Ivor Callely gets another 17,000.

Johnny Bitte · 31-01-2011 06:55PM

Sick of this ****, 17k for what?
Everyone was given out how he claimed using another address, no one said hold the **** on, why the **** should they be allowed claim so much in the first place!!!

Somoeone said fair ****s for knowing how to fiddle the system, clown.

Its not he's 17k, its ours.

PeterIanStaker · 31-01-2011 06:55PM

Sykk wrote: »

Should be shot with balls of his own shíte.

he should be hung with his own belt. wouldn't waste bullets, sh!t or rope on the cunt

neris · 31-01-2011 06:57PM

just proves the old boys club looking after themselves that is our elected reps. 17k is ridiculous amount to be awarded and just reflects how over paid and scheming these gob ****es are

Agricola · 31-01-2011 07:01PM

I remember looking at him in the Senate on TV, trying to pipe up with some off topic waffle and I thought to myself, Jesus that guy has some neck coming in there after whats come out about him. My father always said the most important thing you need to get ahead in life isnt education, its having a brass neck. How right he was.

sollar · 31-01-2011 07:11PM

Does Mr Callely have a government email address i want to pass on my best wishes to him

mikemac · 31-01-2011 07:16PM

sollar wrote: »

Does Mr Callely have a government email address i want to pass on my best wishes to him

Yes, and a ten second google search of the Irish seanad will get for you. You know this before posting this question.....
Or http://www.oireachtas.ie/

sollar · 31-01-2011 07:26PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Yes, and a ten second google search of the Irish seanad will get for you. You know this before posting this question.....
Or http://www.oireachtas.ie/

Good god you bring sanctimony to a whole new level but thanks all the same i'll drop old ivor an email.

Sticky_Fingers · 31-01-2011 07:48PM

I wonder does old Ivor have any criminal case to answer for, falsely claiming expenses is tantamount to theft non?

Conor Bourke · 31-01-2011 07:49PM

pow wow wrote: »

Yeah. I'll drive you.

I'm heading that way on Thurs, I'll give ye a lift

whoopdedoo · 31-01-2011 07:52PM

he's got some neck on him for a snake!!

niallers1 · 31-01-2011 07:55PM

Legally he's up 17k
Morally he's bankrupt! :mad:

messymess · 31-01-2011 07:55PM

So, as far as I can tell Ivor exploited a loophole in the expenses claims process that was perfectly valid to exploit, which a court validated, even though it's completely unethical and dishonest.

Maybe it's a stupid question but has anyone actually thought to change the circumstances under which expenses can be claimed?

The 17,000k is a mute point ... I'm concerned about the 80k he effectively hoodwinked us out of. He's not the only person at this either I'm sure.

flutered · 31-01-2011 08:05PM

almost a thousand a day not bad if one can get it, hopefully fg will get rid of the most costly retirement home in the world, then cut down on the number of tds.

mossyc123 · 31-01-2011 08:05PM

Generally, I believe most politicians on all levels are decent people trying to do there best for the common good.

This chancer is the exception to that.

The good news is he's up to his balls in negative equity on loads of properties around North Dublin.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/callelys-own-19-properties-after-decade-of-investments-2517544.html

That 17K is but a drop in the ocean to what he owes.

I sincerely hope he never gets to go on another fancy foreign holiday or gets to eat in a nice restaurant ever again.

The chances of that happening however are slim to none :mad:

sdanseo · 31-01-2011 08:08PM

Regardless of whether the man SHOULD morally be claiming the expenses he did, or whether he SHOULD have been suspended; the fact remains the law of the land says he was in the right. He's entitled to every cent back and very few people here can I'm sure claim that if they found they were entitled to more cash from the state that they wouldn't claim it themselves.

Personal opinion of him is that he's a twat, a chancer and should be paying every cent into the exchequer or a suitable charity. However, we don't always get what we want.

The court of public opinion is all well and good but ONLY if you're objective.

whoopdedoo · 31-01-2011 08:13PM

he should be plagued at each of his permeant addresses until he gives it all back imho!

Gunsfortoys · 31-01-2011 08:15PM

sdonn wrote: »

Regardless of whether the man SHOULD morally be claiming the expenses he did, or whether he SHOULD have been suspended; the fact remains the law of the land says he was in the right. He's entitled to every cent back and very few people here can I'm sure claim that if they found they were entitled to more cash from the state that they wouldn't claim it themselves.

Personal opinion of him is that he's a twat, a chancer and should be paying every cent into the exchequer or a suitable charity. However, we don't always get what we want.

The court of public opinion is all well and good but ONLY if you're objective.

Not really arguing on the laws side, just the absolute immorality of the guy. The post about him having property dealings made me smile though. Karma.

R0ot · 31-01-2011 08:22PM

Kasabian wrote: »

He is entitled.

They should have been more above board about the whole thing and rather than just suspending him outright slowly get him out the fair way and then he wouldn't have been thrown another €17,000.

Cheap Thrills! · 31-01-2011 08:49PM

When i heard this earlier I had to turn off the radio in pure disgust.

€17k for 20 days work.

Fcuking Womble. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad:

OperaticBug · 31-01-2011 09:44PM

What a prick, what part of working for the good of the people is that. We all know that he knows that he was scamming same as the rest of the plebs in the seanad. When they voted 2 or 3 years ago so they do not need to product receipts for their monthly expenses then we all know that they were just raping the system that created for themselves. We need to abolish the seanad and change our system of government in this country.

haydar · 31-01-2011 09:52PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Would you write it off if it was your 17k ?

I would have had the decency not to go lookin for it

Capt'n Midnight · 31-01-2011 10:01PM

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

I wonder does old Ivor have any criminal case to answer for, falsely claiming expenses is tantamount to theft non?

If you were to state such a thing look forward to explaining yourself in the High Court http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0131/lowrym.html

Mr Lowry alleges that Mr Smyth made false and defamatory remarks about him in an article in the Irish Independent last May and a month later on the Tonight with Vincent Browne programme on TV3.

Mr Lowry claims that the Irish Independent article inferred that he was a corrupt politician and that it was a false and malicious article.

He claims that on the TV3 programme, Mr Smyth made a comment that implied he was a thief.

Mr Smyth is standing over his comments, arguing that they were true and based on his honest opinion.

Our liable laws make it dangerous to express opinions

Also in the UK people have been jailed for doing this (if it's only legal because of a loophole in our law then it says an awful lot about our lawmakers)

Capt'n Midnight · 31-01-2011 10:02PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The courts found in his favour, of course he in entitled to compensation.

Forget for a minute its Ivor Callaly we're talking about and instead it's Joe that works in a factory. He gets suspended, pleads his case and is found innocent. Would anyone have any issues with his compensation? Laws apply to everyone, we cant just say "ah but he's a prick so he gets nothing".

If life teaches you nothing its that at all levels, being a prick seems to work out quite well for people.

Would Joe get €17,000 ?

manual_man · 31-01-2011 10:16PM

the sad **** is that i heard some goons on newstalk lauding Callely for vindicating himself

what a load of bo##ox

regardless of the law, the boy screwed us big time, he's got some brass, but some of the sh*t i've heard on newstalk lately is pure galling, sad i used to have alot of respect for that station, should be taken off the air now imo, there's some serious politicking going on in the background on that station

whiteonion · 31-01-2011 10:28PM

sdonn wrote: »

Regardless of whether the man SHOULD morally be claiming the expenses he did, or whether he SHOULD have been suspended; the fact remains the law of the land says he was in the right. He's entitled to every cent back and very few people here can I'm sure claim that if they found they were entitled to more cash from the state that they wouldn't claim it themselves.

Personal opinion of him is that he's a twat, a chancer and should be paying every cent into the exchequer or a suitable charity. However, we don't always get what we want.

The court of public opinion is all well and good but ONLY if you're objective.

The laws of the land are obviously not always right. In this case they are way wrong.

31-01-2011 10:49PM

mossyc123 wrote: »

Generally, I believe most politicians on all levels are decent people trying to do there best for the common good.

This chancer is the exception to that.

The good news is he's up to his balls in negative equity on loads of properties around North Dublin.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/callelys-own-19-properties-after-decade-of-investments-2517544.html

That 17K is but a drop in the ocean to what he owes.

I sincerely hope he never gets to go on another fancy foreign holiday or gets to eat in a nice restaurant ever again.

The chances of that happening however are slim to none :mad:

AIB lent it to him. What's the bets that all will be forgiven by them in a few years...

Absolute scumbag. Someone should look for a LOOPHOLE in the law that allows us to hang this fúcker from a lamppost outside his house. He's nothing more than a traitor to the people of this country.

panda100 · 31-01-2011 11:29PM

Does this mean that senators earn 17,000 for 20 days work??

That was my annual earnings when I used to work 50 hour weeks as a disability support worker.

Capt'n Midnight · 01-02-2011 12:37AM

panda100 wrote: »

Does this mean that senators earn 17,000 for 20 days work??

That was my annual earnings when I used to work 50 hour weeks as a disability support worker.

No they don't

and he got that money by NOT working

any one got any idea how much the costs were ???

Dionysus · 01-02-2011 01:21AM

phill106 wrote: »

he gets 17k for 20 days there? Fooooookkkk me, no wonder the country is broke.

This! This is the massive crime and once more proof of why Seanad Éireann is nothing but a leech upon Irish society.

A senator gets paid €17,000 for 20 days work. Disgusting. How many months does it take a nurse or a teacher in a rough school to earn that much? Over four months for certain.

Again: in Ireland in 2011, a person who isn't even elected by popular franchise gets paid €17,000 for 20 days work

Abolish this obscene parasitical institution now, where people can be appointed to this gravy train for simply coming on national television and ranting in favour of the Taoiseach of the day - yes, I mean Ahern's appointment of Eoghan Harris. Repulsive. It's disgusting in the extreme that this piss-take of Irish taxpayers and workers that is the Seanad is still going on in February 2011.

Dionysus · 01-02-2011 01:25AM

panda100 wrote: »

Does this mean that senators earn 17,000 for 20 days work??

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

No they don't

According to The Irish Times, the €17,000 was solely for the 20 days "work" and nothing else:

Conleth Bradley SC, for the Seanad, said he was “gobsmacked” that such a claim was made; as far as he was aware the only claim had been for loss of earnings. Mr O’Higgins said that while he was seeking payment for the 20 days his client had been suspended – totalling €16,948 – he was also asking the court to take into account the damage caused to his good name.
(http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0201/1224288694509.html)

Ivor Callely gets another 17,000.

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