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ENGLAND: Internet porn will be blocked to protect all children - Long Article

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  • #32
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    strobe wrote: »
    I don't disagree on any particular point.
    I'm just saying that, to be fair to those behind this move, I don't think it's based on sex being dirty and immoral type thinking, more a strategy, however ill advised, to prevent kids seeing the fucked up stuff.


  • #33
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'm just saying that, to be fair to those behind this move, I don't think it's based on sex being dirty and immoral type thinking, more a strategy, however ill advised, to prevent kids seeing the fucked up stuff.

    I disagree on every particular point.


  • #34
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    They will quickly rescind this piece of nanny statish crap when they take a look at their sex crimes stats, this will lead to a massive increase in rape if they do truly try to censor the internet. No matter how they try to censor it there will always be ways around it and hackers will always get their warez out and be one step of the bumbling idiots behind them.

    Porn like it or not is actually a large part of the economy and actually is worth more than the entire mainstream film industry in the United States alone, it has driven technological innovation and saw VHS win the format war over the superior Betamax format, VHS being chosen by the adult industry as format of choice. It is a major part of the online world and one of the big sellers and pushers of technology today.


  • #35
    Holybejaysus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭Holybejaysus


    So they want to stop the early sexualisation of children do they? Well maybe they should start with:

    -pole dancing kits for children,
    -bra's for pre-teen girls,
    -clothes for kids that say things like 'sexy bitch',
    -Rihanna/Pussycat Dolls/Christina Aguilera/any rapper making videos that resemble soft porn,


    Sort this out and you will have 90% of the problem fixed. But as we all know, that isn't going to happen because there is too much money to be made in it.


  • #36
    Meteoric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Meteoric


    The way I read is is the proposal is to make a p0rn filter the norm unless you opt out, you can opt out. But then you as the person who has the internet access are responsible for who uses it. Not the nameless faceless ISP, you. So if your kid watches porn because you opted in, it is your fault.
    I'm totally not pro censorship but to me this seems not the worst, if you choose to allow your connection to accept porn, you have to take responsibility on how to prevent your kids watching the same stuff


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  • #37
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Stinicker wrote: »
    They will quickly rescind this piece of nanny statish crap when they take a look at their sex crimes stats, this will lead to a massive increase in rape if they do truly try to censor the internet.

    LOL. So restrictions on internet porn means an increase in sex crimes stats.
    Says it all really.
    Stinicker wrote:
    No matter how they try to censor it there will always be ways around it and hackers will always get their warez out and be one step of the bumbling idiots behind them.

    Porn like it or not is actually a large part of the economy and actually is worth more than the entire mainstream film industry in the United States alone, it has driven technological innovation and saw VHS win the format war over the superior Betamax format, VHS being chosen by the adult industry as format of choice. It is a major part of the online world and one of the big sellers and pushers of technology today.

    There's a big difference between a Playboy mag in my day (that was banned), or a Video tape that could have been got over the counter of Debbie does Dallas and what you get now on Redtube or other sites.

    Young 14/15 year old lads shouldn't be seeing some of the stuff that is out there.

    Yeah, hacks and ways around it will be found. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try and restrict some content.

    What we seem to want is no net restrictions, whatsoever and let parents police access. Yet, as you say, teenagers will find ways around that.

    The logical solution would be a strict age limit on access, not a click on this button coz I'm 18, button.

    Unfortunately, the extremes seems to have taken over this debate and the middle ground is seen as conservative and prudish.

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  • #38
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    They will quickly rescind this piece of nanny statish crap when they take a look at their sex crimes stats, this will lead to a massive increase in rape if they do truly try to censor the internet.

    Yeah, in those few days my net was down I raped a dozen women.


  • #39
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Biggins is old, what did you do before internet porn?

    The lingerie section of the mammy's mail order catalogue.

    40 year old women in big lacy bras.

    *fap fap*


  • #40
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    K-9 wrote: »
    LOL. So restrictions on internet porn means an increase in sex crimes stats.
    Says it all really.



    There's a big difference between a Playboy mag in my day (that was banned), or a Video tape that could have been got over the counter of Debbie does Dallas and what you get now on Redtube or other sites.

    Young 14/15 year old lads shouldn't be seeing some of the stuff that is out there.

    Yeah, hacks and ways around it will be found. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try and restrict some content.

    What we seem to want is no net restrictions, whatsoever and let parents police access. Yet, as you say, teenagers will find ways around that.

    The logical solution would be a strict age limit on access, not a click on this button coz I'm 18, button.

    Unfortunately, the extremes seems to have taken over this debate and the middle ground is seen as conservative and prudish.

    Try representing the middle ground so. Tip: The above is not it.


  • #41
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit



    "She quoted the example of two underage brothers sentenced to at least five years’ detention this year for a sadistic sex attack on two other boys in South Yorkshire. The brothers were said to have had a “toxic” home life where they were exposed to pornography."
    Yet another case of blaming something inanimate when the cause is actually bad parenting. In the above case, internet porn did not cause these 2 brothers to act so horrendously, it was their parents.

    I'm sick of this rubbish.

    I don't like a lot of what is on the internet, but I cannot support censorship in any form. Once you allow it, censorship will continue to grow and the boundary of what is excluded will be pushed further and further back.

    A better solution is to enforce an accurate & global categorisation of all web sites. Web sites that fall into certain classifications can then be blocked by individuals. Each person then chooses their own type of content.


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  • #42
    Slugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    Same BS that Jack thompson tried to put the blame on video games for Virginia Tech because the kid played 'em


  • #43
    scientific1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    If I cant relieve myself a few times a day, people will suffer.


  • #44
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    If the government here banned us from looking at internet porn i'd actually resort to terrorism.

    I could set up a terror group called the Porn Liberation Front (PLF). I'd imagine we'd have a lot of members.


  • #45
    Degag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    This reminds me of a guy i knew in school. One day we told him of this porn website to go on that night.

    Next day we asked him how he got on... He told us he couldn't get into the website. When the website asked him to enter his date of birth, the idiot kept on putting in his real d.o.b. He got ribbed for that for a long time!


  • #46
    whatsamsn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc


    Someone had to post it hahaha. :p


  • #47
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    If the government here banned us from looking at internet porn i'd actually resort to terrorism.

    I could set up a terror group called the Porn Liberation Front (PLF). I'd imagine we'd have a lot of members.

    Splitter!!!


  • #48
    bronte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Pfft...If they take all the porn off the internet there'll only be one website left and it'll be called "Bring back the porn"


  • #49
    Ray Burkes Pension
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Ray Burkes Pension


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    Yet another case of blaming something inanimate when the cause is actually bad parenting. In the above case, internet porn did not cause these 2 brothers to act so horrendously, it was there parents.

    I'm sick of this rubbish.

    I don't like a lot of what is on the internet, but I cannot support censorship in any form. Once you allow it, censorship will continue to grow and the boundary of what is excluded will be pushed further and further back.

    A better solution is to enforce an accurate & global categorisation of all web sites. Web sites that fall into certain classifications can then be blocked by individuals. Each person then chooses their own type of content.

    You can already do this.
    http://www.opendns.com/solutions/household/parental/
    That's a simple to set up, free, opt in solution.


  • #50
    TheReverend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TheReverend


    It is the parents job to supervise there children on the internet, it isnt ****ing hard to do.

    Step 1:
    Have computer in the living room

    Step 2:
    Put password on said computer

    Step 3:
    Use a site blocker(there are many free ones such as opendns)

    Step 4:
    Only let your kid use the net while you are there

    Is it really that hard?

    Also http://www.slate.com/id/2152487/fr/rss/


  • #51
    flynnlives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    your missing the point lads!

    first it was file sharing, then wikileaks, now net neutrality and now this.
    The powers that be will stop at nothing to control and censor the internet.

    I fear the best days of the internet will soon be behind us.
    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.


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  • #52
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    mmmm wikileaks


  • #53
    Shankly Gates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Shankly Gates


    Holybejaysus wrote: »
    So they want to stop the early sexualisation of children do they? Well maybe they should start with:

    -pole dancing kits for children,
    -bra's for pre-teen girls,
    -clothes for kids that say things like 'sexy bitch',
    -Rihanna/Pussycat Dolls/Christina Aguilera/any rapper making videos that resemble soft porn,


    Sort this out and you will have 90% of the problem fixed. But as we all know, that isn't going to happen because there is too much money to be made in it.

    How does wearing a bra have anything to do with having sex earlier?


  • #54
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I think it should be allowed for teenagers and up, cos that is when people start fapping. Not any younger though.


  • #55
    evercloserunion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Well, they're not called the Conservatives for nothing you know. All for small government until it comes to their "role" as guardians of morality.

    I suppose Nick Clegg is all for this too? How liberal and democratic of him.


  • #56
    Setun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭Setun


    I'll never forget the time many years ago when I went online to watch a couple of episode of salad fingers on David Firth's website fat-pie.com, and accidently left out the dash between "fat" and "pie".

    Crikey. :eek: I wouldn't want any future child of mine stumbling across that stuff. Having said that, I would try to be a responsible enough parent to monitor internet usage. Also, I thought you could block "adult content" from your browser? Surely that way makes the most sense?


  • #57
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Daddio wrote: »
    I'll never forget the time many years ago when I went online to watch a couple of episode of salad fingers on David Firth's website fat-pie.com, and accidently left out the dash between "fat" and "pie".

    Crikey. :eek: I wouldn't want any future child of mine stumbling across that stuff. Having said that, I would try to be a responsible enough parent to monitor internet usage. Also, I thought you could block "adult content" from your browser? Surely that way makes the most sense?

    I remember doing that one as well... Never realised one little '-' could make such a massive difference!!


    I do believe children shouldn't have access to porn. Its no way near as to what "sex" is and children do end up believing what they saw in the porno video is what sex is and how they should behave with their girlfriend etc. Its also very addictive and just like any other drug, it does destroy some people's lives. There's a book called "Pornified" which sort of deals with how porn now isn't like the Playboy of old days when it was almost an art form, which now has transformed into this grotesque thing that's skewing people's mind and attitude towards sex.

    Though I am wondering though if its only the porn sites that are gonna get blocked or is there gonna be more that's gonna get censored from the internet...
    Is this the first step towards the control and censorship of the internet?!


  • #58
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    I'm thinking AH has been trolled here, I can find no other info about this anywhere and the OP's link is to an image, not a website.


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If porn gets blocked, then my internet usage will surely decrease about.. 90%.


  • #60
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Amhran Nua wrote: »
    I'm thinking AH has been trolled here, I can find no other info about this anywhere and the OP's link is to an image, not a website.
    No, its NOT a trolling attempt.
    Kop on. You know me better than that! You've read enough of my thousands of posts!

    Here is your god damn link.
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Tech/article484582.ece

    Now if you bother your arse to pay for a subscription to the English Times, you can read it from there!

    ....Which is why I posted a FULL image of the site site for others to read here as secondary back-up/confirmation.
    I have explained this image posting situation now loads of times and if you had bothered your arse to read previous similar posts (which I'm VERY sure you have), you would have kopped this, the fcuk on instead of casting stupid totally unfounded aspersions!

    Without even having the ability to read the details direct from the site, did you even bother your arse to go the Times front page to see the stories headline/link!
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk
    (This will change tomorrow so here is an image back-up for those that are newly reading this thread during the week: http://img510.imageshack.us/i/wwwthesundaytimescoukst.jpg/)
    No, too bloody lazy to do that! Its easier to call a poster with many posts under his belt, a troll!
    Your representation of yourself does you no favours!

    Some bloody party your representing!
    Time to change your slogan:
    "Amhrán Nua, a new political party with same rotten attitude to others as previous ones!"
    Now go away and kop yourself on! I have never trolled in my life!
    Some bloody party indeed if this is the quality of its representatives and attitudes!
    Not even bothering to do their research/homework on the Times site before just going and insulting.
    Some things never change!

    P.S.
    Its an exclusive story that the Times has printed and anyone with half a brain will assume then that it wouldn't YET be all over the net!
    It will be in in your garbage average tabloids in dumbed down form eventually!


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  • #61
    iPlop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    Biggins wrote: »
    No, its NOT a trolling attempt.
    Kop on. You know me better than that! You've read enough of my thousands of posts![\QUOTE]


    I have NEVER known you to troll EVER!.Fair play for posting the links.:)


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