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The difference between "t" and "th", is it so difficult????

summerskin

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????

and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

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Condatis

Originally Posted by Condatis
It's now worse than reading your post; replete as it is with errors of style, grammar and typography.

Correct usage of English is as important in the written form as in the spoken form

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

Incorrect usage seems to be contagious...

That's the 'Dort' enunciation don't you now.

Ruu_Old

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????

and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

I'll give you a good trashing! :mad:

Fratton Fred

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarfeast?

Near Lahndan, innit.

GTE

ejmaztec wrote: »

In before the turty-tree.

and a turd.

Johro

Oh_Noes wrote: »

Today I saw an English guy on TV pronounce the word "car" and he didn't pronounce the R!

It sounded like he said "caw" !

I was shocked and outraged.

Cockneys don't pronounce their l's or r's, they seem to become w's, as in milk becoming 'miwk' , talk becoming tawk and things like footbaww, Miwwwaww (Millwall:D), gehw (girl), and 'get out'a da facking cahw!'
Strangely, 'the law' seems to involve an 'r'.:rolleyes:

Johro

bbk wrote: »

and a turd.

Richard the Third or Dick the Sh!t?:D

Johro

I taut i taw a puddytat..

Wibbs

It's both from dropping aitches and the fear of dropping them and appearing "common". Dis and dat in the former case and Height(h) and throat(h) in the latter. Their and they're etc is common enough around here. One that really grinds my gears and seems to be a regular one on Boards is "then" instead of "than". IE "I'm cooler then you". What's weird about that one is it's usually smart people doing it.

pickarooney

Johro wrote: »

Fair enough, looked like you were referring to Dutch words beginning with 'th'. Which would be pronounced 't'. My bad. I'll take the fifty lashes and carry on regardless. We're hardy.

Keihard, jongen.

Johro

Feck, I passed the tousand mark in posts and never even noticed til now:eek:
Tick or what? :rolleyes:

Johro

pickarooney wrote: »

Keihard, jongen.

You know it.;)

Johro

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarfeast?

Awwigh'?:D

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Near Lahndan, innit.

Ear, I fought you wuz fwum portsmuff?

mike65

Next on After Hours - the "I took/I brought" controversy.

BengaLover

Ray Darcy is always doing that.. I cant bear to listen to him..

Fratton Fred

ejmaztec wrote: »

Ear, I fought you wuz fwum portsmuff?

I was born in Portsmuff mush, grew up near slough or sluff as we call it.

[Deleted User]

VERYinterested wrote: »

When did 'today' become two words?

I think at one stage they were spelled to-day and to-morrow.

[Deleted User]

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I was born in Portsmuff mush, grew up near slough or sluff as we call it.

That's where the Brummies go for dancing lessons "slough, slough, quick quick, slough"

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

Really? I would have thought that there are less examples of a hard T than a soft T(th). Irish speakers help me out here.

sonic85

cool thread. who gives a flying fcuk seriously? if somebody doesnt pronounce ths or whatever you can still understand whats being said cant you?

[Deleted User]

Wibbs wrote: »

Really? I would have thought that there are less examples of a hard T than a soft T(th). Irish speakers help me out here.

"Th" in Irish is pronounced as a "h" sound. For example, "tháinig", spelled phoenetically in English would be something like "hawnig".

Owenw

mike65 wrote: »

Next on After Hours - the "I took/I brought" controversy.

Now, would that be a CONTRO-versy or con-TROV-ersy?

Its interesting how people type words however they pronounce them and miss typos due, IMO, to a combination of typing replies too quickly, laziness/carelessness, not listening in school and the relatively low resolution of PC monitors 72dpi (mac) / 96dpi (win) compared to printed text >300dpi.

TL;DR version: a monkey could type betterer than you!

[Deleted User]

Oh yeah don't forget your tyre "thread"

spurious

The 'th' sounds as said by Irish people is not a 't' as in 'tick' sound. It's another sound altogether, a palatised 't' - somewhere between the 't' of tick (insect) and the 'th' of thick (as said by English person.

It's a different sound altogether which many from other countries incorrectly hear as 't'.

It's the 't' sound as in 'tusa' in Irish.

We also have a palatised 'd' as in 'doras' in Irish. We use it for 'the'.

They do though, don't they?

Scuid Mhór

not being able to say the 'th' sound didn't bother me for most of my early life, but when it came to doing drama, people were always badgering me about it but i just cannot make it part of how i speak. it's becoming increasingly annoying knowing that i haven't trained myself to speak that way but i talk super fast which means that i slow down a lot if i have to think about proper pronunciations. i think i'm going to have to start focusing on it now though as i want to start a band and be the lead singer.

don't really care about how other people speak so long as i can understand them.

m@cc@

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...)

I've put a closing bracket in for you there. Continue.

orourkeda

summerskin wrote: »

So far today i have either heard or read the following(mainly read, and on here, which makes it worse...

"I will be trilled" it's THRILLED!
"Seal their faith" Seal their FATE!
"That thrumps all the others" TRUMPS!!!!!
and of course the classic..
"I have a sore troath" THROAT!!!!!!!!

It does my head in! Surely it's not that (or should I say "tath") difficult?????

and then i go and spell "between" wrong in the thread title.... assmonkey.

Equally annoying and just as prevalent are the people who pronounce it as frilled.

carfiosaoorl

Oh_Noes wrote: »

Today I saw an English guy on TV pronounce the word "car" and he didn't pronounce the R!

It sounded like he said "caw" !

I was shocked and outraged.

My son had to see a speech therapist a few years ago (he couldnt pronounce the letter C ). She showed him a picture of a car and said "This is a Caw, say Caw":eek:

Thats what you get with a medical card:rolleyes:

orourkeda

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a theory that the reason Irish people are so bad at pronouncing the "th" sound is because there is no equivalent sound in the Irish language.

Thats odd considering irish isnt exactly the most widely spoken of languages