bye bye greens

hedgecutting eddie · 23-01-2011 07:11PM #1

greens gone out of goverment ,is every farmer in the country delighted to hear that ,i kno i am.:D:D:D:D

jeff greene · 23-01-2011 07:34PM

They were a disaster, how could so few, have had so much influence on the Government? They defiantly don’t understand countrylife and I won’t miss them:D

sh1tstirrer · 23-01-2011 07:35PM

The problem is will they be kept out.

reilig · 23-01-2011 07:38PM

Does this mean that the climate change bill isn't going to happen now? I thought this was one of their main aims while in government??

johnmcdnl · 23-01-2011 07:39PM

they will be kept out - there going to be linked to FF so no one is going to vote for them - they'll be lucky to keep a seat in the Dail I'd say... Even in the cities where they had some support there going to be hit hard...

I wonder how many of there policies will be dropped though with the new government

Fiskar · 23-01-2011 09:00PM

I wonder how many of there policies will be dropped though with the new government[/QUOTE]

I'd say very little or any of their policies will be dropped by the new government as they were based on Eu Directives or Regulations. There would be fines for doing so. It's status quo for the moment, nothing will happen, new government has to find it's feet after a long period out, jobs and the economy will take precedence.

irishh_bob · 23-01-2011 09:05PM

hedgecutting eddie wrote: »

greens gone out of goverment ,is every farmer in the country delighted to hear that ,i kno i am.:D:D:D:D

im keeping my chapagne on ice untill FF are decimated

BeeDI · 23-01-2011 09:18PM

irishh_bob wrote: »

im keeping my chapagne on ice untill FF are decimated

And when Enda rides in in his white steed, along with gilmore and pat rabbite riding shotgun, you will no doubt be filled with confidence about the future. Que another bottle of champagne. :cool:

John_F · 23-01-2011 09:33PM

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

The problem is will they be kept out.

was delighted when i heard the news on radio while filling diet feeder.... then this evening when i heard about green eammon having conversation with fine gael simon coveney... are these parties getting pally... and when there being included in the talks with the finance bill... will they get more pally.. and come election if any green is in the dail will fine gael be looking to them as to form a collation.......

here's hoping not so

irishh_bob · 23-01-2011 10:40PM

BeeDI wrote: »

And when Enda rides in in his white steed, along with gilmore and pat rabbite riding shotgun, you will no doubt be filled with confidence about the future. Que another bottle of champagne. :cool:

dont be so sure , gilmore and co might be surplus to requirements considering how much of the FF vote is up for grabs , had FG representitives had the wit to replace kenny with bruton last summer , FG would have cruised to an overall majority , kenny is the one thing that makes potential FG voters think twice

irishh_bob · 23-01-2011 10:43PM

John_F wrote: »

was delighted when i heard the news on radio while filling diet feeder.... then this evening when i heard about green eammon having conversation with fine gael simon coveney... are these parties getting pally... and when there being included in the talks with the finance bill... will they get more pally.. and come election if any green is in the dail will fine gael be looking to them as to form a collation.......

here's hoping not so

would perfer to see FG go into goverment with the green party than with labour if thats all it took to make up the numbers , i doubt the greens will have enough still standing on the pitch after the election though to make any difference

Shauny2010 · 23-01-2011 10:55PM

Stupid fuc*ers, they could have at least waited till the finance bill was passed,
this shows that they don't give a sh1t about Ireland

Min · 23-01-2011 11:07PM

I don't think we will be made up with Labour in government.

Birdnuts · 24-01-2011 01:23AM

irishh_bob wrote: »

dont be so sure , gilmore and co might be surplus to requirements considering how much of the FF vote is up for grabs , had FG representitives had the wit to replace kenny with bruton last summer , FG would have cruised to an overall majority , kenny is the one thing that makes potential FG voters think twice

FG is the party of the big farmer and I fully expect them to follow that agenda in government - I just hope they won't have control of the Dept of Environment too which would be a disaster going on the record of FG controlled councils around the country and the fact that powerfull vested interests have as much sway over FG as they do FF

whelan1 · 24-01-2011 07:17AM

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

The problem is will they be kept out.

tbh apart from their direct families i cant see anybody voting for them

henryporter · 24-01-2011 07:30AM

So the Greens are responsible for the economic meltdown of this country? How many of ye voted FF since 1997?

BeeDI · 24-01-2011 07:35AM

whelan1 wrote: »

tbh apart from their direct families i cant see anybody voting for them

Do they have families? I mean families who admit being related to them.:D

henryporter · 24-01-2011 07:38AM

jeff greene wrote: »

They were a disaster, how could so few, have had so much influence on the Government? They defiantly don’t understand countrylife and I won’t miss them:D

I live in the countryside (and am the son of a farmer) and all I see are farmers diluting slurry tanks out of a stream, starving horses and dead foals (if ye want pictures pm me), under utilised farm land, over emphasis on beef farming, no concepts of crop rotation whatsoever, very few farmers growing their own veg, hedgerows being shredded with flail cutters all year round, etc. etc. The Greens aren't the only ones who don't understand 'countrylife'.

Birdnuts · 24-01-2011 07:57AM

henryporter wrote: »

So the Greens are responsible for the economic meltdown of this country? How many of ye voted FF since 1997?

Most I'd say going on the fact that the average FF voter is now over 65 and rural based - big farmers though tend to go for FG

Shauny2010 · 24-01-2011 08:12AM

henryporter wrote: »

I live in the countryside (and am the son of a farmer) and all I see are farmers diluting slurry tanks out of a stream, starving horses and dead foals (if ye want pictures pm me), under utilised farm land, over emphasis on beef farming, no concepts of crop rotation whatsoever, very few farmers growing their own veg, hedgerows being shredded with flail cutters all year round, etc. etc. The Greens aren't the only ones who don't understand 'countrylife'.

What about Gormly, he used to cycle to the Dail and then have a big entourage of state cars following him along the road to carry his briefcase.

What about his own vested interest in stopping the new incinerator.

The Greens are a sham who like the rest of the TDs lived it up with juicy expenses and lavish lifestyles

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say

Birdnuts · 24-01-2011 08:39AM

Shauny2010 wrote: »

What about Gormly, he used to cycle to the Dail and then have a big entourage of state cars following him along the road to carry his briefcase.

What about his own vested interest in stopping the new incinerator.

The Greens are a sham who like the rest of the TDs lived it up with juicy expenses and lavish lifestyles

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say

Ok - but no point in replacing them with more of the same in the form of the 2 main parties which tend to dominate in rural areas:(

BeeDI · 24-01-2011 08:48AM

henryporter wrote: »

So the Greens are responsible for the economic meltdown of this country? How many of ye voted FF since 1997?

I did, ONLY, because the FG election manifesto promised to spend even more money than the FF'rs:mad:

Birdnuts · 24-01-2011 08:50AM

BeeDI wrote: »

I did, ONLY, because the FG election manifesto promised to spend even more money than the FF'rs:mad:

You've just proved my point - little difference between the 2 main parties ie. time to look elsewhere:)

Shauny2010 · 24-01-2011 09:47AM

There is nowhere else to look,
FG is another version of FF
I`m not voting Labour as all they are is a the public service party who will only pay themselves more
A vote for an Independent is a complete waste of time as they can do nothing only toe the line

So who does that leave ?
Sinn Féin
thats a scary thought

reilig · 24-01-2011 10:37AM

henryporter wrote: »

I live in the countryside (and am the son of a farmer) and all I see are farmers diluting slurry tanks out of a stream, starving horses and dead foals (if ye want pictures pm me), under utilised farm land, over emphasis on beef farming, no concepts of crop rotation whatsoever, very few farmers growing their own veg, hedgerows being shredded with flail cutters all year round, etc. etc. The Greens aren't the only ones who don't understand 'countrylife'.

What's wrong with taking water out of a stream to thin slurry???? If the farmer was pouring slurry into it, then report him to your local county council. I cannot see how there could be an over emphasis on beef farming when there is the lowest amount of beef cattle in this country for years. Surely its a good thing. Report people who cut hedges out of season, its wrong. Is underutilising farm land a bad thing??? Finally, any farmer that starves animals - cattle, horses pigs, should be reported to the Department of Agriculture. A very small minority do this and IMO they should be banned from keeping animals.

I would love to see your pictures of the "over emhphasis on beef farming", the "farmers dilutuing slurry tanks out of a stream", and the "under utilised farm land" as I would like to understand how these have a negative impact on the countryside.

Happyman42 · 24-01-2011 10:44AM

reilig wrote: »

I would love to see your pictures of the "over emhphasis on beef farming", the "farmers dilutuing slurry tanks out of a stream", and the "under utilised farm land" as I would like to understand how these have a negative impact on the countryside.

Same here
Another sore Green gilding the lily methinks. :rolleyes:

BeeDI · 24-01-2011 10:50AM

henryporter wrote: »

I live in the countryside (and am the son of a farmer) and all I see are farmers diluting slurry tanks out of a stream, starving horses and dead foals (if ye want pictures pm me), under utilised farm land, over emphasis on beef farming, no concepts of crop rotation whatsoever, very few farmers growing their own veg, hedgerows being shredded with flail cutters all year round, etc. etc. The Greens aren't the only ones who don't understand 'countrylife'.

So that's ALL you see, eh! Don't by any chance see ANY, live healthy farm animals, don't by any chance see that in incredible and allmost unaffordable amount of mone has been invested by farmers in slurry control and containment infrastructure over the past 10 years. Don't by any chance see that the cutting of hedges is extremely tightly controlled!

I can well understand why you are a son of a farmer living in the country, who is not actually farming! The auld fella, probably knew well who NOT to pass on the farm to:cool:

strewthelvis · 24-01-2011 11:00AM

I noticed too how pally FG has become with the Greens the past few days. Is there one green that istn a silver spoon in the gob city slicker. looked like that mary white had a trout pout last night.

rahin man · 24-01-2011 11:20AM

The green party bless them got organic farming seperated from reps. then opened the scheme for a month last may.

they have since rejected every commercial organic plan on the basis of there being no "growth" in the plan.

So the green partys legacy for irish agriculture was to get rid of organic farming.... you couldent make it up

still labour is no friend of the land..

The only use the shinners have for agriculture is as a source of green diesel for laundering...

What alternatives are there??

jeff greene · 24-01-2011 11:30AM

henryporter wrote: »

I live in the countryside (and am the son of a farmer) and all I see are farmers diluting slurry tanks out of a stream, starving horses and dead foals (if ye want pictures pm me), under utilised farm land, over emphasis on beef farming, no concepts of crop rotation whatsoever, very few farmers growing their own veg, hedgerows being shredded with flail cutters all year round, etc. etc. The Greens aren't the only ones who don't understand 'countrylife'.

First of all nothing wrong in taking water from a river, explain to everyone why you think it Is? People who don’t feed their horses is terrible but I doubt their real farmers. The use of farmland is a result of policy and economic problems, if you cant break even, Try not to lose money. You should report the hedgecutting out of season but in my area its only road junctions that are cut.

Sorry you live in a horrible area if all you see is dead foals with farmers cutting hedges all the time, any nice fields of sheeps or cows around?

Your right the Greens aren’t to only ones to not understand, neither do you.

BeeDI · 24-01-2011 11:30AM

rahin man wrote: »

The green party bless them got organic farming seperated from reps. then opened the scheme for a month last may.

they have since rejected every commercial organic plan on the basis of there being no "growth" in the plan.

So the green partys legacy for irish agriculture was to get rid of organic farming.... you couldent make it up

still labour is no friend of the land..

The only use the shinners have for agriculture is as a source of green diesel for laundering...

What alternatives are there??

IFA :cool: Real men doing real service for small farmers :cool:

bye bye greens

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