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have you ever stole money from your kids xmas cards

  • 16-01-2011 06:31PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭dollyk


    MYself and my family wre having a get together a few weeks back.
    and it cropped up how much kids get now adays compared to years ago.
    my kids are now in their late and middle 20s.
    anyhow we all got talking and i said how i used to take some of the money that their aunts, uncles etc from their xmas cards and buy foodstuff and extra presents:for xmas with it,
    :eek::eek: my sisters nearly had a stroke, and said they didnt realise, but i had 6 young kids and they didnt need all the money that was sent to them.
    my kids laughed it off and said they never remember going without,
    but now some of my family wont talk to me...
    was i so wrong....:confused:


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    To be fair, that is a horrible thing to do. Open a savings account for the kids and encourage saving from an early age instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    dollyk wrote: »
    was i so wrong....:confused:

    YES!

    /thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    You stole from your own kids!! Shockin.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    To be fair, that is a horrible thing to do. Open a savings account for the kids and encourage saving from an early age instead.

    Harsh, very harsh. 6 happy kids kept happy is a job well done regardless if hook or by crook. Kids can be overly gifted easily by relations and it's the parents job to moderate that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    My parents would never have done that! They asked me for a "loan" after I opened the card :D

    Once they needed to pay the mortgage so me and my brothers had to empty out our bank accounts and give it to them. Never did get that 100 pounds back...

    Stealing it is really wrong though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Could you not have asked them to send you the money instead? That would have been a happy medium. I know it's hard when you're struggling but I wouldn't say it was the best decision, as reasonable as it might have seemed at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    dollyk wrote: »
    MYself and my family wre having a get together a few weeks back.
    and it cropped up how much kids get now adays compared to years ago.
    my kids are now in their late and middle 20s.
    anyhow we all got talking and i said how i used to take some of the money that their aunts, uncles etc from their xmas cards and buy foodstuff and extra presents:for xmas with it,
    :eek::eek: my sisters nearly had a stroke, and said they didnt realise, but i had 6 young kids and they didnt need all the money that was sent to them.
    my kids laughed it off and said they never remember going without,
    but now some of my family wont talk to me...
    was i so wrong....:confused:


    Maybe it wasnt the best idea to tell the people who were sending the money that you took some of it.

    Some things are just not meant to be said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    I would never 'steal' money from my daughter, but I have borrowed money from her if she had money from Christmas or Birthdays. I'd always pay it back to her though........ She's 13 now and is good at saving so half the time she has more money than me:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Trog


    It's not really a bad thing to do if you bought food and presents for the kids with it, unless you could have afforded the stuff anyway and therefore benefited from the children's loss.
    If you took the cash for yourself it's proper wrong.

    Still is a bit unusual, maybe it would be less odd if you took the kids with you to buy the stuff and told them that they were buying it. Like, 'which toy do you want out of this one and this one', or 'now you get to do what mammy/daddy does and buy the messages'. The you wouldn't have to lie to them and they'd get to feel like the got to spend their own money.

    But I wouldn't fault you for what you did. And fair play for raising six happy kids. I'd have just raised 5 to be happy and let the other be the runt of the pack... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    They're your kids, they should be happy that's the least you did. I'm selling the tractor when I have kids, sure they'll be able to plough and give me piggybacks to the pub.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    dollyk wrote: »
    MYself and my family wre having a get together a few weeks back.
    and it cropped up how much kids get now adays compared to years ago.
    my kids are now in their late and middle 20s.
    anyhow we all got talking and i said how i used to take some of the money that their aunts, uncles etc from their xmas cards and buy foodstuff and extra presents:for xmas with it,
    :eek::eek: my sisters nearly had a stroke, and said they didnt realise, but i had 6 young kids and they didnt need all the money that was sent to them.
    my kids laughed it off and said they never remember going without,
    but now some of my family wont talk to me...
    was i so wrong....:confused:

    No you were not wrong, you spent it on them.

    Tell your family to grow up and cop on. Im sure the are not perfect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Trog


    dollyk wrote: »
    but now some of my family wont talk to me...

    I'm gonna need some kids and some Christmas cards...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Its not as if the OP spent the money on cheap beer and loose women .
    Bit harsh for some of the family not to be talking .

    Keep your mouth shut next time .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    hang on...there's normally money in Christmas cards???

    MA!!! WTF!!!:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    To be fair, that is a horrible thing to do. Open a savings account for the kids and encourage saving from an early age instead.


    The OP did say it was over 20 years ago so things were different then. It is not horrible to make better use of the money in a way that is more beneficial to the family.

    What is horrible is the way the OP's family are reacting now.

    I agree with encouraging saving at an early age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Trog


    mixednuts wrote: »
    Its not as if the OP spent the money on cheap beer and loose women

    You trying to say that'd be wrong? Coke n Hookers please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    not ur money to use.. totally wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Jesus christ everyone's making it sound like he's a criminal, he took 50 quid from his kids, big whoop, it's not like they owe their parents anything in the long run :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    I remember as a child that my parents would 'borrow' some of what money we may have gotten for Christmas/Birthdays etc...I dont ever recall them paying it back. But at the end of the day, they dressed, fed & clothed us so I dont really see It as a big deal.
    My own son has a piggy bank that counts the coins and he knows very well how much he has,If I was short some days yes I would borrow from it but I always put it back with 'interest'. At the end of the day Its me that puts the money in!! When it gets to a certain amount we lodge it into his account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭mydearwatson


    Well of course your siblings are going to be p*ssed off about it.

    They made the decision, at the time, to give the money directly to the children and not to give it to you, to do with it as you wished. Perhaps they were aware you were struggling, but wanted their nieces/nephews to have a little treat for themselves.

    I know that, with my communion and confirmation money, my parents put it in a savings account. Then, when I was a teenager and wanted to go to the Gaelteacht and on school tours abroad, the money was there for that. My parents were never well off, but they denied themselves a lot in order to ensure that we never missed out on any opportunities as we were growing up. It felt nice, at the time, to feel as though I was "paying my way" a little bit. :)

    Obviously, it's too late saying this to you in retrospect, but it would've been nice to have them aware of the gifts given to them, and then to "allow" them to pay towards a holiday, or a new TV for the family, or a school tour, something like that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Whatever about using the money from the cards to feed your family, but you post on After Hours looking for advice on morality?!? :confused:


    Don't you know everyone here is beyond reproach :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Also I like how everyone is neglecting the part where he says he used the money for food and additional presents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭vonnie10


    I got a birthday card from an uncle one time with 25 pound in it one time that disappeared mysteriously. My mam said my dad might have taken it and my dad said my mam had probably borrowed it !! Never got it back but it doesn't matter considering the thousands they have spent on me over the years between toys clothes, food, school, holidays, 2k for braces, college and even money for nights out on the piss!! I'm 20 now and i'm still drawing out of them. I'd say i've probably cost them close to 100 grand in all, taking a few pound from me here and there to put food in my mouth if times are tight is hardly a crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    I wouldn't worry about it too much OP. Any time I would give money to my nieces or nephews I would hope that it is spent on things they actually need, food, clothes toys etc. If the child has control over it they will probably just waste it. When they are old enough they will start to manage and budget themselves but quite often they are just too young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,490 ✭✭✭Fluorescence


    Trog wrote: »
    IStill is a bit unusual, maybe it would be less odd if you took the kids with you to buy the stuff and told them that they were buying it. Like, 'which toy do you want out of this one and this one', or 'now you get to do what mammy/daddy does and buy the messages'. The you wouldn't have to lie to them and they'd get to feel like the got to spend their own money.

    I would have been pissed if my mam and dad got me to "pay" for the messages with my birthday/christmas money when I was a kid (not that I ever got much....HANG ON....).

    She used it to buy more stuff for the children. No harm done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    The ones that won't talk to you need a slap in the head.

    Kids get what they get and be glad of it. You did your best and the kids grew up happy and healthy.

    No-one was harmed. Kids get what possesions their parents see fit, if the family needs it more then that's the end of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    dollyk wrote: »
    was i so wrong....:confused:

    Yes, whatever way you look at it it's still stealing money from your kids which is pretty low


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    dollyk wrote: »
    but now some of my family wont talk to me...

    Unfortunately you cant choose your family:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    Can`t believe anyone would do this! If you can`t afford kids eh...don`t have them pretty simple to me.

    Please God may I never see the day when I have to take money of my children (when I can eventually afford to have them)!

    This would involve an extremely unlikely scenario, over which I would have no control, -death, destruction, end of our econmic system as we know it etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Once when I lived in a house in Carlow birthday cards used to arrive for the people that had presumably lived there before us.

    We had no forwarding address for them and the landlord didn't know where they'd gone.

    So there was the odd 10 or 20 euro added to my burgeoning alcohol dependency fund every now and then.

    I feel no shame for this.


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