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How are murdered bodies ever found?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Oh crap, I just buried the last one in snow:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    Joggers always find them,, hmm does anyone ever question the joggers ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Retail Hell


    One thing I've noticed on the thread is that Lime has not been mentioned when talking about desposing of a body or body parts.
    If you pour lime on the body or body parts (White Powder available from Builders merchants, not the little green fruit for your drinks) it will start to eat away at the body, but also reduce the smell of the decomp, of the body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    (White Powder available from Builders merchants, not the little green fruit for your drinks).

    Thanks for clearing that up, i was going to have a celebratory cocktail party with the leftovers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Retail Hell


    Or we could just ask Larry Murphy what he did with the Bodies! :eek::eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Except if the acid is strong enough to break down bone - it's also strong enough to burn through the bath....not that I've thought about it loike....

    <.<

    >.>

    Negative. Concentrated Nitric, Sulphuric or Hydrochloric acid will burn through skin or bone yet can be kept in a glass bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Negative. Concentrated Nitric, Sulphuric or Hydrochloric acid will burn through skin or bone yet can be kept in a glass bottle.

    Concentrated NaOH would probably do a bit of damage too.

    I think the easiest idea is take the body to a farm and chuck it into the slurry pit. No disturbed ground, no detectable smell, no visible problem, no chance of canine intervention and it is very unlikely that the pit will be drained before the organic acids and microbiological activity have given a good effort.

    Chemistry, farming and sales: I'm just pure evil :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭mawk


    put it in a suitcase, get on the ferry, dump the body in wales or scotland or france. its probably unlikely the local cops would call up the irish cops to ask about missing people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    One thing I've noticed on the thread is that Lime has not been mentioned when talking about desposing of a body or body parts.
    If you pour lime on the body or body parts (White Powder available from Builders merchants, not the little green fruit for your drinks) it will start to eat away at the body, but also reduce the smell of the decomp, of the body.

    This study says different Far different


    http://archlab.uindy.edu/documents/theses/ThewHAAbstract.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    mawk wrote: »
    put it in a suitcase, get on the ferry, dump the body in wales or scotland or france. its probably unlikely the local cops would call up the irish cops to ask about missing people

    Apparently if a body is thrown into the arctic, it won't come back up, because the enzymes that create the gasses causing dead bodies to return to the surface can't work in freezing conditions...


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  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I like the Wales idea... Disfigure the body, finger prints and gums to make the whole thing alot harder to solve from a different country. Then again, if you're known to the victim, it'd be spotted instantly by the guards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Im actually getting a dog next week so i can find more boddies. that alter of skulls is nearly done.

    Youd swear murderers have never seen weekend at bernies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    the Corleone Mafia used to dissolve their victims in a barrell of acid then when the body has dissolved they on occasion poured the remains into the water system in neighbouring Palermo meaning with whom they were feuding with the Mafia from there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭ChopShop


    Like Bill Bailey said:

    Awful suspicious how it's always a jogger who finds the bodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    • Put body in barrel
    • Pour in cement
    • Let dry
    • Bury / dump barrel in a remote location like the sea

    Then you can be back home in time for tea.

    OR you could replace cement with acid and pour them down the drain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    • Put body in barrel
    • Pour in cement
    • Let dry
    • Bury / dump barrel in a remote location like the sea
    Then you can be back home in time for tea.

    OR you could replace cement with acid and pour them down the drain.

    Might have a bit of trouble carrying a barrel full of concrete and a man. Better to put him in a barrell and smear the outside with poo. Then you can leave it anywhere, no one will touch a barrell covered in poo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Ah nuts


    Above all remember to remove Celtic jerseys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Might have a bit of trouble carrying a barrel full of concrete and a man. Better to put him in a barrell and smear the outside with poo. Then you can leave it anywhere, no one will touch a barrell covered in poo

    Oh, obviously it would be a bit of a group effort. In times when we need to thin the herd in our group of "friends", sort of thing.

    I like the poo idea, though. The smell would work especially if you put some brown dye in the concrete to make it look like a barrel of poo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Oh, obviously it would be a bit of a group effort. In times when we need to thin the herd in our group of "friends", sort of thing.

    I like the poo idea, though. The smell would work especially if you put some brown dye in the concrete to make it look like a barrel of poo.

    Or if you had none, or just killed your only friend you could dig directly under the barrell untill it is completely submerged.

    also...anyone ever taken a really close look at scarecrows?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    CorkMan wrote: »
    First, be smart from the very beginning. Pulverize all teeth, burn off fingerprints, and disfigure the face. Forcing a DNA test to establish identity (if it ever comes to that) might introduce the legal/forensic hurdle that saves your ass down the line. An unidentifiable body can, in a pinch, be dressed in thrift store clothes and dropped in a bad part of town where the police are less likely to question it. I don't reommend that disposal method, I'm just saying an easily identifiable body is an even bigger threat than the opposite.

    Assuming you have it inside a house where you can work on it a bit, the first thing you want to do is drain it of fluids. This will make it easier to cut up, and slow decomposition a little bit. The best way to do this quick and dirty is to perforate the body with a pointed knife, and then perform CPR on it. Cut the fronts of the thighs deep, diagonally, to slit the femoral arteries. Then pump the chest. The valves in the heart will still work when dead, and the springback of the ribcage can put apply a fair amount of suction to the artria. Do this in a tub. Plug the drain, and mingle lots of bleach with the bodily fluids before unplugging the drain to empty the tub. This should help control the stench of death, which would otherwise reek from your gutter gratings. Do everything you can to control odors. Plug in an ionizer, burn candles, leave bowls of baking soda everywhere. Ventilate the room in the middle of the night, but otherwise keep it closed. Keep the body under a plastic sheet while it's in the tub.

    If you want to bury, I recommend seperating the body into several parts, and burying them seperately. For one thing, it's easier to dig a deep enough hole for a head than for an entire body. this reduces your chances of being discovered while you are actually outside and digging the grave.
    That is the one thing you can't do inside the doors of your house, and represents a vulnerable moment you want to keep brief, under 2 hours. Do it between 3 and 5 am. It's also less likely for someone to call the police if their dog digs up some chunk of meat, than if they dig up an enitre body. They may assume it's an animal carcass disfigured by decomposition, and leave it alone or dispose of it. It's also more likely that the dog will consume all of it before anyone knows the difference. A whole skeleton is another story. You can cut a body into 6 pieces faster than you think. It's not much different than boning a chicken, but it takes more work, a big knife, and time. A hammer will be useful for pulverizing joints or driving the knife deep where it doesn't want to go. Anyway it's wise to crush as much of the skeleton as you can along the way. It will aid in making the body less identifiable for what it is as it decomposes.

    Don't return to the same site 6 times for 6 burials.You'll attract suspicion from anyone nearby, and you'll wind up placing the body parts close enough together to be found by any serious investigation. Put them in plastic bags with lots of bleach, and store in a freezer until you have enough time to bury them all.

    Depending on what tools you have available, you may find that you're get really good at deconstructing the body. You might prefer to slowly sprinkle it down a drain without leaving your house. This avoids the long-term risk of discovery associated with burial, and the overwhelming supply of bacteria in a sewer accellerates deconomposition, whil e providing a convenient cover smell.

    Truly grinding down a body takes a lot more work, and you run the risk of fouling your plumbing and calling in a plumber. So don't try it unless you know how to clear bones and meat out of a drainpipe. A good food processor can be useful. But don't over-use it, or power drills or saws. They're noisy and they attract attention. And forget the kitchen sink. It's better if you actually remove one of the toilets in your house from its base, which will give you direct access to one of the largest sewer pipes that enters your house. Follow any disposals with lots of bleach and then run the water for 5 or 10 minutes on top of that. And plug that pipe when you're not using it, to prevent any sewer gasses from backing up into your house. Usually, a U-trap inside the toilet does that for you.

    At first I was very impressed with this post.
    And then I realized it was a copy & paste job so I take that back

    At least give a link if you're going to do that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Watch Shallow Grave for a step by step method of disposing of a body :pac:.

    But being weird and creepy about it, you'd have to knock out all the teeth to prevent dental records being checked. Secondly. cut off fingers and dispose seperately to prevent fingerprint check and then somehow disfigure the face. If the body can't be identified it will make tracing it back to you much more difficult. Then dump the body in a lake or out at sea somewhere and hope it remains undiscovered...

    Most murders happen in the heat of the moment and often involve alcohol or other drugs. Planned murderers probably get away with the crime far mroe often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    Or we could just ask Larry Murphy what he did with the Bodies! :eek::eek:

    Apparently he already had the grave dug for the girl that got away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Doesnt anybody just eat the corpses anymore??

    What sort of world do we live in.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Definitely dispose the body at sea. Cut it up and encased each bit in concrete. Leave the concrete lumps somewhere safe and take them out to sea one by one. Or hire a Shannon cruiser and drop them in various parts of the Shannon system. You can carry them onto the boat in sports bags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭sagat2


    Drive down the country, Leitrim or somewhere drop the body by the side of the road and call 999 asking for an ambulance. By the time one finally turns up the body will be nicely decomposed and the HSE will take care of the rest covering up their own incompetence.

    Otherwise drive it to the nearest funeral home tell them it's your rather unpopular uncle Larry who had a reputation as a child molester. Demand the cheapest service they got and that you doubt anyone will bother attending the funeral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭knotknowbody


    First thing to do is wrap it in plastic put it in the freezer and freeze it, much less messy to cut up a frozen carcass, also not difficult with the right tools. Then you can dispose of the bits one at a time over the course of a few nights keeping them in the freezer until ready to go with them. This method means no smell, no mess cutting it up, no bodily fluids to get rid of.

    It would actually be very easy to get rid of small body parts, i can think of at least 2 methods that would be easily doable with the only risk being getting caught transporting the parts in the car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    driving the body anywhere leaves a crap load of forensics all over it. To save this paint the corpse green, await rigermortis, put leaves and twigs in its hair and stand it in your garden. Your interesting choice of garden flora will be the hot topic at your next dinner party/manequin sex orgy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    A human skeleton has been found in a disused quarry in north Cumbria, prompting a police investigation.



    A member of the public made the find in the Gaitle Bridge area, north of Carlisle, on Tuesday afternoon.

    Detectives are attempting to determine the age of the remains, thought to be that of a woman, the cause of death and the person's identity.

    Barry Thomson was walking his dog when he found the skeleton. Barry Thomson At first, Barry Thomson thought it was the remains of an animal

    He said: "Normally it's overgrown but this time of year you can actually see where you are going and there have been sightings of otters so I just went in to have a look to see what I could find.

    "And I came across some remains which at first I thought was a swan, a dead swan, and then I thought it was a sheep.

    "And then I went to investigate a little bit further, went down to it and came within 5 or 6ft and identified it to be human remains in my opinion.

    "So I came back to the house and immediately phoned the police."

    Det Ch Insp Jeff Ashton, who is leading the Cumbria Police investigation, said that it could be a lengthy process.

    "I've been involved in cases like this where it's taken a week or two weeks to remove the body," he said.

    "I don't anticipate it will be a quick job, examining the scene and removing the body."

    He said they were working with colleagues around the country and looking at missing person reports.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12224136


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    Bath + acid = win

    Someone hasnt been watching Breaking Bad, acid and ceramic = fail. :D

    Concrete shoes instead?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    Cuts off limbs / head, and dispose seperately, but don't bury!
    Dogs usually smell around the ground, and the tossed soil would be suspicious, instead, bring it to the woods and try to either climb a tree or throw the parts into high branches. Dogs are pretty crap at smelling upwards.


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