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Misfits Season 3 **Spoilers**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Dave Roe


    wil wrote: »
    Sorry my "speaking German" reference was my own speculation on whether the jew killed Hitler and what could have hapened to the world if he suceeeded. Sometimes I'm too cryptic for my own liking.:confused:

    I got that straight away, which maybe isn't a good thing. I actually suspect that the powers guy was keeping that one back (who wouldn't) but I also got the feeling that while he could trade the powers he couldn't actually use them himself. Did I just make that up in my own head, or was that actually stated in the episode?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    Thats right. So why does Simon not save Nicky? He could have warned them not to be in the bar that night before he died.
    So my theory is he either knew shes going to be ok in the future or finds out in the future she will turn evil or something so he doesn't save her.
    The first seems more likely to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Jet Black wrote: »
    Thats right. So why does Simon not save Nicky? He could have warned them not to be in the bar that night before he died.
    So my theory is he either knew shes going to be ok in the future or finds out in the future she will turn evil or something so he doesn't save her.
    The first seems more likely to me.

    Or maybe he didn't tell them because that's the way it has to happen??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Or maybe he didn't tell them because that's the way it has to happen??

    That was the other thing. Its a time paradox, now that things have gone the way they should how is he going to know what he has to go back to the past to fix? Is someone going to tell him or will he find a scrap book of some kind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    RibenaHead wrote: »
    He could have used his invisibility to steal money as in the GTA episode

    Simon, above all the others, has a strong sense of justice and doing the right thing. The only reason he stole the money that time was to save Kelly's life. While I'd like to believe you and see my theory about future Simon being immortal panning out (I don't like the idea of knowing when you're going to die, as Simon does now) I just don't believe it at the moment.
    Jet Black wrote: »
    Thats right. So why does Simon not save Nicky? He could have warned them not to be in the bar that night before he died. So my theory is he either knew shes going to be ok in the future or finds out in the future she will turn evil or something so he doesn't save her.
    The first seems more likely to me.
    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Or maybe he didn't tell them because that's the way it has to happen??

    Exactly. Not everything is overly complicated and has different meanings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Liathroidi Dana


    I'm guessing Simon will get some kind of power to negate the effects of other people's powers. For example he can touch Alesha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Jet Black wrote: »
    That was the other thing. Its a time paradox, now that things have gone the way they should how is he going to know what he has to go back to the past to fix? Is someone going to tell him or will he find a scrap book of some kind?
    He's going to find out the exact same way future simon found out, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Asphyxia


    Ugh! So sad season 2 is finished it went way too fast! I have too many questions that need answering :confused:

    So happy for Alecia and Simon I was mad for them to get together, I hope they all get their powers back it wouldn't be same if they didn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jolley123


    I'm guessing Simon will get some kind of power to negate the effects of other people's powers. For example he can touch Alesha.

    He can touch her because she got rid of her power. Yeh, I know he could touch her when he travelled back in time, but I think it's safe to assume that the writers made it that way because of what happened with her in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    jolley123 wrote: »
    He can touch her because she got rid of her power. Yeh, I know he could touch her when he travelled back in time, but I think it's safe to assume that the writers made it that way because of what happened with her in the future.

    That doesn't really make sense. Alishea had her power then, it should have affected Future Simon. We don't know why it didn't yet, probably because he gains a power that negates other powers as a previous poster said.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    That doesn't really make sense. Alishea had her power then, it should have affected Future Simon. We don't know why it didn't yet, probably because he gains a power that negates other powers as a previous poster said.
    Agreed - it doesn't make sense. I'm assuming he just gets some form of immunity in the future.
    Then again I've a sneaking feeling that the writers really aren't paying any attention to forming much of an arc or mythos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    Do we know if the "dealer" can only sell powers he has bought off other people or if he is like "making" the powers himself?? If not it would mean that other people has previously sold the powers that "Jesus" got

    Would also have huge bearings on what powers the misfits are going to have next series


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jolley123


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    That doesn't really make sense. Alishea had her power then, it should have affected Future Simon. We don't know why it didn't yet, probably because he gains a power that negates other powers as a previous poster said.

    You could be right, but I still disagree. I feel that to set the Simon/Alishea relationship in motion, they started it with the fact that Future Simon can touch her. Then to explain it they went with the Alishea selling her powers thing.I think it is possible that the writers could have done that and were too lazy to give a valid reason as to why he could touch her before she sold her powers. I just find it hard to believe that Simon can travel through time AND have a power that negates other powers. I could be wrong, but I certainly believe my notion is just as plausible.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    jolley123 wrote: »
    I certainly believe my notion is just as plausible.
    Only if I end up giving the writers too much credit :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    jolley123 wrote: »
    I just find it hard to believe that Simon can travel through time AND have a power that negates other powers. I could be wrong, but I certainly believe my notion is just as plausible.

    Simon doesn't need to have the power to timetravel - he could make do with knowing somebody with the power to send him through time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jolley123


    Ugh, whatever... All I'm saying is I don't think he will have the power to negate other powers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭angelll


    Am i the only one that remembers nathan running off with the baby and trying to keep him in the community centre? It's not unheard of that he likes babies,even ones that can make someone like them using powers.
    Re: simon...i wonder did he buy curtis's power? As it was the only one not available to be bought. I presume when jesus guy died then all the powers reverted back to the guy in the room but not curtis's one,as it was already gone (to simon?). It was never mentioned who exactly sent simon back in time,we know there are a lot more people out there with different powers,maybe one of the others will get the power to send someone back in time,like the weeping angels (yes i know they wanted someones quantum energy etc,just gearing up for dr who xmas special :D).

    Seeing as both misfits and supernatural are finished for a while,i'm missing my scifi fixes,anyone know if haven is any good?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    Re: simon...i wonder did he buy curtis's power? As it was the only one not available to be bought. I presume when jesus guy died then all the powers reverted back to the guy in the room but not curtis's one,as it was already gone (to simon?).

    Interesting point cos didnt Alisha ask him what he was doing there.... But Curtis cannot time travel - He can rewind time. There is a difference. When Curtis rewinds time, there are not 2 of him back in the past. When Future Simon came to this time, we had two Simons in the one time. Hence, a different power to the power Curtis had


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I thought this was very weak. Shoddily plotted and very low on laughs, the afterbirth scene was the only high point. On the other hand, I could buy Nathan's sudden decision to give up everything and get with Marnie. He's an impulsive, spontaneous, sensitive guy, not the calculating arsehole he likes to pretend to be.

    Oh wait a second, am I getting him mixed up with Don Draper...


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    angelll wrote: »
    Am i the only one that remembers nathan running off with the baby and trying to keep him in the community centre? It's not unheard of that he likes babies,even ones that can make someone like them using powers.
    Yes but, as you say, the baby used powers on him so it's hardly a good case is it? May as well say most men are lustful rapnig beasts because they touched Alysha.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    jolley123 wrote: »
    You could be right, but I still disagree. I feel that to set the Simon/Alishea relationship in motion, they started it with the fact that Future Simon can touch her. Then to explain it they went with the Alishea selling her powers thing.I think it is possible that the writers could have done that and were too lazy to give a valid reason as to why he could touch her before she sold her powers. I just find it hard to believe that Simon can travel through time AND have a power that negates other powers. I could be wrong, but I certainly believe my notion is just as plausible.

    Nathan was immortal AND could talk to dead people;)

    I do see where you're coming from, I just don't agree; which is fair enough because you don't agree with me so we're even:p

    I just don't think the writer would be that lazy or inept. Alishea still had her power, so Future Simon would have to have some sort of counter power that would let him touch her.

    It would be like me saying I can't go out to play football tonight because I'll be in an accident that will break my leg next week.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's a few things about the "seeing dead" people that confuses me:

    Did Nathan have this ability in Season One or was this seemingly a side-effect of the drugs they consumed?

    If it is a side-effect, does anyone else have a side power now as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    There's a few things about the "seeing dead" people that confuses me:

    Did Nathan have this ability in Season One or was this seemingly a side-effect of the drugs they consumed?

    If it is a side-effect, does anyone else have a side power now as well?

    I'm going to guess it's just a development of his power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    I'm going to guess it's just a development of his power.

    It's also possible that he had that all along, but just never took any notice of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    It's also possible that he had that all along, but just never took any notice of them.

    Yeah that's what I was thinking. From the looks of it he can only see dead people he knew so if his brother hadn't died he wouldn't have discovered it. The old woman he slept with died in season 1 and he didn't see her ghost but one could argue she'd gone to heaven or something. Personally I think the writer hadn't come up with his side power yet but I'm not that bothered. =P

    Edit: Just re-read your post and realised you mean he didn't know the people were dead. That's also a good point. I man, how could he tell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    I kind of assumed that Nathan's power was a side effect of dying, as much as anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    Ian_K wrote: »
    Do we know if the "dealer" can only sell powers he has bought off other people or if he is like making the powers himself?? If not it would mean that other people has previously sold the powers that "Jesus" got

    Would also have huge bearings on what powers the misfits are going to have next series



    Answer to this anyone?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Ian_K wrote: »
    Answer to this anyone?

    If he can make powers why would be buy them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    If he can make powers why would be buy them?

    :( Feel rather silly now

    Who went and sold the powers that "Jesus" bought at the start? Why would anyone sell them (unless they were interested in swimming)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭matrim


    I kind of assumed that Nathan's power was a side effect of dying, as much as anything else.

    That's actually a very good point. Nathan first "comes back" in the first episode of season 2. In the second episode he meets his brother and later sees his ghost. So the ghost thing may be related to him dying rather than his power (or the drugs reversing it).


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