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Fianna Fail efforts to oust Cowen underway

  • 13-01-2011 02:16AM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭


    There saying over on politics.ie that Newstalk is likely to report that Brian Lenihan and Micheal Martin have made some sort of agreement, with at least 20 Fianna Fail TDs expected to support a motion to have Cowen removed as leader.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,954 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Do they have the rocket capacity powerful enough to lift Biffo into outer space - to be ejected from our solar system permanently?

    And then for all the FFers to follow suit...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    There saying over on politics.ie that Newstalk is likely to report that Brian Lenihan and Micheal Martin have made some sort of agreement, with at least 20 Fianna Fail TDs expected to support a motion to have Cowen removed as leader.

    There's the problem(s).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    If he is ousted or resigns surely they will have to call a election straight away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭jd007


    I heard they're planning an assassination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭ger664


    Why would they want to do that, who would want to be the leader the returns them with there worst election result. they'll leave biffo in place until after the eletion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭NoHornJan


    He doesn't need any other FF'ers help.

    He's doing a great job of ousting himself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    ger664 wrote: »
    Why would they want to do that, who would want to be the leader the returns them with there worst election result. they'll leave biffo in place until after the eletion.

    Why wouldn't they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    From what I'm hearing the Greens are planning on retracting support next week unless something changes with Cowen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    If he is ousted or resigns surely they will have to call a election straight away.


    No.

    The Taoiseach is voted in by the government, not the people.

    That's how Cowen got the job when Ahern stepped down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    OisinT wrote: »
    From what I'm hearing the Greens are planning on retracting support next week unless something changes with Cowen.

    Like a new hairstyle?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,717 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Just watching the shows on the TV tonight, it was absolutely a new pathetic low for FF..... wheeling out Mansergh and Frank Fahy to defend Cowan.. after having Noel Dempsey and Tony Killeen yesterday... defending him unconditionally as one would a king (or a fuhrer)

    There have been WAAAAY too many fcukups on Cowans part. He should have been gone after "gargle-gate"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    He'll go back into the film industry when he steps down and probably do a re-make of his last film, The Elephant Man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    How long would you have to be Taoiseach to get a pension?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Trog


    The Greens have consistently held that they're retracting support once the finance bill is passed. FF need someone to step up to the plate and lead them to loss in the next election. That's why Cowen's still in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    maglite wrote: »
    How long would you have to be Taoiseach to get a pension?

    Don't know about the pension, but after one day of being Taoiseach and he'll get a merc, a driver and garda protection for the rest of his life. He's only 51 now, quite a young ex-Taoiseach, so decades of that will add up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭Irish Wolf


    maglite wrote: »
    How long would you have to be Taoiseach to get a pension?

    Probably best to ask the Greens, they seem to have the system down with rotating ministers so they'd get the ministerial pensions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    There saying over on politics.ie that Newstalk is likely to report that Brian Lenihan and Micheal Martin have made some sort of agreement, with at least 20 Fianna Fail TDs expected to support a motion to have Cowen removed as leader.

    Same shit, different shovel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    If he is ousted or resigns surely they will have to call a election straight away.

    If anything it would be more likely for the government to finish its term.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭thenutflush


    Don't know about the pension, but after one day of being Taoiseach and he'll get a merc, a driver and garda protection for the rest of his life. He's only 51 now, quite a young ex-Taoiseach, so decades of that will add up.

    His dad died just before turning 52, according to wikipedia, so he might be predisposed to an early death...he'd want to start looking after his health or he wont make it to 60...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Like a new hairstyle?
    THey've suggested he start by taking the marbles out of his mouth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    jd007 wrote: »
    I heard they're planning an assassination.

    Hopefullly it happens..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    There saying over on politics.ie that Newstalk is likely to report that Brian Lenihan and Micheal Martin have made some sort of agreement, with at least 20 Fianna Fail TDs expected to support a motion to have Cowen removed as leader.
    yeah, reckon the jig is up meself. caught off-guard by SF. who'd a thunk it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    If anything it would be more likely for the government to finish its term.
    ha ha. i know FF have balls that a frozen monkey would envy, but ha ha ha LOL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Trog


    You know what pisses me off? All the things to go after Cowen about since he became Taoiseach, and it's a game of golf that does the trick. Why couldn't this have happened over a real issue? Like the bank bailout or NAMA or pretty much any major decision he's made?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    His dad died just before turning 52, according to wikipedia, so he might be predisposed to an early death...he'd want to start looking after his health or he wont make it to 60...

    I'm still getting over the surprise of hearing that he was 51 on Monday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Trog wrote: »
    You know what pisses me off? All the things to go after Cowen about since he became Taoiseach, and it's a game of golf that does the trick. Why couldn't this have happened over a real issue? Like the bank bailout or NAMA or pretty much any major decision he's made?

    All those things were policies, which even if you disagree with them are what he's supposed to do. There's a heavy scent of illegality surrounding this game of golf however which he is not supposed to do. The fact that there might be a push against him by the party on this issue makes the questions of legality appear even stronger.
    ArtSmart wrote: »
    ha ha. i know FF have balls that a frozen monkey would envy, but ha ha ha LOL.

    I can definitely see a new leader being able to settle a few green party fears, tell them they can come out with a u-turn announcement that now that Cowen is gone the coalition is back on track, and try and convince the greens to stay on for another six months to a year, at which point they'll tack on another six months to a year and the term is up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Well good riddance to him..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Trog wrote: »
    You know what pisses me off? All the things to go after Cowen about since he became Taoiseach, and it's a game of golf that does the trick. Why couldn't this have happened over a real issue? Like the bank bailout or NAMA or pretty much any major decision he's made?
    Did he agree to help out Anglo Irish while on the gold course ?
    That's the €43,000,000,000.00 question.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    agree to help out Anglo Irish while on the gold course

    QFT.


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