[CoD Black Ops] - MegaBitch thread

jimbling · 20-01-2011 09:49AM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

The 74u with rapid fire attachment. Everyone is using it.

I'm really not getting the 74u hate at all*. Okay, it's definitely the best / most popular SMG and maybe the most popular gun overall, but it's not that overused. Most games you might get 20-30% of people using it. The other 70% using a variety of different weapons.
I reckon I see the Famas as much as the 74u.

I reckon it's just that a lot of the more annoying players use it. The same guys that use ghost and sit in corners with second chance on. So you notice what that guy is using more than others and it sticks in the head.

*In saying that, I was playing sniper role in a Dom game yesterday and I got outsniped by a guy with a 74u.... that was fcking annoying.... but most likely down to me being ****e at sniping :pac:

Procasinator · 20-01-2011 10:03AM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

The 74u with rapid fire attachment. Everyone is using it.

Lately I've been messing with Marathon, Slight of Hand Pro and Lightweight Pro with an AK74u + rapid fire. Just for messin'. Don't hate me. :P

It's a head shot machine, and it's kind of fun. Go to switch guns or get more ammo if you want to go for long killstreaks though.

Nuri Sahin · 20-01-2011 12:09PM

jimbling wrote: »

I'm really not getting the 74u hate at all*. Okay, it's definitely the best / most popular SMG and maybe the most popular gun overall, but it's not that overused. Most games you might get 20-30% of people using it. The other 70% using a variety of different weapons.
I reckon I see the Famas as much as the 74u.

I reckon it's just that a lot of the more annoying players use it. The same guys that use ghost and sit in corners with second chance on. So you notice what that guy is using more than others and it sticks in the head.

*In saying that, I was playing sniper role in a Dom game yesterday and I got outsniped by a guy with a 74u.... that was fcking annoying.... but most likely down to me being ****e at sniping :pac:

That set up no. The gun is still over used. I'd reckon it's around 30% of players using the 74u and 30% Famas. Rough general estimate in the games I played in yesterday for example. Still far too many and people are completely unwilling to try different guns or get better using different guns is tediously annoying. The slightly nerfed the 74u, nothing more. They should have added some power to the other SMG's and put more recoil on the 74u simple as.

jimbling · 20-01-2011 12:54PM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

That set up no. The gun is still over used. I'd reckon it's around 30% of players using the 74u and 30% Famas. Rough general estimate in the games I played in yesterday for example. Still far too many and people are completely unwilling to try different guns or get better using different guns is tediously annoying. The slightly nerfed the 74u, nothing more. They should have added some power to the other SMG's and put more recoil on the 74u simple as.

ah ya, I agree all right. But I guess I dont see it as being much of a problem. There are way bigger issues that are far more annoying. It doesn't even come close to the use of second chance or the absolute crap that is knifing.

hypermuse · 20-01-2011 01:32PM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

That set up no. The gun is still over used. I'd reckon it's around 30% of players using the 74u and 30% Famas. Rough general estimate in the games I played in yesterday for example. Still far too many and people are completely unwilling to try different guns or get better using different guns is tediously annoying. The slightly nerfed the 74u, nothing more. They should have added some power to the other SMG's and put more recoil on the 74u simple as.

cant agree with you more!!

I still dont really get the hate for this game.. yea its a bit frustrating regarding connection issues, crashing etc.

not to mention some gameplay sometimes but it aint that horribly bad!!

I mean I dont see what else you've got them MW2 and COD4 are hacked to death.. MW2 was kinda more fun but there are loads of pros and cons regarding which game is better/more fun.

but the deciding factor for me is that this blops is not hacked to death and even if you do find some1 who has hacked you can at least report them.. which is a start!

IMO blops improvements include:

Killstreak kills (e.g naplam) dont count to towards your killstreak! this way if you get a 11 kill streak you've bloody well earned it!!
noob-toobing is nowhere near as bad as MW2
Being able to add a second controller online (EPIC)
Wager matches (SUPER EPIC)
boosting in FFA gone and I have yet to come across any boosters mainly because (see next point)
no retarded tactial nukes (but if some1 can get a 25 kill streak without killstreak reward assisting them then they prob deserve it but then, boosting begins!!!)
Quickscoping (was ridiculous in MW2)

Blops screw ups:

Connections, crashing/freezing
sound and graphics (I dont really care about coz you get used to it quick and its all about gameplay for me)
Maps are not exactly fantastic (except nuketown!) this can make some game types very slow to get started (Array 1:30 in and no sign of opposition fml)
RC-XD most retarded and frustrating killstreak ever (especially for a 2-3 killstreak)
match making (12 player game ends up as 5v7, WTF???)
Knife lunging

Things I dont understand people giving out about are Ghost, suppressors and 2nd chance.. hell yea its frustrating as fcuk (trust me I know) but your not gonna be able to avoid that in a game like this. Your always gonna get pussy's like that!! It was in MW2 aswel but didnt seem to be as much an issue!! perhaps a game mode where perks are limited/gone might help solve this!

theres prob other things I missed but thats generally my view on the whole thing!

Magill · 20-01-2011 01:50PM

hypermuse wrote: »

cant agree with you more!!

I still dont really get the hate for this game.. yea its a bit frustrating regarding connection issues, crashing etc.

not to mention some gameplay sometimes but it aint that horribly bad!!

I mean I dont see what else you've got them MW2 and COD4 are hacked to death.. MW2 was kinda more fun but there are loads of pros and cons regarding which game is better/more fun.

but the deciding factor for me is that this blops is not hacked to death and even if you do find some1 who has hacked you can at least report them.. which is a start!

IMO blops improvements include:

Killstreak kills (e.g naplam) dont count to towards your killstreak! this way if you get a 11 kill streak you've bloody well earned it!!

noob-toobing is nowhere near as bad as MW2

Being able to add a second controller online (EPIC)

Wager matches (SUPER EPIC)

boosting in FFA gone and I have yet to come across any boosters mainly because (see next point)

no retarded tactial nukes (but if some1 can get a 25 kill streak without killstreak reward assisting them then they prob deserve it but then, boosting begins!!!)

Quickscoping (was ridiculous in MW2)

Blops screw ups:

Connections, crashing/freezing

sound and graphics (I dont really care about coz you get used to it quick and its all about gameplay for me)

Maps are not exactly fantastic (except nuketown!) this can make some game types very slow to get started (Array 1:30 in and no sign of opposition fml)

RC-XD most retarded and frustrating killstreak ever (especially for a 2-3 killstreak)

match making (12 player game ends up as 5v7, WTF???)

Knife lunging

Things I dont understand people giving out about are Ghost, suppressors and 2nd chance.. hell yea its frustrating as fcuk (trust me I know) but your not gonna be able to avoid that in a game like this. Your always gonna get pussy's like that!! It was in MW2 aswel but didnt seem to be as much an issue!! perhaps a game mode where perks are limited/gone might help solve this!

theres prob other things I missed but thats generally my view on the whole thing!

Agree with most of that tbh, the maps are just personal preference really.. however on array, i just head up to the car at the top of the hill... its like a mini ****ing nuketown up there lol, alot of the big maps have their focus points that everyone likes to be, guess thats why some of them feel empty at times.

Ghost and the AK74u dont really bother me either, the only reason people get pissed with ghost is because they get raped from behind because they're clued to the radar... happens to me all the time. Its anoying but its not a game ender like DC/OMA was and it keeps you on your toes. The AK74u is just one of those guns that people love... **** it, i've got like 400 kills with it on my current account, famas is miles ahead with 2000 odd. But sure looking at peoples combat records, even the ones that complain about it, its usually they're most used weapon (Ade, im looking at you

). I'll give off about it when im killed but sure im a whiney bastard anyway and give out anytime i die

Hate the RC car too... flak jacket on every class for my entire prestege so far... great when someone drives half way cross the map just to get denied by flak jacket

Nuri Sahin · 20-01-2011 02:07PM

Nice, trying to call me out

I've never denied using it. I used it at the very beginning after everyone said to use it(I played the game nearly 10-15 hours after most did). I admitted right off the bat it was overpowered at the very beginning and it needed to be nerfed all the way to this point in time. What 2 months after release?

I've rarely used it this prestige because I'm tired of being killed by it and frankly it's a boring gun. Why? Because I'm guaranteed to do very well with it. It's a shame there wasn't a most used gun per a prestige or something to prove how little I've used it in the last 2 prestiges. AK47 or MP5k would be top.

I think 95% of players have it as their most used gun anyway.

jimbling · 20-01-2011 02:09PM

hypermuse wrote: »

Things I dont understand people giving out about are Ghost, suppressors and 2nd chance.. hell yea its frustrating as fcuk (trust me I know) but your not gonna be able to avoid that in a game like this. Your always gonna get pussy's like that!! It was in MW2 aswel but didnt seem to be as much an issue!! perhaps a game mode where perks are limited/gone might help solve this!

I dont really have a problem with ghost at all. The guys who camp using it piss me off, but not a big deal. They're generally easy to deal with.
I have no issue at all with those using ghost and flanking etc. In fact, it's a great part of the game.
Also, to choose ghost, you have to pass on some of the best perks (Hardline Pro/flak jacket) there is. It's not an easy choice, therefore you wont get massive amounts using it.

Second chance on the other hand is different. I hate the perk, but it's not just that... it's that the perk section is not as balanced as the others. Second Chance stands out as the obvious choice for a lot of players. This leads to large numbers of people using it.

If one / two guys used second chance in every game you'd get over it..... it's the fact that often 50%+ of them are using it, and if that's the case you're in for a very frustrating game.

Shammy · 20-01-2011 02:13PM

I must not be using the ak 74u correctly , my k/d with it is 1.25 but my overall k/d is 1.5 something........

Nuri Sahin · 20-01-2011 02:19PM

I'll say it again. 2nd chance doesn't bother me nearly as much as some because 1) I usually end up getting the kill when others do not. 2) Martydom and then to a lesser extent Juggernaut and 3 frags in COD4 + Commando + OMA + Danger Close + Scavenger + Tac Insertion far and away infuriated me more than bloody 2nd chance :pac:

Ghost, it's the camper factor again. Sure there are those who don't camp and use it but equally there are those who do camp from my time playing.

To be blunt, I simply hate people relying on certain things. I find dull how one person can stick to the same gun, perk or whatever. Broaden your horizon people

I try to vary my choices especially once I've unlocked everything. Though one thing I will not be using ever is 2nd chance

Peyton Manning · 20-01-2011 02:23PM

I still believe that even with all the connection issues, gameplay flaws and framerate problems, there is nothing more annoying about this than simply being off your game.

I think Im pretty good at this, not as good as others here, but still I do well for myself. But every now and then, I'll have an evening where Im just sure others on my team and the other team think "God this guy sucks". I call them "Turnip Sessions" - nothing goes right, your accuracy is terrible and everybody sees you before you see them. Suffice to say, earlier today, earlier today I had one gigantic fúcking turnip session.

Leeg17 · 20-01-2011 02:29PM

Been on a turnip session all week. The more in a day I play the worse I seem to do as the day progress, and the more annoying stuff like second chance and RC cars seem to be.

Must play less / take a break.

hypermuse · 20-01-2011 02:35PM

I always always use marathon.. never use 2nd chance.

I prefer to be able to get where I want to get fast.. Hate the whole sprint/walk/sprint/walk thing!

always have spy plane aswel as it helps the team do better. Never use RC-XD, its just a joke!!

jimbling · 20-01-2011 02:36PM

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

I'll say it again. 2nd chance doesn't bother me nearly as much as some because 1) I usually end up getting the kill when others do not. 2) Martydom and then to a lesser extent Juggernaut and 3 frags in COD4 + Commando + OMA + Danger Close + Scavenger + Tac Insertion far and away infuriated me more than bloody 2nd chance :pac:

1) I'm no where near as good as you Ade so I find it very problematic. i.e. guy going into second chance and someone else killing him. Or getting killed by his mate while you wait for invincibility to wear off. Or running out of ammo trying to kill him during invincibility, or moving on to his team mate only to be killed by the last standing motha fcka :rolleyes:

2) But they're not in Blops

:pac:

Anyway, the point really is that I don't find lots of people using the AK74u annoying. Someone really good at the game and only ever using that gun might annoy me all right, but majority of the time you can kick their ass anyway.

Magill · 20-01-2011 02:37PM

Tom_Brady wrote: »

I still believe that even with all the connection issues, gameplay flaws and framerate problems, there is nothing more annoying about this than simply being off your game.

I think Im pretty good at this, not as good as others here, but still I do well for myself. But every now and then, I'll have an evening where Im just sure others on my team and the other team think "God this guy sucks". I call them "Turnip Sessions" - nothing goes right, your accuracy is terrible and everybody sees you before you see them. Suffice to say, earlier today, earlier today I had one gigantic fúcking turnip session.

Must be why i like the game so much

Magill · 20-01-2011 02:44PM

Shammy wrote: »

I must not be using the ak 74u correctly , my k/d with it is 1.25 but my overall k/d is 1.5 something........

Yeah, mine is 1.75 with the 74u and my actualy K/D is 2.85, its like 10th on my K/D ranking thing.... Its the same with most peoples that i've checked, i mean the stats don't lie... how can something that doesnt even come close to your top gun be considered overpowered ?

krudler · 20-01-2011 02:48PM

Leeg17 wrote: »

Been on a turnip session all week. The more in a day I play the worse I seem to do as the day progress, and the more annoying stuff like second chance and RC cars seem to be.

Must play less / take a break.

that happens me, i play 8 games and suck, yet last night i got a chopper gunner no hassle in my first game of the evening. then got worse as the night went on :pac:

20-01-2011 03:07PM

Magill wrote: »

Yeah, mine is 1.75 with the 74u and my actualy K/D is 2.85, its like 10th on my K/D ranking thing.... Its the same with most peoples that i've checked, i mean the stats don't lie... how can something that doesnt even come close to your top gun be considered overpowered ?

tbh, it's less than a 1 K/D on mine and my K/D is 1.25 or something like that but that's because I used it mostly at the start in my first prestige. You can tell when you kill with it/get killed by it that it's overpowered. It takes less bullets to kill at short range than it's big brother which is ok, but it has the same clip and only a slightly less range which can be fixed by putting grip on it. When I use it I feel it takes less bullets and is easier to use than other guns. It may be just because so many people use it but it is as bad as the UMP was in MW2 imo and since soo many less people use snipers a lot of games are very unbalanced with everyone using the AK74.

Magill · 20-01-2011 03:18PM

Liam O wrote: »

tbh, it's less than a 1 K/D on mine and my K/D is 1.25 or something like that but that's because I used it mostly at the start in my first prestige. You can tell when you kill with it/get killed by it that it's overpowered. It takes less bullets to kill at short range than it's big brother which is ok, but it has the same clip and only a slightly less range which can be fixed by putting grip on it. When I use it I feel it takes less bullets and is easier to use than other guns. It may be just because so many people use it but it is as bad as the UMP was in MW2 imo and since soo many less people use snipers a lot of games are very unbalanced with everyone using the AK74.

I donno, maybe its just me but i find it pretty horrible at long range, taking 7 or 8 bullets sometimes to kill people ? (Which is how it should be)

Dues Bellator · 20-01-2011 03:25PM

krudler wrote: »

that happens me, i play 8 games and suck, yet last night i got a chopper gunner no hassle in my first game of the evening. then got worse as the night went on :pac:

same here :mad:

Nuri Sahin · 20-01-2011 07:02PM

As host, if I last 2 minutes before getting kicked well, it's an achievement

hypermuse · 20-01-2011 07:34PM

I've been kicked sometimes during the countdown at the start of the game!!

oh treyfail.. when will you learn.

Leeg17 · 20-01-2011 08:15PM

Picking me as host, or even considering it!

Nantastic · 21-01-2011 07:30AM

Devine merciful hour of jaysus! On firing range last night plaing Dom. 2 campers around A. You could call it tactics if it wasn't for the fact we held A! They werent moving, belly on the floor, why the fck play that way?

Dues Bellator · 21-01-2011 01:51PM

Playing capture the flag today , team killed twice by the same guy for my care package , was a bit pssed off , had a look at his profile and he was French , i went mental , followed him around trying to ruin his game , i asked my self why am i doing this , because he"s french the voice in my head said, because he"s french f*ck the care package .

Cork24 · 21-01-2011 01:57PM

I dont Play COD anymore they really F**Ked things up with Black Ops. I am Now a BFBC 2 Vietnam man! you cant beat a game which allows you to blow up just about every thing in the game, some dude behind a wall no problem just blow that Bitching wall up..

The problem with COD i find is too many kids on it just running around like a chicken with no head.. what is the point in that i gets killed i respawn and what do you know some 10 year old kid Screaming down the Mic, while listening to R&B music running around the map with 2 shotguns and killing every one.

hypermuse · 21-01-2011 02:12PM

This is why I dont play MW2 anymore!

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/17/ps3-hackers-make-modern-warfare-2-unplayable-infinity-ward-ca/

Go infinity ward!

Leeg17 · 21-01-2011 02:16PM

Translated as. We get our money, we're lazy, screw you guys!

Cossax · 21-01-2011 04:30PM

Is that not a PS3 issue as much as an IW issue?

+1 for the Xbox. :cool:

iMuse · 21-01-2011 04:40PM

Cossax wrote: »

Is that not a PS3 issue as much as an IW issue?

+1 for the Xbox. :cool:

Guess you never heard of Jtags then?

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