Fianna Fáil Leadership Challenge Underway

gandalf · 13-01-2011 03:18PM

Nehaxak wrote: »

Or...the whole thing could be just a ruse to show FF as a strong party and that Cowen has come through with flying colours from another challenge from a select few.

Shall wait and see...

The damage to FF has been done now with the latest revelations. The question their current sitting TD's need to ask themselves is if they want this pariah leading them into the next General Election given what appears to be his special relationship with leading lights of the Bank that ended up helping to break the country.

I can't imagine those who will be contesting the next GE relishing the bile they will face on the doorsteps if Cowen continues leading them given his disastrous tenure as Minister for Finance and Taoiseach. At least if he is gone they can deflect some of the anger they will face.

zig · 13-01-2011 03:19PM

he said he wont be resigning, so possibly a motion put next week?
Just reported on Newstalk

godtabh · 13-01-2011 03:20PM

Biggins wrote: »

LOL
...Love your signature by the way Godtabh.

You're probably the first person to read it.

Following another indo report on twitter and he says he is gone but hasnt put it on twitter as the indo is looking for an exclusive. All hearsay

Biggins · 13-01-2011 03:22PM

zig wrote: »

he said he wont be resigning, so possibly a motion put next week?
Just reported on Newstalk

If thats all that will happen then its back to normal.
FF drag things out as long as possible, the Greens stick to them like glue and the opposition forced to wait yet again...

ArtSmart · 13-01-2011 03:23PM

newstalk saying he wont go, unless he's pushed. (hard to believe, doubt this)

and pushed he will be.

thomasj · 13-01-2011 03:23PM

godtabh wrote: »

Interesting

Oh come on! We know what happened the last time this came out!

PeterIanStaker · 13-01-2011 03:24PM

He really is a stubborn get isn't he? Bertie (and I detest him) knew when to weasel his way out right on cue nearly.

bcmf · 13-01-2011 03:25PM

from twitter @breakfastnt- Senior Gov Sources-Taoiseach is not resigning, gone into PP meeting to fight

godtabh · 13-01-2011 03:26PM

bcmf wrote: »

from twitter @breakfastnt- Senior Gov Sources-Taoiseach is not resigning, gone into PP meeting to fight

**** sake.

He is like the career criminal caught red handed but still denies it

bcmf · 13-01-2011 03:31PM

Am I alone in getting the feeling he will survive this.......

Biggins · 13-01-2011 03:31PM

godtabh wrote: »

**** sake.

He is like the career criminal caught red handed but still denies it

All sounds familiar!

...Like Haughty at the end.

...Like Bertie at the end.

Next up ladies and gentlemen...

thomasj · 13-01-2011 03:32PM

bcmf wrote: »

Am I alone in getting the feeling he will survive this.......

Certainly not! I hear you and am with you on this one

Tabnabs · 13-01-2011 03:35PM

"you can have my gun leadership when you prise it from my cold dead hands" springs to mind.

godtabh · 13-01-2011 03:35PM

Biggins wrote: »

All sounds familiar!

...Like Haughty at the end.

...Like Bertie at the end.

Next up ladies and gentlemen...

Lenihan i'd say has a grave yard full of skeletons in is closet. I'm not sure how much the others have but they have them.

If you make corruption easy people will be corrupt.

The only way that FF could survive in the future is do a New Labour job on it but I dont there is any one in the party to do it.

gandalf · 13-01-2011 03:35PM

bcmf wrote: »

Am I alone in getting the feeling he will survive this.......

I am hoping he does because with him at the helm for the GE FF are well and truly sunk. A bit like the way he has sunk our economy.

Biggins · 13-01-2011 03:35PM

bcmf wrote: »

Am I alone in getting the feeling he will survive this.......

Part of me is hoping he will, if only to bring down the rest because of him staying.

Dannyboy83 · 13-01-2011 03:40PM

Cowen 'not resigning'

surprise, surprise.

On the bright side, this massively damages any chance Fianna Fail had a recovering before the election

Biggins · 13-01-2011 03:42PM

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

...On the bright side, this massively damages any chance Fianna Fail had a recovering before the election

I have a four letter word to say to that:

Good!

thomasj · 13-01-2011 03:42PM

If sinn fein does bring about this no confidence vote, anyone who does plan on hanging around after the next election should seriously think about this vote because the voters may not forget it!

godtabh · 13-01-2011 03:43PM

What means can be used to get rid of him without him resigning?

Other than a vote of no confidence is there anything else?

ParkRunner · 13-01-2011 03:43PM

I just heard he had stepped down, from a friend in the Dail!

maynooth_rules · 13-01-2011 03:43PM

He has a neck like a jockeys sack. I am glad of it though. Bring down the party with him. No surprise that nobody in FF will show the back bone to launch a heave against the guy. Shows the utter lack of credible TDs in that stinking party.

ilovesleep · 13-01-2011 03:43PM

Biggins wrote: »

Part of me is hoping he will, if only to bring down the rest because of him staying.

Agree with this. Cowen will bring down all of FF with him which is what we need - all of FF to go.

Where is SF when we need violence. Hope they are gathering up an army to remove FF good and proper.

scr123 · 13-01-2011 03:45PM

I am staunch FF and if I was as worried about what is happening right now in FF as the ABFF are I would be looking for medication !

ThisRegard · 13-01-2011 03:45PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

Where is SF when we need violence. Hope they are gathering up an army to remove FF good and proper.

:rolleyes: There's nothing much more you can say about that post really.

Biggins · 13-01-2011 03:46PM

scr123 wrote: »

I am staunch FF...

Well there's a newsflash! :pac:

maynooth_rules · 13-01-2011 03:47PM

scr123 wrote: »

I am staunch FF and if I was as worried about what is happening right now in FF as the ABFF are I would be looking for medication !

**** that phrase 'staunch FF' annoys me. Surely you should be staunch nobody and vote for a party whos policies you agree with, rather than using the staunch FF/FG/SF or anyone else

godtabh · 13-01-2011 03:50PM

maynooth_rules wrote: »

**** that phrase 'staunch FF' annoys me. Surely you should be staunch nobody and vote for a party whos policies you agree with, rather than using the staunch FF/FG/SF or anyone else

People dont vote for policy. If they did we wouldnt be here

gandalf · 13-01-2011 03:50PM

maynooth_rules wrote: »

**** that phrase 'staunch FF' annoys me. Surely you should be staunch nobody and vote for a party whos policies you agree with, rather than using the staunch FF/FG/SF or anyone else

Why does that surprise you. They are nearly a cult. How people can support a party that has meted financial Armageddon on this country is beyond me. But lo and behold around 20% are remaining loyal.

deise go deo · 13-01-2011 03:50PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

Agree with this. Cowen will bring down all of FF with him which is what we need - all of FF to go.

Where is SF when we need violence. Hope they are gathering up an army to remove FF good and proper.

Ya, because violence is the solution to our problems, :rolleyes:

FF are going, they may be taking their time about it, but they will be gone in a few short months.

Fianna Fáil Leadership Challenge Underway

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