Biceps - Arm Curls

Hanley · 31-12-2010 02:14PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Chin ups , Inverted rows .bicep curls etc there all curls . They all move at the elbow joint .

What is the heaviest Curl out of them

Bw chin up or 12kg Bicep curl

Answer Chin up

What is going to make the muscle grow bigger the heavier curl or lighter curl

Answer

Heavier Curl .

Wow. It's a late comer, but definite contender for thread of 2010.

What association do you hold your accreditation with? I'm just curious so I never try to speak to one of your kind again.

Tell Charles I said hello.

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:19PM

Hanley wrote: »

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You may as well just leave now and never come back.

How can you say Your not using your biceps when dead lift ???
You need good grip strength . Next time you dead lift just look at your biceps . There be pooping out . Your holding 200kgs .

dantes87 · 31-12-2010 02:21PM

Can I just ask the CPT does his accreditation actually give him an knowledge of training sufficient to lecture those with many years of actual experience?

By the way he should check people's(Hanley's) logs before he calls them out :rolleyes:

I know many physios and their training seems to be almost exclusively in rehab and prehab, not sports performance.

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:21PM

Remmy wrote: »

He is also an elite gymnast who spent upwards of 3-4 hours a day every day for years doing ring work and different gymnastics from about age 10..

YES EXCACTLY AND WHERE DO YOU THINK HE STARTED ?

mastering his bodyweight or 12kg Bicep curls !!!

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:24PM

dantes87 wrote: »

Can I just ask the CPT does his accreditation actually give him an knowledge of training sufficient to lecture those with many years of actual experience?

By the way you should check people's(Hanley's) logs before he calls them out :rolleyes:

I know many physios and their training seems to be almost exclusively in rehab and prehab, not sports performance.

Certified Personal Trainer
Specialist Exercise Therapy
Army Physical Training Instructor
Former Army Boxer and football player

I have qualifications and experience .

And If H doesn't know that you use your biceps when performing deadlifts then sorry he doesn't know anything .

cc87 · 31-12-2010 02:24PM

http://jayfarrant.wordpress.com/personal-training-service/

cough ISSA cough

Hanley · 31-12-2010 02:26PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

YES EXCACTLY AND WHERE DO YOU THINK HE STARTED ?

mastering his bodyweight or 12kg Bicep curls !!!

Are you actually kidding?

The guy is amongst the most genetically gifted human beings in existence. He made it to the olympics, he survived brutal training regimes and probably spent 4-6 hours per day 5-6x per week training under some of the best coaches and nutritionists in the world.

How many hours of exclusively bodyweight training do you think it took him to get arm development like that?

Do you not agree that olympic level gymnasts are predisposed to greater levels of muscularity than most?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

How can you say Your not using your biceps when dead lift ???
You need good grip strength . Next time you dead lift just look at your biceps . There be pooping out . Your holding 200kgs .

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... I actually don't even know how to answer that.

Maybe I'll train my triceps by just holding a locked out bench so.

Thanks for your input. Revolutionary.

dantes87 wrote: »

Can I just ask the CPT does his accreditation actually give him an knowledge of training sufficient to lecture those with many years of actual experience?

By the way he should check people's(Hanley's) logs before he calls them out :rolleyes:

I know many physios and their training seems to be almost exclusively in rehab and prehab, not sports performance.

I assume CPT stands for 'Certified Personal Trainer' from the NSCA.

And please don't tell people to check my log. The back track is far more fun to watch once the hole is too deep to climb out of.

dantes87 · 31-12-2010 02:26PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Certified Personal Trainer
Specialist Exercise Therapy
Army Physical Training Instructor
Former Army Boxer and football player

I have qualifications and experience .

And If H doesn't know that you use your biceps when performing deadlifts then sorry he doesn't know anything .

You forgot your 200kg TBDL.

Yea, Hanley should bow to your superior knowledge.:pac:

Fair enough, I thought CPT was Phsio Therapist, my bad.

Hanley · 31-12-2010 02:28PM

dantes87 wrote: »

You forgot your 200kg TBDL.

Yea, Hanley should bow to your superior knowledge.:pac:

205kg. It's the little things that count

Remmy · 31-12-2010 02:28PM

cc87 wrote: »

http://jayfarrant.wordpress.com/personal-training-service/

cough ISSA cough

He is certainly doing a great job at promoting himself here! ''next class we will be teaching how do tear your biceps off your arms when you deadlift and get super swole in the process, 3 inch gains on your gunz guaranteed when they reattach the tendon!:D

discus · 31-12-2010 02:29PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Certified Personal Trainer
Specialist Exercise Therapy
Army Physical Training Instructor
Former Army Boxer and football player

I have qualifications and experience .

And If H doesn't know that you use your biceps when performing deadlifts then sorry he doesn't know anything .

You are a joke.

edit: Wasn't Darragh Hayes in ABS for a while...?

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:30PM

cc87 wrote: »

http://jayfarrant.wordpress.com/personal-training-service/

cough ISSA cough

What qualifictaions have you got ?

Yes ISSA
Dont forget the 12 week Army Pti Cadre . and the fact that I was an Athlete for 4 years .

Hanley · 31-12-2010 02:31PM

Remmy wrote: »

He is certainly doing a great job at promoting himself here! ''next class we will be teaching how do tear your biceps off your arms when you deadlift and get super swole in the process, 3 inch gains on your gunz guaranteed when they reattach the tendon!:D

Using your arms to deadlift would be a brutally effective way to create a savage peak in your biceps. It probably would be up around your shoulder by time you were done, but hey, a peak's a peak, right?!

itsallaboutheL · 31-12-2010 02:31PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

YES EXCACTLY AND WHERE DO YOU THINK HE STARTED ?

mastering his bodyweight or 12kg Bicep curls !!!

Let's say hypothetically speaking i was <5 foot tall, and a woman of slim build, who through no fault of my own lost both my legs. (in a big shopping centre at christmas or something). I had been ~35 kg, having lost the aforementioned legs i am now 23kg.
My question is, how many bags of microwave popcorn can i eat before i explode?

dantes87 · 31-12-2010 02:32PM

Hanley wrote: »

205kg. It's the little things that count

I can't boast here, I'm not much better.
But I realise how weak and inexperienced I am

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:32PM

Remmy wrote: »

He is certainly doing a great job at promoting himself here! ''next class we will be teaching how do tear your biceps off your arms when you deadlift and get super swole in the process, 3 inch gains on your gunz guaranteed when they reattach the tendon!:D

Listen guys stick to your Bicep curls . Thats all I have to say and Ill stick to my weighted chins ....:D

Canis Lupus · 31-12-2010 02:33PM

discus wrote: »

You are a joke.

Zee post not zee poster [/backseat modding]

cc87 · 31-12-2010 02:33PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

What qualifictaions have you got ?

Yes ISSA
Dont forget the 12 week Army Pti Cadre . and the fact that I was an Athlete for 4 years .

Im not claiming any knowledge

ISSA.....online only right? No practical?

Being good in the army means little outside it.

Ive been an athlete for ten years, I dont think it made me a good trainer.

dave80 · 31-12-2010 02:35PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Listen guys stick to your Bicep curls . Thats all I have to say and Ill stick to my weighted chins ....:D

i used to just do chins then i added curls and my biceps got bigger... explain tat one?

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:36PM

dantes87 wrote: »

I can't boast here, I'm not much better.
But I realise how weak and inexperienced I am

Im know deadlift King . Its my weakest Lift as are BB squats .

Answer me a question guys how many of you do this as a living ?

How many have you ave been a Pro / Semi pro Athlete ?

And how many of you are actually qualified in Health and fitness ?

cc87 · 31-12-2010 02:40PM

No offence but the majority of qualifications with regards to health and fitness mean nothing.

I have a few and i know most of them are useless

itsallaboutheL · 31-12-2010 02:40PM

Lads leave him alone.

Certs mean absolutely **** all.

I'm probably the least knowledgeable person on the entire internet, but i'm "qualified".

Means nothing.

dave80 · 31-12-2010 02:40PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Answer me a question guys how many of you do this as a living ?

just because you do it for a living doesnt make you an expert

How many have you ave been a Pro / Semi pro Athlete ?

just because youve been an athlete doesnt make you an expert

And how many of you are actually qualified in Health and fitness ?

just because you are qualified doesnt make you an expert

.

finty · 31-12-2010 02:40PM

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

A 12kg DB Is not heavy .
Ovbiously you dont deadlift .

Your Grip strength is a major factor when dead lifting .
Your brachioradialis is connected to your bicep brachii at the elbow joint . , Have you ever done a 200kg Dead lift . Trust me your Biceps get worked. (Isometric Contraction)

I Think you need to go back to school and learn how your body functions my friend . You clearly dont know what your talking about .

Brachioradialis has very little to do with grip strength. It flexes the elbow.

Grip strength is down to the superficial and deep flexors of the forearm and while brachioradialis is in the forearm its insertion is into the end of the radius thus not crossing into the hand and having little effect on the ability to maintain grip.

I would say no effect but dont want to come across as some sort of expert in something I'm not

As for your comments on a curl being useless, well they makes as much sense as your point about grip strength

Jay Farrant CPT · 31-12-2010 02:45PM

cc87 wrote: »

Im not claiming any knowledge

ISSA.....online only right? No practical?

Being good in the army means little outside it.

Ive been an athlete for ten years, I dont think it made me a good trainer.

It was all practical 18 week full time course in Cardiff.(Wales)
That was both Certs.
Army PTI cadre is a 12 week course on health and fitness. But with a little more added . You get thrashed as well as learning to become a fitness instructor.

You should have learned something in 10 years ?

I was competing at a very high level for 2 years and spent allot of time with very highly qualified instructors . Even more so than ISSA LOL

I do agree tho that Quals mean **** and experience does count for allot.

So dont think that just because I'm saying I have a qual I know everything . Beacon I dont but I do have experience and do this as a full time job

the drifter · 31-12-2010 02:48PM

Jesus ****ing h christ....

its got everything from personal abuse to back seat modding...

Yis are all lucky im too sick and weak to pick up the ban hammer...

Biceps - Arm Curls

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