Biceps - Arm Curls

here to be trained

I have worked arm curls with dumbbells into my routine and am doing 3 sets of 15 reps with a 12.5kg dumbbell in each arm currently, how does this rate? am hoping to move up to 15kg dumbbells in the next 2-3 weeks - should i continue to do 15 reps or move down? I am looking for good big toned muscular bicep muscles...any one have any ideas on this?

Tigger

here to be trained wrote: »

I have worked arm curls with dumbbells into my routine and am doing 3 sets of 15 reps with a 12.5kg dumbbell in each arm currently, how does this rate? am hoping to move up to 15kg dumbbells in the next 2-3 weeks - should i continue to do 15 reps or move down? I am looking for good big toned muscular bicep muscles...any one have any ideas on this?

do 10 sets of 15 reps rest only 1 minute between sets (timed) and strech and squeeze the muscle during the minute to get your bicep to grow from the inside

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWuftSF5kFM

Canis Lupus

lol@ if you can't deadlift there is no point to being alive.

Inspector Coptoor

Do chins, then do curls.
then lose some body fat
Biceps will look bigger.

I still hate the word toned

Dips, chin ups etc would be a far better method, 15kg bicep curls aren't much use as an exercise.

Dr Bolouswki

that video is great "Get out of here now, or I will shatter your bones" lol

Jay Farrant CPT

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Do chins, then do curls.
then lose some body fat
Biceps will look bigger.

I still hate the word toned

I agree Pointless doing Bicep Curls at this stage ... Learn to Push and Pull before you start isolating. Chins/weighted Chins Are going to my your arms grow at this stage .

You could Change your grip to Supination (Reverse Grip ) This will use your biceps more . So When your doing a BB Bent over row , Your actually doing a Bicep curl as well get me . A 40kg Bent over row is going to make your biceps grow bigger and faster than a few 15kg bicep curls .....

Toned = Low body fat / High Muscle mass . Nothing else
Light weight / High reps Is rubbish and a myth.(Muscle Endurance)
Earn the right to isolate ........... FACT

I must not advertise my personal business on boards.ie as it is against the forum charter.

here to be trained

RoverJames wrote: »

15kg bicep curls aren't much use as an exercise.

How do you know this? I would have thought that they are effective enough? more effective than not doing them?

Jay Farrant CPT -- what if you cant do chin ups?

Jay Farrant CPT

here to be trained wrote: »

How do you know this? I would have thought that they are effective enough? more effective than not doing them?

Jay Farrant CPT -- what if you cant do chin ups?

Simple for a muscle to grow it needs a reason to ( Ie A greater stress needs to be applied for it to grow bigger ) . a 15kg bicep curl isn't heavy enough FACT . you wont get hardly any growth . yes you might get the "burn" but if you get a tin of beans and do a load of curls you biceps would burn ,but doesn't mean there actually going to grow and bigger.

Now a chin up is basically a bicep curl . as it performs the same movement . So instead of 15kg bicep curl you are doing a 80kg body weight chin up . What is going to make the muscle grow more the 80 kg chin up or 15kg bicep curl .

Don't believe me ? have you see a ring gymnastics arms ... They are massive and they dont do any bicep curls.

And so are mine and I dont do Bicep curls (Every 6 weeks )

If you cant do chin ups then do jump up chin ups and inverted rows

Hanley

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Simple for a muscle to grow it needs a reason to ( Ie A greater stress needs to be applied for it to grow bigger ) . a 15kg bicep curl isn't heavy enough FACT . you wont get hardly any growth . yes you might get the "burn" but if you get a tin of beans and do a load of curls you biceps would burn ,but doesn't mean there actually going to grow and bigger.

why not? At what point does celluar adaptation start and finish?

Now a chin up is basically a bicep curl

No it's not.

as it performs the same movement

.

No it doesn't.

So instead of 15kg bicep curl you are doing a 80kg body weight chin up .

No you're not.

Don't believe me ? have you see a ring gymnastics arms ... They are massive and they dont do any bicep curls.

Would you advise 30-40+ hours of compound training a week for bicep growth so?

And so are mine and I dont do Bicep curls (Every 6 weeks )

Makes sense... don't train a muscle you want to see improvement on.

cc87

All you need to know about building up to chins

http://www.dieselcrew.com/ultimate-pull-up-video-how-to-progress-to-performing-pull-ups

Personally i prefer doing the jumping chins or slow negatives or using bands to help.

Jay Farrant CPT

Hanley wrote: »

why not? At what point does celluar adaptation start and finish?



No it's not.

.

No it doesn't.



No you're not.



Would you advise 30-40+ hours of compound training a week for bicep growth so?



Makes sense... don't train a muscle you want to see improvement on.

Ok so a chin up isnt the same as a bicep curl .. It still works the bicep fact . more than a bicep curl , The differnece is your placing a heavier resistance on it with a chin up.

This guy cant even perform chin ups why the hell should he be doing isolation bicep curls .

I train my biceps in every pulling movement I perform you dont have to isolate a muscle to train it .... plus deadlifting is a big one.

Next your be telling us that concentraion curls are for your lower biceps lol

digme

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Ok so a chin up isnt the same as a bicep curl .. It still works the bicep fact . more than a bicep curl , The differnece is your placing a heavier resistance on it with a chin up.

This guy cant even perform chin ups why the hell should he be doing isolation bicep curls .

I train my biceps in every pulling movement I perform you dont have to isolate a muscle to train it .... plus deadlifting is a big one.

Next your be telling us that concentraion curls are for your lower biceps lol

EVER HEAR OF GRAVITY?................

Jay Farrant CPT

digme wrote: »

EVER HEAR OF GRAVITY?................

Yes you have got the negative end of the rep , Just remember you have to pull yourself up . Go against gravity...

Any pulling movement works your bicep

What is going to make your biceps grow a 15 kg isolation curl maybe 17.5kg in a few weeks if your lucky

Or a 80kg chin up or DB 1 arm row....
Yes you will work other muscle , but Your biceps will have to grow accordingly with them .People who are good at bench press normally have decent triceps . Your body works as a functional unit .and grows as one.

Isolation has its place . Maybe when you can perform some BW chins then look at the curls . A 25kg curl would do allot more than a 15 kg curl . make sense ????

digme

Exactly.He can just hang and do negatives till he can do a proper chin up.

Jay Farrant CPT

digme wrote: »

Exactly.He can just hang and do negatives till he can do a proper chin up.

Thank you

Stick to them 12.5kg Bicep Curls and bet you in 6 months time your doing the same curls with the same weight.. maybe 15kg if your lucky . Ill stick to my weighted chins

digme

here op

http://www.exrx.net/Kinesiology/AnglePull.html

Jay Farrant CPT

digme wrote: »

here op

http://www.exrx.net/Kinesiology/AnglePull.html

:D:D:D:D:D:D LMAO

Hanley

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Ok so a chin up isnt the same as a bicep curl .. It still works the bicep fact .

So does ****.... Or lifting my arm up to scratch my head. Can't see that doing much for bicep size.

more than a bicep curl , The differnece is your placing a heavier resistance on it with a chin up.

Who says it works it more than a bicep curl? What do you even mean by "works it more".

And the "load" is irrelevant. It's not just your bicep that works in a chin up, some of the biggest muscles in your upper body are prime movers. They're bearing the majority of it.

This guy cant even perform chin ups why the hell should he be doing isolation bicep curls .

Because he wants bigger arms?!

Do you think there's a rule that says you can't do chin ups if you're doing curls?? Like that they're mutually exclusive and if you're seen to do both in the same workout the gym police will come along and amputate your gunzz?

I train my biceps in every pulling movement I perform

I don't.... I like to concentrate on not potentially tearing a bicep by trying to move a heavy load with a small muscle wheren there's other ones better served to doing the job.

you dont have to isolate a muscle to train it .... plus deadlifting is a big one.

Next your be telling us that concentraion curls are for your lower biceps lol

Deadlifting's a big what? A good way to train your biceps!?

Next thing you know you'll be telling us that squats are a good way to train your calves.

Jay Farrant CPT

Hanley wrote: »

So does ****.... Or lifting my arm up to scratch my head. Can't see that doing much for bicep size.



Who says it works it more than a bicep curl? What do you even mean by "works it more".

And the "load" is irrelevant. It's not just your bicep that works in a chin up, some of the biggest muscles in your upper body are prime movers. They're bearing the majority of it.



Because he wants bigger arms?!

Do you think there's a rule that says you can't do chin ups if you're doing curls?? Like that they're mutually exclusive and if you're seen to do both in the same workout the gym police will come along and amputate your gunzz?



I don't.... I like to concentrate on not potentially tearing a bicep by trying to move a heavy load with a small muscle where there's other ones better served to doing the job.



Deadlifting's a big what? A good way to train your biceps!?

Next thing you know you'll be telling us that squats are a good way to train your calves.

The difference is between **** and a chin up is that you are moving your body weight ... You may aswell have a **** than curl with 12kg DB.

Your Bicep doesn't know what a bicep curl or A chin up is . It only knows the movement.

There is a lot more resistance (Greater force Applied on the muscle ) when you do a body weight chin up compared to a 12.5 kg curl.

In order to make a muscle grow the load must be greater than the muscle can handle .

A 12kg DB Is not heavy .

Now if you were doing 25kg Bicep curls , then yes you are getting something from doing curls and they are worth doing.

Its not just Chin ups , But inverted row,Bent over row,One arm row, These are all going to benefit him more at the moment than a pointless 12kg bicep curls . FACT.

Ovbiously you dont deadlift .

Your Grip strength is a major factor when dead lifting .
Your brachioradialis is connected to your bicep brachii at the elbow joint . , Have you ever done a 200kg Dead lift . Trust me your Biceps get worked. (Isometric Contraction)

I Think you need to go back to school and learn how your body functions my friend . You clearly dont know what your talking about .

seniorolaighin

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

I Think you need to go back to school and learn how your body functions my friend . You clearly dont know what your talking about .

Be nice everyone!!

I think as a Chartered Physiotherapist (CPT) you need to remember you are professionally trained and some people will take advice and some not........always be nice! wont someone think of the children!!!!!!!

Chet Zar

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

A 12kg DB Is not heavy .

Come on man it's relative to the person holding it, right?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Ovbiously you dont deadlift .

I can only get the popcorn out for this one.

I think it's funny how when people ask 'how do I build up my legs', people say squat, deadlift. Now, 'how do I build up my biceps'? Eh, do some chin-ups!

Most people can't do chin-ups. Bicep curls build biceps. Chins build biceps. Take both and don't be a curl-snob.

COH

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Your Bicep doesn't know what a bicep curl or A chin up is . It only knows the movement.

There is a lot more resistance (Greater force Applied on the muscle ) when you do a body weight chin up compared to a 12.5 kg curl.

Is it possible to do a chin up with just your biceps? Is bodyweight a factor?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

In order to make a muscle grow the load must be greater than the muscle can handle .

So you'd recommend people exclusively lift weights they cant handle?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

A 12kg DB Is not heavy .

According to who?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Now if you were doing 25kg Bicep curls , then yes you are getting something from doing curls and they are worth doing.

A curl is a curl.. you're not making sense. He shouldnt curl unless he can curl more?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Its not just Chin ups , But inverted row,Bent over row,One arm row, These are all going to benefit him more at the moment than a pointless 12kg bicep curls . FACT.

Ovbiously you dont deadlift .

If he does them correctly they'll certainly benefit his back more. And LOL... what do you deadlift?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

I Think you need to go back to school and learn how your body functions my friend . You clearly dont know what your talking about .

I think you should re-read your 'I'm a PT manual on how to do stuff'

Remmy

Chet Zar wrote: »

Come on man it's relative to the person holding it, right?



I can only get the popcorn out for this one.

I think it's funny how when people ask 'how do I build up my legs', people say squat, deadlift. Now, 'how do I build up my biceps'? Eh, do some chin-ups!

Most people can't do chin-ups. Bicep curls build biceps. Chins build biceps. Take both and don't be a curl-snob.

+1. Why go a roundabout way to do something?The people with the biggest biceps dont do some inverted row on a swiss ball, they curl. If starting off you can only curl a 15kg dumbell for 10 reps but in a few months can curl a 22kg dumbell for 10 reps with the same form are your biceps going to look the same? Im not sure why people find this so complicated.:rolleyes:

Canis Lupus

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Ovbiously you dont deadlift .

*quietly chuckles*

Jay Farrant CPT

A curl is a curl.. you're not making sense. He shouldn't curl unless he can curl more?

Forget Chin ups . what Im saying is he is going to get more gains from Performing Heavy pulls than performing Isolation Curls at the moment .
Earn the right to isolate.

Performing a seated row at 60kg Would benefit him more . Yes it is mainly your lats that work but you biceps and and grip strength have to be just as strong other wise you not going to pull it . So in theory you biceps would grow for you to cope with that 60kg row . get me . There only going to grow tiny mounts with 12.5kg curls . I have never seen any one with massive biceps and curling 12kg ..

I'm not a curl snob . But I think you should learn to push and pull before you isolate .

And I'm not saying that you should do dead lifts to train biceps lol
I'm saying that they do use the bicep . If your holding a BB with 200kg Your grip strength goes before anything (In my case it does)
And like I said Your brachioradialis is connected to you bicep at the elbow joint . So your Grip strength needs to be 200kg strong to allow you to perform that dead lift .

If your so determined to performin curls do them at the end of your workout . But they shouldn't be the main focus.

To get big you have to lift big . Lifting 12kg ant big . Lifting your BW or a 50kg + Curl is big .

205KG TBDL (Trap Bar Dead lift)

Remmy

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

A curl is a curl.. you're not making sense. He shouldn't curl unless he can curl more?

Forget Chin ups . what Im saying is he is going to get more gains from Performing Heavy pulls than performing Isolation Curls at the moment .
Earn the right to isolate.

Performing a seated row at 60kg Would benefit him more . Yes it is mainly your lats that work but you biceps and and grip strength have to be just as strong other wise you not going to pull it . So in theory you biceps would grow for you to cope with that 60kg row . get me . There only going to grow tiny mounts with 12.5kg curls . I have never seen any one with massive biceps and curling 12kg ..

I'm not a curl snob . But I think you should learn to push and pull before you isolate .

And I'm not saying that you should do dead lifts to train biceps lol
I'm saying that they do use the bicep . If your holding a BB with 200kg Your grip strength goes before anything (In my case it does)
And like I said Your brachioradialis is connected to you bicep at the elbow joint . So your Grip strength needs to be 200kg strong to allow you to perform that dead lift .

If your so determined to performin curls do them at the end of your workout . But they shouldn't be the main focus.

To get big you have to lift big . Lifting 12kg ant big . Lifting your BW or a 50kg + Curl is big .

205KG TBDL (Trap Bar Dead lift)

Do you have any more pearls of wisdom? You're one total body program away from going full Waterbury mode on us.:eek:

Jay Farrant CPT

Remmy wrote: »

+1. Why go a roundabout way to do something?The people with the biggest biceps dont do some inverted row on a swiss ball, they curl. If starting off you can only curl a 15kg dumbell for 10 reps but in a few months can curl a 22kg dumbell for 10 reps with the same form are your biceps going to look the same? Im not sure why people find this so complicated.:rolleyes:

Chin ups , Inverted rows .bicep curls etc there all curls . They all move at the elbow joint .

What is the heaviest Curl out of them

Bw chin up or 12kg Bicep curl

Answer Chin up

What is going to make the muscle grow bigger the heavier curl or lighter curl

Answer

Heavier Curl .

Jay Farrant CPT

This guy doesnt do Bicep Curls .... The Bw chin up Pull up master

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.verticaljumping.com/images/male_gymnast.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.verticaljumping.com/upper_body_training_part2.html&usg=__e6Hj_11u79Y1NpRcCj3bKtRiWxc=&h=180&w=300&sz=31&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=rEn60-va4uVepM:&tbnh=108&tbnw=180&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRing%2BgYMNASTIC%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D416%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=265&ei=q9UdTa_EE4-7hAfLxci3Dg&oei=q9UdTa_EE4-7hAfLxci3Dg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=10&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=116&ty=62

Hanley

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Ovbiously you dont deadlift .

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You may as well just leave now and never come back.

Remmy

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

This guy doesnt do Bicep Curls .... The Bw chin up Pull up master

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.verticaljumping.com/images/male_gymnast.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.verticaljumping.com/upper_body_training_part2.html&usg=__e6Hj_11u79Y1NpRcCj3bKtRiWxc=&h=180&w=300&sz=31&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=rEn60-va4uVepM:&tbnh=108&tbnw=180&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRing%2BgYMNASTIC%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D416%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=265&ei=q9UdTa_EE4-7hAfLxci3Dg&oei=q9UdTa_EE4-7hAfLxci3Dg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=10&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=116&ty=62

He is also an elite gymnast who spent upwards of 3-4 hours a day every day for years doing ring work and different gymnastics from about age 10..

Hanley

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Chin ups , Inverted rows .bicep curls etc there all curls . They all move at the elbow joint .

What is the heaviest Curl out of them

Bw chin up or 12kg Bicep curl

Answer Chin up

What is going to make the muscle grow bigger the heavier curl or lighter curl

Answer

Heavier Curl .

Wow. It's a late comer, but definite contender for thread of 2010.

What association do you hold your accreditation with? I'm just curious so I never try to speak to one of your kind again.

Tell Charles I said hello.

Jay Farrant CPT

Hanley wrote: »

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You may as well just leave now and never come back.

How can you say Your not using your biceps when dead lift ???
You need good grip strength . Next time you dead lift just look at your biceps . There be pooping out . Your holding 200kgs .

dantes87

Can I just ask the CPT does his accreditation actually give him an knowledge of training sufficient to lecture those with many years of actual experience?

By the way he should check people's(Hanley's) logs before he calls them out :rolleyes:

I know many physios and their training seems to be almost exclusively in rehab and prehab, not sports performance.

Jay Farrant CPT

Remmy wrote: »

He is also an elite gymnast who spent upwards of 3-4 hours a day every day for years doing ring work and different gymnastics from about age 10..

YES EXCACTLY AND WHERE DO YOU THINK HE STARTED ?

mastering his bodyweight or 12kg Bicep curls !!!

Jay Farrant CPT

dantes87 wrote: »

Can I just ask the CPT does his accreditation actually give him an knowledge of training sufficient to lecture those with many years of actual experience?

By the way you should check people's(Hanley's) logs before he calls them out :rolleyes:

I know many physios and their training seems to be almost exclusively in rehab and prehab, not sports performance.

Certified Personal Trainer
Specialist Exercise Therapy
Army Physical Training Instructor
Former Army Boxer and football player

I have qualifications and experience .

And If H doesn't know that you use your biceps when performing deadlifts then sorry he doesn't know anything .

cc87

http://jayfarrant.wordpress.com/personal-training-service/

cough ISSA cough

Hanley

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

YES EXCACTLY AND WHERE DO YOU THINK HE STARTED ?

mastering his bodyweight or 12kg Bicep curls !!!

Are you actually kidding?

The guy is amongst the most genetically gifted human beings in existence. He made it to the olympics, he survived brutal training regimes and probably spent 4-6 hours per day 5-6x per week training under some of the best coaches and nutritionists in the world.

How many hours of exclusively bodyweight training do you think it took him to get arm development like that?

Do you not agree that olympic level gymnasts are predisposed to greater levels of muscularity than most?

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

How can you say Your not using your biceps when dead lift ???
You need good grip strength . Next time you dead lift just look at your biceps . There be pooping out . Your holding 200kgs .

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... I actually don't even know how to answer that.

Maybe I'll train my triceps by just holding a locked out bench so.

Thanks for your input. Revolutionary.

dantes87 wrote: »

Can I just ask the CPT does his accreditation actually give him an knowledge of training sufficient to lecture those with many years of actual experience?

By the way he should check people's(Hanley's) logs before he calls them out :rolleyes:

I know many physios and their training seems to be almost exclusively in rehab and prehab, not sports performance.

I assume CPT stands for 'Certified Personal Trainer' from the NSCA.

And please don't tell people to check my log. The back track is far more fun to watch once the hole is too deep to climb out of.

dantes87

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Certified Personal Trainer
Specialist Exercise Therapy
Army Physical Training Instructor
Former Army Boxer and football player

I have qualifications and experience .

And If H doesn't know that you use your biceps when performing deadlifts then sorry he doesn't know anything .

You forgot your 200kg TBDL.

Yea, Hanley should bow to your superior knowledge.:pac:

Fair enough, I thought CPT was Phsio Therapist, my bad.

Hanley

dantes87 wrote: »

You forgot your 200kg TBDL.

Yea, Hanley should bow to your superior knowledge.:pac:

205kg. It's the little things that count

Remmy

cc87 wrote: »

http://jayfarrant.wordpress.com/personal-training-service/

cough ISSA cough

He is certainly doing a great job at promoting himself here! ''next class we will be teaching how do tear your biceps off your arms when you deadlift and get super swole in the process, 3 inch gains on your gunz guaranteed when they reattach the tendon!:D

discus

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Certified Personal Trainer
Specialist Exercise Therapy
Army Physical Training Instructor
Former Army Boxer and football player

I have qualifications and experience .

And If H doesn't know that you use your biceps when performing deadlifts then sorry he doesn't know anything .

You are a joke.

edit: Wasn't Darragh Hayes in ABS for a while...?

Jay Farrant CPT

cc87 wrote: »

http://jayfarrant.wordpress.com/personal-training-service/

cough ISSA cough

What qualifictaions have you got ?

Yes ISSA
Dont forget the 12 week Army Pti Cadre . and the fact that I was an Athlete for 4 years .

Hanley

Remmy wrote: »

He is certainly doing a great job at promoting himself here! ''next class we will be teaching how do tear your biceps off your arms when you deadlift and get super swole in the process, 3 inch gains on your gunz guaranteed when they reattach the tendon!:D

Using your arms to deadlift would be a brutally effective way to create a savage peak in your biceps. It probably would be up around your shoulder by time you were done, but hey, a peak's a peak, right?!

itsallaboutheL

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

YES EXCACTLY AND WHERE DO YOU THINK HE STARTED ?

mastering his bodyweight or 12kg Bicep curls !!!

Let's say hypothetically speaking i was <5 foot tall, and a woman of slim build, who through no fault of my own lost both my legs. (in a big shopping centre at christmas or something). I had been ~35 kg, having lost the aforementioned legs i am now 23kg.
My question is, how many bags of microwave popcorn can i eat before i explode?

dantes87

Hanley wrote: »

205kg. It's the little things that count

I can't boast here, I'm not much better.
But I realise how weak and inexperienced I am

Jay Farrant CPT

Remmy wrote: »

He is certainly doing a great job at promoting himself here! ''next class we will be teaching how do tear your biceps off your arms when you deadlift and get super swole in the process, 3 inch gains on your gunz guaranteed when they reattach the tendon!:D

Listen guys stick to your Bicep curls . Thats all I have to say and Ill stick to my weighted chins ....:D

Canis Lupus

discus wrote: »

You are a joke.

Zee post not zee poster [/backseat modding]

cc87

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

What qualifictaions have you got ?

Yes ISSA
Dont forget the 12 week Army Pti Cadre . and the fact that I was an Athlete for 4 years .

Im not claiming any knowledge

ISSA.....online only right? No practical?

Being good in the army means little outside it.

Ive been an athlete for ten years, I dont think it made me a good trainer.

dave80

Jay Farrant CPT wrote: »

Listen guys stick to your Bicep curls . Thats all I have to say and Ill stick to my weighted chins ....:D

i used to just do chins then i added curls and my biceps got bigger... explain tat one?

Jay Farrant CPT

dantes87 wrote: »

I can't boast here, I'm not much better.
But I realise how weak and inexperienced I am

Im know deadlift King . Its my weakest Lift as are BB squats .

Answer me a question guys how many of you do this as a living ?

How many have you ave been a Pro / Semi pro Athlete ?

And how many of you are actually qualified in Health and fitness ?