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Left wing stupidity vs Right Wing Stupidity

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Wait we talking about social left and right or economic left and right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    If the people before profit loons got their way we would be bankrupt in a matter of days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Johro wrote: »
    I think you need lessons on what constitutes left wing and right wing. Let's start here: Left wing good, Right wing bad.
    Oops... Must add the smiley.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Pauleta wrote: »
    If the people before profit loons got their way we would be bankrupt in a matter of days.

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭cianl1


    Pauleta wrote: »
    If the people before profit loons got their way we would be bankrupt in a matter of days.

    Exactly. Just as we also need to ensure peoples civil liberties aren't compromised.

    One hand washes the other.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Pauleta wrote: »
    If the people before profit loons got their way we would be bankrupt in a matter of days.
    As opposed to being bankrupt now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Johro wrote: »
    As opposed to being bankrupt now.
    Buy a dictionary. Look up bankrupt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    OisinT wrote: »
    Wait we talking about social left and right or economic left and right?
    Stop it you're confusing me. I may have to lie down for a bit...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    OisinT wrote: »
    Buy a dictionary. Look up bankrupt.
    Fair enough, but it's close enough for me. Buy manners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Johro wrote: »
    Fair enough, but it's close enough for me. Buy manners.
    Did I hurt your feelings? :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    OisinT wrote: »
    Did I hurt your feelings? :o
    I feel so violated...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    cianl1 wrote: »
    That's exactly what I'm saying. As fontanalis pointed out, why the hell are all the worlds problems condensed into two view-points?

    Thats true. Clearly there are 12 view points. my viewpont is pisces


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Right-wingers are stupid because they base a lot of their decisions on hatred and selfishness.

    Left-wingers are stupid because they're idealistic and over-optimistic.

    Both sides have their massive impracticalities and sensationalism. I just tend to be more worried about the right-wingers' massive impracticalities and sensationalism (fear/war/hatred mongering) than left-wingers' (political correctness/hyper-emotionalizing/over-accepting of bad behaviour).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'm a middle winger :pac:

    Lefties are too busy on campaigns of tolerence and PC not realising the hypocrisy they create by battling against the right-wingers "propaganda machine" and generally make life that little less bit fun day by day.

    Righties are too conservative and afraid of moving forward in some instances. Unfortunatley they have a stong grip on society.

    Both are dangerous groups with their own agendas, fighting over how our society should be run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    liah wrote: »
    Right-wingers are stupid because they base a lot of their decisions on hatred and selfishness.

    Left-wingers are stupid because they're idealistic and over-optimistic.

    Both sides have their massive impracticalities and sensationalism. I just tend to be more worried about the right-wingers' massive impracticalities and sensationalism (fear/war/hatred mongering) than left-wingers' (political correctness/hyper-emotionalizing/over-accepting of bad behaviour).
    Massive generalisations but some of that's true. Wouldn't the 'stupid' ones be on the far left or right?
    I'd consider myself left wing* but can't stand this kind of stuff>>(political correctness/hyper-emotionalizing/over-accepting of bad behaviour)

    *should probably say: opposed to right-wing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Thats true. Clearly there are 12 view points. my viewpont is pisces
    Let's not go there:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Johro wrote: »
    Massive generalisations but some of that's true. Wouldn't the 'stupid' ones be on the far left or right?
    I'd consider myself left wing but can't stand this kind of stuff>>(political correctness/hyper-emotionalizing/over-accepting of bad behaviour)

    Ah, of course they're generalizations, if they weren't I'd be on the topic all day. Of course it only really applies to the extreme in most places, but I pay quite a bit of attention to US politics and it's a pretty fair representation of the media's (and, frankly, a very large slice of the populaces') take on each side. Not that the media is anything to judge an individual's personal political views on, but again, this is just a generalization and doesn't really mean anything on an individual basis.

    I don't really consider myself any wing, tbh, some of my viewpoints are based on both sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    liah wrote: »
    Ah, of course they're generalizations, if they weren't I'd be on the topic all day. Of course it only really applies to the extreme in most places, but I pay quite a bit of attention to US politics and it's a pretty fair representation of the media's (and, frankly, a very large slice of the populous') take on each side. Not that the media is anything to judge an individual's personal political views on, but again, this is just a generalization and doesn't really mean anything on an individual basis.

    I don't really consider myself any wing, tbh, some of my viewpoints are based on both sides.
    In that case, I totally agree. I suppose I don't really consider myself left wing as I stated earlier, it's just that for me, right wing ideologies are so anti-people, and disagreeable enough for me to want to put myself on the opposite side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Right Wing Stupidity: I think this boils down to them living in the past, they often cling to principals and ideas that are no longer relevant. I admire much of their practical view of the world though.
    My problem with that is some of the right wing posts on AH such as the one saying we should stop sending food to starving people in an overpopulated world. 'Let them die' could be considered 'practical'. It even makes good economical sense. Doesn't make it right though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Johro wrote: »
    My problem with that is some of the right wing posts on AH such as the one saying we should stop sending food to starving people in an overpopulated world. 'Let them die' could be considered 'practical'. It even makes good economical sense. Doesn't make it right though.
    Actually many people believe that direct aid to third world countries is doing more harm than good.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Johro wrote: »
    My problem with that is some of the right wing posts on AH such as the one saying we should stop sending food to starving people in an overpopulated world. 'Let them die' could be considered 'practical'. It even makes good economical sense. Doesn't make it right though.

    i disagree,mainly because i am a strong believer in natural selection.Me being genetically stronger and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Liberalbrehon


    You need to clarify some things. Left and right is far too simplistic. There are generally 3 pillars to society
    Political
    Economic
    Social (includes cultural)

    Now you can have groups on either side of these in various degrees. Most Irish parties are politically right or authoritarian i.e. we know whats best for you so we're going to tell you how to live.
    Economic is the main area of where people focus there left/right argument. Fairly straightforward but can be areas of gray and political economy comes into it.
    Social - Here is one where Irish parties have not been honest with people. FF/FG/Labour/SF are all conservatives, not wanting personal freedoms for people, limiting human rights to certain groups but not others. Only implementing social protections when they have too. There are currently no registered pp that are historically liberal socially imo, if you can prove me wrong, I'm happy to be corrected.

    So would you frame your OP differently now given this explanation? maybe just confine to economic sphere?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    OisinT wrote: »
    Actually many people believe that direct aid to third world countries is doing more harm than good.
    In its present state, yes. It's certainly doing no good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    i disagree,mainly because i am a strong believer in natural selection.Me being genetically stronger and all.
    Walk six miles to the well and back for dirty water in baking heat and we'll see how long you last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    You need to clarify some things.

    I agree!

    OP, are you talking about your left or my left?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭carfiosaoorl


    This is an interesting quiz that shows you where you stand politically:D

    http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    when i was younger i associated the left with more personal freedoms and greater distribution of wealth and power. as i've gotten older i realised the left is actually more about taking how society develops and regulating it.

    thats why i now lean to the right. the right focuses more on the individual, and the individual's right to live the life they want unhindered by the mechanisms of the state.

    give me anarchy over nannystateism any day.

    i know this is another example of over simplifying this but it's how i look at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    when i was younger i associated the left with more personal freedoms and greater distribution of wealth and power. as i've gotten older i realised the left is actually more about taking how society develops and regulating it.

    thats why i now lean to the right. the right focuses more on the individual, and the individual's right to live the life they want unhindered by the mechanisms of the state.

    give me anarchy over nannystateism any day.

    i know this is another example of over simplifying this but it's how i look at it.
    Yeah, the wealthier individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    when i was younger i associated the left with more personal freedoms and greater distribution of wealth and power. as i've gotten older i realised the left is actually more about taking how society develops and regulating it.

    thats why i now lean to the right. the right focuses more on the individual, and the individual's right to live the life they want unhindered by the mechanisms of the state.

    give me anarchy over nannystateism any day.

    i know this is another example of over simplifying this but it's how i look at it.
    To be fair, this is how it pans out alright. But the polarisation of right and left is no good to anybody. The arguments should be about equality, or lack of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Sure didn't the Almighty himself give us a crack on our arse so we could sit comfortably on the fence


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