even the basic ITV channels for that matter), or Channel 4HD. Do we get BBC1HD? Admittedly, my information is a bit out of date as I haven't been a Sky subscriber since last August, but not providing Irish customers with basic channels that are already carried on the platform is nothing new for Sky, so not adding a new channel to the platform specifically for Irish viewers would be well within normal practice for them.

glimmerman123 · 03-02-2011 02:49PM

Bullseye1 wrote: »

It would seem strange that Sky would not offer their HD subscribers here in Ireland RTE channels in HD when they are available.

It's not up to Sky it's up to RTE if they want to put their channels on the Sky platform. I think RTE said they hope to broadcast their new channels on all platforms in the future i take it this includes Sky.

Bullseye1 · 03-02-2011 02:52PM

Johnmb wrote: »

I admire your optimism!
They already do that now. We don't get the ITV HD (or even the basic ITV channels for that matter), or Channel 4HD. Do we get BBC1HD? Admittedly, my information is a bit out of date as I haven't been a Sky subscriber since last August, but not providing Irish customers with basic channels that are already carried on the platform is nothing new for Sky, so not adding a new channel to the platform specifically for Irish viewers would be well within normal practice for them.

But those are English channels. At least they we can get those by tuning in ourselves.

Bullseye1 · 03-02-2011 02:52PM

glimmerman123 wrote: »

It's not up to Sky it's up to RTE if they want to put their channels on the Sky platform. I think RTE said they hope to broadcast their new channels on all platforms in the future i take it this includes Sky.

Cheers.

The Cush · 03-02-2011 04:05PM

glimmerman123 wrote: »

It's not up to Sky it's up to RTE if they want to put their channels on the Sky platform. I think RTE said they hope to broadcast their new channels on all platforms in the future i take it this includes Sky.

As per the Broadcasting Act RTÉ "must-offer" its channels to all platforms thereafter it'll be up to Sky if they wish to carry them.

RTÉ’s intention is to make these channels / services available on digital terrestrial television and, under the “must carry” and “must offer” provisions of section 77 of the Act, it is intended that these channels / services will be carried, where possible, on digital satellite, cable and IPTV.
...
RTÉ wishes to make these five TV channels/services available on as many digital television platforms as is feasible. Under the provisions of section 77 of the Act, these are expected to include cable, IPTV (as technology allows) and digital satellite, subject to the agreement of fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory terms.

Subject to the approval of the Minister, all five television channels/services will be available on Saorview and Saorsat from Q2 2011. In keeping with the Broadcasting Act 2009, the channels/services will be offered to all digital platforms following a short technical and market testing period.

Johnmb · 03-02-2011 04:10PM

The Cush wrote: »

As per the Broadcasting Act RTÉ "must-offer" its channels to all platforms thereafter it'll be up to Sky if they wish to carry them.

They already do this. RTE 2HD is not a different channel to RTE 2, it's just the quality of the picture that differs. RTE 2 is already offered, and carried, by Sky. There is currently no requirement for RTE or Sky to add RTE 2HD, or to replace the existing RTE 2 broadcast with the HD version (whenever it is actually released).

mike65 · 03-02-2011 04:39PM

Does anyone know when softvison on the other channels will be dealt with? I'm not talking HD, just decent SD.

The Cush · 03-02-2011 06:14PM

Johnmb wrote: »

There is currently no requirement for RTE or Sky to add RTE 2HD, or to replace the existing RTE 2 broadcast with the HD version (whenever it is actually released).

There is a Broadcasting Act requirement on RTÉ to offer it to Sky (and others) when it becomes available, no requirement on Sky to carry it. The existing RTÉ 2 SD version cannot be replaced on Sky by the HD version, it would have to be carried as an additional channel for its Irish HD customers.

Johnmb · 03-02-2011 06:50PM

The Cush wrote: »

There is a Broadcasting Act requirement on RTÉ to offer it to Sky (and others) when it becomes available, no requirement on Sky to carry it. The existing RTÉ 2 SD version cannot be replaced on Sky by the HD version, it would have to be carried as an additional channel for its Irish HD customers.

Are you sure about that? I seriously doubt that the RTE2HD channel would be considered a separate channel from RTE2. The only difference is the picture (and possibly audio) quality, the programming is identical.

The Cush · 03-02-2011 07:01PM

Johnmb wrote: »

Are you sure about that?

Yes.

Johnmb · 03-02-2011 07:06PM

The Cush wrote: »

Yes.

So on what grounds do you think RTE 2HD would be classed as a separate channel to RTE 2?

The Cush · 03-02-2011 07:13PM

Johnmb wrote: »

So on what grounds do you think RTE 2HD would be classed as a separate channel to RTE 2?

The Sky standard or + receiver doesn't do HD, so the SD version is also required.

Johnmb · 03-02-2011 07:18PM

The Cush wrote: »

The Sky standard or + receiver doesn't do HD.

So? It also doesn't do DTT, yet nobody would ever claim that RTE 2 on Sky and RTE 2 on DTT are two separate channels. So why would they claim that RTE 2HD is a separate channel just because a Sky box can't receive it?

stephendevlin · 03-02-2011 07:21PM

Any idea what satellite they will be broadcasting from? Or are they already?

RTE2 in 1080i

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