The difference between "t" and "th", is it so difficult????

Condatis · 10-01-2011 05:41PM

Originally Posted by Condatis
It's now worse than reading your post; replete as it is with errors of style, grammar and typography.

Correct usage of English is as important in the written form as in the spoken form

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

Incorrect usage seems to be contagious...

That's the 'Dort' enunciation don't you now.

Ruu_Old · 10-01-2011 05:42PM

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????

and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

I'll give you a good trashing! :mad:

Fratton Fred · 10-01-2011 05:43PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarfeast?

Near Lahndan, innit.

GTE · 10-01-2011 05:43PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

In before the turty-tree.

and a turd.

Johro · 10-01-2011 05:46PM

Oh_Noes wrote: »

Today I saw an English guy on TV pronounce the word "car" and he didn't pronounce the R!

It sounded like he said "caw" !

I was shocked and outraged.

Cockneys don't pronounce their l's or r's, they seem to become w's, as in milk becoming 'miwk' , talk becoming tawk and things like footbaww, Miwwwaww (Millwall:D), gehw (girl), and 'get out'a da facking cahw!'
Strangely, 'the law' seems to involve an 'r'.:rolleyes:

Johro · 10-01-2011 05:47PM

bbk wrote: »

and a turd.

Richard the Third or Dick the Sh!t?:D

Johro · 10-01-2011 05:51PM

I taut i taw a puddytat..

Wibbs · 10-01-2011 05:51PM

It's both from dropping aitches and the fear of dropping them and appearing "common". Dis and dat in the former case and Height(h) and throat(h) in the latter. Their and they're etc is common enough around here. One that really grinds my gears and seems to be a regular one on Boards is "then" instead of "than". IE "I'm cooler then you". What's weird about that one is it's usually smart people doing it.

pickarooney · 10-01-2011 05:53PM

Johro wrote: »

Fair enough, looked like you were referring to Dutch words beginning with 'th'. Which would be pronounced 't'. My bad. I'll take the fifty lashes and carry on regardless. We're hardy.

Keihard, jongen.

Johro · 10-01-2011 05:55PM

Feck, I passed the tousand mark in posts and never even noticed til now:eek:
Tick or what? :rolleyes:

Johro · 10-01-2011 05:56PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Keihard, jongen.

You know it.;)

Johro · 10-01-2011 06:00PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarfeast?

Awwigh'?:D

ejmaztec · 10-01-2011 06:17PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Near Lahndan, innit.

Ear, I fought you wuz fwum portsmuff?

mike65 · 10-01-2011 06:21PM

Next on After Hours - the "I took/I brought" controversy.

BengaLover · 10-01-2011 06:22PM

Ray Darcy is always doing that.. I cant bear to listen to him..

Fratton Fred · 10-01-2011 06:29PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Ear, I fought you wuz fwum portsmuff?

I was born in Portsmuff mush, grew up near slough or sluff as we call it.

10-01-2011 06:52PM

VERYinterested wrote: »

When did 'today' become two words?

I think at one stage they were spelled to-day and to-morrow.

10-01-2011 07:00PM

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

ejmaztec · 10-01-2011 07:05PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I was born in Portsmuff mush, grew up near slough or sluff as we call it.

That's where the Brummies go for dancing lessons "slough, slough, quick quick, slough"

Wibbs · 10-01-2011 07:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

Really? I would have thought that there are less examples of a hard T than a soft T(th). Irish speakers help me out here.

sonic85 · 10-01-2011 07:10PM

cool thread. who gives a flying fcuk seriously? if somebody doesnt pronounce ths or whatever you can still understand whats being said cant you?

10-01-2011 07:17PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Really? I would have thought that there are less examples of a hard T than a soft T(th). Irish speakers help me out here.

"Th" in Irish is pronounced as a "h" sound. For example, "tháinig", spelled phoenetically in English would be something like "hawnig".

Owenw · 10-01-2011 07:46PM

mike65 wrote: »

Next on After Hours - the "I took/I brought" controversy.

Now, would that be a CONTRO-versy or con-TROV-ersy?

Its interesting how people type words however they pronounce them and miss typos due, IMO, to a combination of typing replies too quickly, laziness/carelessness, not listening in school and the relatively low resolution of PC monitors 72dpi (mac) / 96dpi (win) compared to printed text >300dpi.

TL;DR version: a monkey could type betterer than you!

10-01-2011 08:03PM

Oh yeah don't forget your tyre "thread"

spurious · 10-01-2011 08:17PM

The 'th' sounds as said by Irish people is not a 't' as in 'tick' sound. It's another sound altogether, a palatised 't' - somewhere between the 't' of tick (insect) and the 'th' of thick (as said by English person.

It's a different sound altogether which many from other countries incorrectly hear as 't'.

It's the 't' sound as in 'tusa' in Irish.

We also have a palatised 'd' as in 'doras' in Irish. We use it for 'the'.

They do though, don't they?

Scuid Mhór · 10-01-2011 08:31PM

not being able to say the 'th' sound didn't bother me for most of my early life, but when it came to doing drama, people were always badgering me about it but i just cannot make it part of how i speak. it's becoming increasingly annoying knowing that i haven't trained myself to speak that way but i talk super fast which means that i slow down a lot if i have to think about proper pronunciations. i think i'm going to have to start focusing on it now though as i want to start a band and be the lead singer.

don't really care about how other people speak so long as i can understand them.

m@cc@ · 10-01-2011 08:44PM

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...)

I've put a closing bracket in for you there. Continue.

orourkeda · 10-01-2011 09:34PM

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????

and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

Equally annoying and just as prevalent are the people who pronounce it as frilled.

carfiosaoorl · 10-01-2011 09:36PM

Oh_Noes wrote: »

Today I saw an English guy on TV pronounce the word "car" and he didn't pronounce the R!

It sounded like he said "caw" !

I was shocked and outraged.

My son had to see a speech therapist a few years ago (he couldnt pronounce the letter C ). She showed him a picture of a car and said "This is a Caw, say Caw":eek:

Thats what you get with a medical card:rolleyes:

orourkeda · 10-01-2011 09:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

Thats odd considering irish isnt exactly the most widely spoken of languages

The difference between "t" and "th", is it so difficult????

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