Ivor Callely gets another 17,000.

Gunsfortoys · 31-01-2011 4:16pm #1

The High Court has ordered that Senator Ivor Callely be paid almost €17,000 for loss of earnings during his 20-day suspension from the Seanad last year.
The senator was present in the High Court for the first time since he successfully challenged the decision by the Seanad Committee on Members' Interests.
He was also awarded costs.
The High Court found his right to fair procedures and natural justice had been breached.
The decision to suspend him and a finding that he had misrepresented his place of residence for claiming expenses was overturned earlier this month.
The High Court found his right to fair procedures and natural justice had been breached.
This afternoon, Counsel for Senator Callely, Michael O'Higgins, said his client was restricting his claim for damages to €16,948, the loss of earnings due to his suspension from the Seanad.
Mr O'Higgins said the judgment earlier this month had found that the determination by the committee that he had misrepresented his place of residence had destroyed his good name.
It was used by sections of the media to justify the vitriol which descended on him.
Senator Callely had found it extremely distressing and upsetting, Mr O'Higgins said.
He said he had to leave his son's graduation such was the level of snide comment from one individual.
He said he was likely to be affected by the very grave damage to his name and would suffer loss of earnings into the future because of it.
Counsel for the committee, Conleth Bradley, said the issue of damages did not and should not arise in this case.
It was wrong to pursue the claim under the heading of damages, he said.
Mr Justice Iarfhlaith O'Neill has adjourned the case for short time and will continue to hear submissions this afternoon.

Source.

Jesus. As if he hasn't bled the place dry with his ridiculous expenses already. The unbelievable arrogance of these people knows no bounds.:mad:

Kasabian · 31-01-2011 4:18pm

He is entitled.

Sykk · 31-01-2011 4:18pm

Should be shot with balls of his own shíte.

MrStuffins · 31-01-2011 4:19pm

€17000 for loss of earnings in such a short period?

Next he'll be telling us someone stole his poker chip worth 100 Zillions of Dollars!

Hande hoche! · 31-01-2011 4:19pm

It's almost impressive how he knows how to work the system.

Craebear · 31-01-2011 4:19pm

Ah but sure isn't he a grand fella.

mikemac · 31-01-2011 4:20pm

The High Court found his right to fair procedures and natural justice had been breached.

Would you prefer people in Ireland didn't get fair procedure.

Trial by media anyone?

Yeah he is brazen but the law is there, he is entitled to the same as anyone else

phill106 · 31-01-2011 4:20pm

he gets 17k for 20 days there? Fooooookkkk me, no wonder the country is broke.

Gunsfortoys · 31-01-2011 4:21pm

Kasabian wrote: »

He is entitled.

He is entitled to a good kick up the arse.

Kristopherus · 31-01-2011 4:21pm

Why not blame the boffoons who thought they had the right to make an example out of him. He has been proven correct by the court, so he is entitled to every red cent.

Badgermonkey · 31-01-2011 4:22pm

I'm gonna call round and get it back.

He's in West Cork right?

listermint · 31-01-2011 4:22pm

feelingstressed wrote: »

Would you prefer people in Ireland didn't get fair procedure.

Trial by media anyone?

Yeah he is brazen but the law is there, he is entitled to the same as anyone else

Id prefer Trial by media tbh, Way more entertaining.

We good put him on one of those crazy japanese assault courses, And to win he had to complete the course.

pow wow · 31-01-2011 4:23pm

Badgermonkey wrote: »

I'm gonna call round and get it back.

He's in West Cork right?

Yeah. I'll drive you.

AnonoBoy · 31-01-2011 4:29pm

Another victory for the downtrodden! Yay!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 31-01-2011 4:34pm

pow wow wrote: »

Yeah. I'll drive you.

And I'll use a bit of Judo to throw him into your boot.

Ruu_Old · 31-01-2011 4:40pm

Hold on, I'll give him the steam off my piss as well!

tiger2 · 31-01-2011 4:45pm

Fianna Fail at its best - Watch this space there is talk of him suing further for loss of future earnings as his "reputation" has been severly damaged!!!

bleg · 31-01-2011 4:52pm

Leave him off, it's not as if he drove the wrong way down the dual carriage way, pissed out of his mind. That was the other fella.

Greenmachine · 31-01-2011 4:54pm

My faith in Irish politics is restored. :rolleyes:

Where's my bucket till I puke. :mad:

Duggy747 · 31-01-2011 4:57pm

I'll show him!! :mad:

I better get cracking on writing a stong-winded post on some forum, maybe he'll see the errors of his ways then!

Gunsfortoys · 31-01-2011 4:59pm

Duggy747 wrote: »

I better get cracking on writing a stong-winded post on some forum, maybe he'll see the errors of his ways then!

You will blow him away. :pac:

phasers · 31-01-2011 5:11pm

What a wanker

orourkeda · 31-01-2011 5:16pm

The brass stones on the c*nt

haydar · 31-01-2011 5:21pm

I actually cant wait to leave this country. Its gone beyond ridiculous. They should lock him in a room of people who are in arrears in there mortgage and let him explain his 'unfair treatment' to them

Guy:Incognito · 31-01-2011 5:43pm

ronkorp wrote: »

I actually cant wait to leave this country. Its gone beyond ridiculous. They should lock him in a room of people who are in arrears in there mortgage and let him explain his 'unfair treatment' to them

Would you write it off if it was your 17k ?

sealgaire · 31-01-2011 5:45pm

Kasabian wrote: »

He is entitled.

Jesus you are such a 'Yes' man . . .

mikemac · 31-01-2011 5:47pm

ronkorp wrote: »

I actually cant wait to leave this country. Its gone beyond ridiculous.

Goodbye, since you've decided to leave you don't get a vote

Guy:Incognito · 31-01-2011 5:50pm

sealgaire wrote: »

Jesus you are such a 'Yes' man . . .

The courts found in his favour, of course he in entitled to compensation.

Forget for a minute its Ivor Callaly we're talking about and instead it's Joe that works in a factory. He gets suspended, pleads his case and is found innocent. Would anyone have any issues with his compensation? Laws apply to everyone, we cant just say "ah but he's a prick so he gets nothing".

If life teaches you nothing its that at all levels, being a prick seems to work out quite well for people.

rednik · 31-01-2011 5:53pm

pow wow wrote: »

Yeah. I'll drive you.

Any room in the car just got my kit together. Just need to stop off on route, a few blades need sharpening.

SomeFool · 31-01-2011 5:53pm

Another reason to abolish the Seanad really

ejmaztec · 31-01-2011 5:54pm

Fuck the law, we want a vigilante.

Johnny Bitte · 31-01-2011 5:55pm

Sick of this ****, 17k for what?
Everyone was given out how he claimed using another address, no one said hold the **** on, why the **** should they be allowed claim so much in the first place!!!

Somoeone said fair ****s for knowing how to fiddle the system, clown.

Its not he's 17k, its ours.

PeterIanStaker · 31-01-2011 5:55pm

Sykk wrote: »

Should be shot with balls of his own shíte.

he should be hung with his own belt. wouldn't waste bullets, sh!t or rope on the cunt

neris · 31-01-2011 5:57pm

just proves the old boys club looking after themselves that is our elected reps. 17k is ridiculous amount to be awarded and just reflects how over paid and scheming these gob ****es are

Agricola · 31-01-2011 6:01pm

I remember looking at him in the Senate on TV, trying to pipe up with some off topic waffle and I thought to myself, Jesus that guy has some neck coming in there after whats come out about him. My father always said the most important thing you need to get ahead in life isnt education, its having a brass neck. How right he was.

sollar · 31-01-2011 6:11pm

Does Mr Callely have a government email address i want to pass on my best wishes to him

mikemac · 31-01-2011 6:16pm

sollar wrote: »

Does Mr Callely have a government email address i want to pass on my best wishes to him

Yes, and a ten second google search of the Irish seanad will get for you. You know this before posting this question.....
Or http://www.oireachtas.ie/

sollar · 31-01-2011 6:26pm

feelingstressed wrote: »

Yes, and a ten second google search of the Irish seanad will get for you. You know this before posting this question.....
Or http://www.oireachtas.ie/

Good god you bring sanctimony to a whole new level but thanks all the same i'll drop old ivor an email.

Sticky_Fingers · 31-01-2011 6:48pm

I wonder does old Ivor have any criminal case to answer for, falsely claiming expenses is tantamount to theft non?

Conor Bourke · 31-01-2011 6:49pm

pow wow wrote: »

Yeah. I'll drive you.

I'm heading that way on Thurs, I'll give ye a lift

whoopdedoo · 31-01-2011 6:52pm

he's got some neck on him for a snake!!

niallers1 · 31-01-2011 6:55pm

Legally he's up 17k
Morally he's bankrupt! :mad:

messymess · 31-01-2011 6:55pm

So, as far as I can tell Ivor exploited a loophole in the expenses claims process that was perfectly valid to exploit, which a court validated, even though it's completely unethical and dishonest.

Maybe it's a stupid question but has anyone actually thought to change the circumstances under which expenses can be claimed?

The 17,000k is a mute point ... I'm concerned about the 80k he effectively hoodwinked us out of. He's not the only person at this either I'm sure.

flutered · 31-01-2011 7:05pm

almost a thousand a day not bad if one can get it, hopefully fg will get rid of the most costly retirement home in the world, then cut down on the number of tds.

mossyc123 · 31-01-2011 7:05pm

Generally, I believe most politicians on all levels are decent people trying to do there best for the common good.

This chancer is the exception to that.

The good news is he's up to his balls in negative equity on loads of properties around North Dublin.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/callelys-own-19-properties-after-decade-of-investments-2517544.html

That 17K is but a drop in the ocean to what he owes.

I sincerely hope he never gets to go on another fancy foreign holiday or gets to eat in a nice restaurant ever again.

The chances of that happening however are slim to none :mad:

sdanseo · 31-01-2011 7:08pm

Regardless of whether the man SHOULD morally be claiming the expenses he did, or whether he SHOULD have been suspended; the fact remains the law of the land says he was in the right. He's entitled to every cent back and very few people here can I'm sure claim that if they found they were entitled to more cash from the state that they wouldn't claim it themselves.

Personal opinion of him is that he's a twat, a chancer and should be paying every cent into the exchequer or a suitable charity. However, we don't always get what we want.

The court of public opinion is all well and good but ONLY if you're objective.

whoopdedoo · 31-01-2011 7:13pm

he should be plagued at each of his permeant addresses until he gives it all back imho!

Gunsfortoys · 31-01-2011 7:15pm

sdonn wrote: »

Regardless of whether the man SHOULD morally be claiming the expenses he did, or whether he SHOULD have been suspended; the fact remains the law of the land says he was in the right. He's entitled to every cent back and very few people here can I'm sure claim that if they found they were entitled to more cash from the state that they wouldn't claim it themselves.

Personal opinion of him is that he's a twat, a chancer and should be paying every cent into the exchequer or a suitable charity. However, we don't always get what we want.

The court of public opinion is all well and good but ONLY if you're objective.

Not really arguing on the laws side, just the absolute immorality of the guy. The post about him having property dealings made me smile though. Karma.

R0ot · 31-01-2011 7:22pm

Kasabian wrote: »

He is entitled.

They should have been more above board about the whole thing and rather than just suspending him outright slowly get him out the fair way and then he wouldn't have been thrown another €17,000.

Cheap Thrills! · 31-01-2011 7:49pm

When i heard this earlier I had to turn off the radio in pure disgust.

€17k for 20 days work.

Fcuking Womble. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad:

OperaticBug · 31-01-2011 8:44pm

What a prick, what part of working for the good of the people is that. We all know that he knows that he was scamming same as the rest of the plebs in the seanad. When they voted 2 or 3 years ago so they do not need to product receipts for their monthly expenses then we all know that they were just raping the system that created for themselves. We need to abolish the seanad and change our system of government in this country.

Ivor Callely gets another 17,000.

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