Fianna Fail efforts to oust Cowen underway

brianthebard wrote: »

All those things were policies, which even if you disagree with them are what he's supposed to do. There's a heavy scent of illegality surrounding this game of golf however which he is not supposed to do. The fact that there might be a push against him by the party on this issue makes the questions of legality appear even stronger.

Look, the fact of the matter is that no wrongdoing or inappropriate conversation was brought tolight by the fact that two men in high powered positions played glof together. Neither was there anything wrong in Cowen not telling the public about a golf match. He's entitled to a social life, and even though it's not the best PR idea to be seen socialising with the head of a bank which then failed and needed bailing out, he's still entitled to have all the games of golf he wants with him.

Capt'n:
Did he make the decision on the golf course? It's irrelevant. What's relevant is that he made the decision and it was the wrong decision. There's enough there to kick him out on legitemate political grounds.

Brian: He's supposed to make policies, but he's supposed to make the right policies, which, as leader of the country, he failed to do. There's a whiff of illegality to the golf, but until proof turns up it remains a whiff. Rumor has no place in politics. Bad policy does.

Generally:
If we (or rather our representatives) are not willing to kick someone out based on political issues, but are willing to kick them out based on who they socialise with then we've failed as a political vehicle.
Even if the decision was based in a corrupt agreement with Seanie, we still shouldn't need to know that to see that it has turned out to be a terrible decision politically.

Politics is for the people to decide on, law is for the courts.

All deposing him and getting someone else to step up will do is stall and delay the general election, it's moving the chairs about on the Titanic.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Did he agree to help out Anglo Irish while on the gold course ?
That's the €43,000,000,000.00 question.

I now divulge that there was a James Bond versus Goldfinger golf match for very high stakes.

maglite wrote: »

How long would you have to be Taoiseach to get a pension?

As I understand it, he will receive a full pension if he clings on until the end of March and completes a term. That explains all the election dates floated, and this sh'te about maintaining unity for Paddy's day. After all that has been done to the people, Cowen can still only think only of himself - a true Fianna Fail man, for sure.

Thaedydal wrote: »

All deposing him and getting someone else to step up will do is stall and delay the general election, it's moving the chairs about on the Titanic.

This.

If they wanted to get rid of him they would have done it quite a while ago. This is another ridiculous tactic to further prolong a GE. How out of touch can you be to try and fool people with this crap?