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Why havent those anglo documents been decrytpted yet?

  • 24-01-2011 08:46AM
    #1
    nudist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭


    Who is in charge of the investigation-the garda? cant they just legally sue for the passwords if they cant get them bruteforced first?


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  • #2
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,532 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    They should just ask the IT people. Don't they work for the state now? Those b'stards always know where the skeletons are buried. ;)


  • #3
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Lumen wrote: »
    They should just ask the IT people. Don't they work for the state now? Those b'stards always know where the skeletons are buried. ;)

    Glad you put some trust in your IT guys.

    Mine are crap. Then again, have they tried kicking it and cursing at it? I find it helps.


  • #4
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,532 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    Glad you put some trust in your IT guys.

    Mine are crap. Then again, have they tried kicking it and cursing at it? I find it helps.

    However incompetent you think your IT guys are, it is an absolute certainty that they are smarter than senior bank executives.


  • #5
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Lumen wrote: »
    They should just ask the IT people.

    Will turning it off and turning it back on again work?
    That's what our IT people always say


  • #6
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Lumen wrote: »
    They should just ask the IT people. Don't they work for the state now? Those b'stards always know where the skeletons are buried. ;)

    Perhaps the undertakers might know something.


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  • #7
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guwvwp0uSU8


  • #8
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,028 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    There was a thread in one of the technical forums on this a few months ago.
    In general IT guys cant help with this one if the individual as done the encryption.
    http://www.truecrypt.org/ Free open source software.


  • #9
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,532 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    kippy wrote: »
    There was a thread in one of the technical forums on this a few months ago.
    In general IT guys cant help with this one if the individual as done the encryption.
    http://www.truecrypt.org/ Free open source software.

    Big If.

    Got a link to that thread?

    I read that the documents used MS Office passwords.


  • #10
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,028 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Lumen wrote: »
    Big If.

    Got a link to that thread?

    I read that the documents used MS Office passwords.

    Sorry, It wasnt in the technical forums it was in the Irish Economy forum.
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056103480

    The documents and files are in the hands of the Gardai for a while now so Anglo IT dont appear to have any access to open them.
    One can only assume that if the Gardai cyber crime unit (with the help of academia I believe) cannot open these files, they are encrypted a bit stronger than via office document passwords.


  • #11
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    It's a ruse. I see no-one has been arrested for obstructing justice because of it. Swend the key's over to my gaff, with some of those bankers. I'll get those codes!


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  • #12
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,532 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    kippy wrote: »
    Sorry, It wasnt in the technical forums it was in the Irish Economy forum.
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056103480

    The documents and files are in the hands of the Gardai for a while now so Anglo IT dont appear to have any access to open them.
    One can only assume that if the Gardai cyber crime unit (with the help of academia I believe) cannot open these files, they are encrypted a bit stronger than via office document passwords.

    Jesus, the signal/noise in that thread.

    Basically, the answer is:
    ntlbell wrote: »
    It's impossible to give any reasonable comment from a technical point of view when there are little or no facts.


  • #13
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    nudist wrote: »
    Who is in charge of the investigation-the garda? cant they just legally sue for the passwords if they cant get them bruteforced first?

    I don't know if suing could work. They could claim they can't remember the password. And possibly could make themselves forget. Eg by remembering almost identical passwords as to confuse the noggin

    I say bring in Jack Bauer to be sure


  • #14
    BaconZombie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    I thinking this link will explain how breaking encryption working in the real world:

    http://xkcd.com/538/


    Also you have a right to not incriminate yourself so they do not legally have to hand over the keys { the UK have a law that you can go to jail if you don't hand them over}.

    On a side note for them to be SOX { Sarbanes–Oxley } compliant the keys should be co-signed by a root pair that can decode them.
    So the owner of these keys should still be able to decode them, it;s is normally the Encryption Admin and/or CTO.


  • #15
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    *takes breath from inhaler*

    Have they tried updating their BIOS?

    Perhaps they should find the Recovery CD for TrueCrypt?

    Have they installed to the latest ATI / Nvidia drivers?

    Run a scan on AVG

    Enter in a static IP address?

    Run Chkdsk

    Do a repair install of Windows

    Upgrade their RAM?

    *Pushes thick nerd glasses up with middle finger*

    Heheheheh, uninstall Internet Explorer and install Firefox?


  • #16
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Have they tried 'Pass123' or 'LetMeIn'.

    They're the passwords I always use.


  • #17
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    When thy say that the wheels of Irish justice move slowly they weren't joking.


  • #18
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Have they tried 'Pass123' or 'LetMeIn'.

    They're the passwords I always use.

    or "letmeout" perhaps


  • #19
    North_West_Art
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭North_West_Art


    orourkeda wrote: »
    When thy say that the wheels of Irish justice move slowly they weren't joking.

    the wheels of Irish justice move quickly if someone tips the gates of Leinster House with a lorry.
    Expect the anglo inquiry to drag on for a long time. It will slowly disappear from the headlines. Any investigation in this country, which implicates the state in wrong-doing, never gets resolved


  • #20
    the purple tin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    They should make it into a public contest, whoever can crack the code gets a large cash prize or maybe a lifetime supply of government cheese.


  • #21
    TheDuderino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭TheDuderino


    Password could be "Evidencedontshowtogardaorwereallscrewed"

    or "pa55w0rd"

    look under keyboard/mouse mat or on a post-it stuck to the monitor?


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  • #22
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Write this one down and ask them if it's the right one.

    Ifyoudon'ttellmethepasswordI'llconnectyourballstothemains


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