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foreigner workers speaking in their own language in shops etc

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  • #32
    darragh666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭darragh666


    Only if they are loud. I generally find where people believe they cant be understood they talk more loudly.


  • #33
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZJhLscD6i8


  • #34
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Not a foreign language.

    It is if you're in a foreign country. I honestly heard Irish being spoken in a bank here once, don't remember any complaints. I'll assume the OP is against that, too? Well, smetimes.

    Anyway, what nosey git wants to listen in on other people's conversations, anyway?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #35
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I don't even notice it if I am honest.


  • #36
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    ......
    Anyway, what nosey git wants to listen in on other people's conversations, anyway?

    Somebody who maybe imagines something like...

    'Hail, fellow sexy Eastern European Co-worker'
    'Greetings and well met, fellow female sexy Eastern European co-worker. I am tense after today. We should have the hot lesbian sex later, so we can relax'
    '...but it would be wrong to deny the sight of our passion to the citizens of our host nation...if only there was some nosy sad paddy we could ask to watch, and perhaps join in with our hot loving...'


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  • #37
    StereoLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭StereoLove


    eurokev wrote: »
    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)
    It Pisses the hell outa me. They should be told when they start thier job that they should only speak English in the shop out of pollitness to the customers.


  • #38
    Rabble Rabble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    The debate here is going to veer between politically correct and honest. It makes little sense to be over-joyed if someone is talking in a way which is going to exclude you.

    The problem with people talking in their own language if you work with them, or a customer, is exactly what the Harry Enfield sketch observes, it could be about you. It could be an anti-Irish bitch fest. If you are working with them it could be a bitch about the whole office. We dont know, so dont do it, unless there are no other people there.

    If there arent other people there, feel free to talk away in Esperanto, or what ever takes your fancy.

    Its rude to not include the customer is a conversation anyway, is it not? If someone at the counter, shut up, and talk later when he has left or sat down. This is remedial.


  • #39
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    The debate here is going to veer between politically correct and honest. It makes little sense to be over-joyed if someone is talking in a way which is going to exclude you.

    The problem with people talking in their own language if you work with them, or a customer, is exactly what the Harry Enfield sketch observes, it could be about you. It could be an anti-Irish bitch fest. If you are working with them it could be a bitch about the whole office. We dont know, so dont do it, unless there are no other people there.

    If there arent other people there, feel free to talk away in Esperanto, or what ever takes your fancy.

    Its rude to not include the customer is a conversation anyway, is it not? If someone at the counter, shut up, and talk later when he has left or sat down. This is remedial.

    I would agree with you. Wrt the Harry Enfield sketch, its no different to if the two girls were english and were whispering to one another


  • #40
    Dr_Phil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    The problem with people talking in their own language if you work with them, or a customer, is exactly what the Harry Enfield sketch observes, it could be about you. It could be an anti-Irish bitch fest. If you are working with them it could be a bitch about the whole office. We dont know, so dont do it, unless there are no other people there.
    FFS... Could be, but could be not. I don't have such paranoia that everyone talks about me... so not sure if I understand this point. It's not any different from english-speaking people, who politely ask "How are you" and smile, to stab you in the back a while after, is it? I've seen way more examples of that sort of behavior, than foreigners ranthing about you - because they simply don't give a sh*t as much as you think they do.

    The only reason why I support speaking english in a workplace is for sake of integration, good atmosphere in the team, friendship and to have everyone involved in day-to-day life in the company. Not to please anyone's paranoias.


  • #41
    chucken1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    I hate Polish, Russian and Cork.

    They hurt my ears with there horrible sounding language.

    Cant understand a word

    Maybe you should make the effort to learn another language then??

    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.


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  • #42
    Dr_Phil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    chucken1 wrote: »
    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.
    He couldn't even write it properly. FAIL! :)


  • #43
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"


  • #44
    Rabble Rabble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Dr_Phil wrote: »
    FFS... Could be, but could be not. I don't have such paranoia that everyone talks about me... so not sure if I understand this point. It's not any different from english-speaking people, who politely ask "How are you" and smile, to stab you in the back a while after, is it? I've seen way more examples of that sort of behavior, than foreigners ranthing about you - because they simply don't give a sh*t as much as you think they do.

    I didnt say anything about me. I kept me out of it. I have no specific case to complain about. ( The only paranoia here is your certainty that English speakers are out to get you). In general somebody whispering, or talking in a way which you cant understand is rude.

    Most importantly it is rude to talk when serving anyway, if excluding the customer, unless the conversation is related to the work.

    This is why it is banned in most Offices. As for integration, and good atmosphere. That seems to be the same reason, expressed differently.


  • #45
    Dr_Phil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    I didnt say anything about me. I kept me out of it. I have no specific case to complain about. ( The only paranoia here is your certainty that English speakers are out to get you). In general somebody whispering, or talking in a way which you cant understand is rude.
    As I mentioned, I dont have any paranoia, also not stated anything here that could lead anyone to such conclusion.
    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    Most importantly it is rude to talk when serving anyway, if excluding the customer, unless the conversation is related to the work.

    This is why it is banned in most Offices. As for integration, and good atmosphere. That seems to be the same reason, expressed differently.
    Totally agree.


  • #46
    chucken1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    omahaid wrote: »
    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"

    Or response 3: "Its actually interesting to learn something new?..So getting snippits of some peoples conversations can help if you're trying to learn the language. It also gets a smile when you makes an effort to use it :)


  • #47
    Pretty_Pistol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Pretty_Pistol


    I only find it rude if they do it while I'm conversing with them and the other two people start talking to one another in their own language.


  • #48
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    eurokev wrote: »
    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)

    Never bothers me at all, where I live is full of foreigners, its mad though how different some of the accents are..


  • #49
    freckly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭freckly


    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"

    Yes, that's obviously it. We are all inherently annoyed by foreigners or are closet racists. There may just be some of us who are not closed-minded or who have experienced being the foreigner in other countries! Surely some things annoy some of us and don't annoy others. Don't answer for anybody but yourself please.


  • #50
    citizen_p
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    no it dosnt annoy me, it annoys me however when they cant speak english well enough to do their job.

    look at it this way, if you were working somwhere around the world with a foreign laungage and an irish person walked in, your going to talk to them in english (or irish if your both so inclined)


  • #51
    eurokev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭eurokev


    chucken1 wrote: »
    Maybe you should make the effort to learn another language then??

    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.


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  • #52
    gsxr1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    chucken1 wrote: »
    Maybe you should make the effort to learn another language then??

    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.

    Why should I. I just stated I hated the sound of it!

    I live here. Where we all speak English. NOT Pollish.

    If I was to go there I would learn some of their language. And use it when I got there. But I wont . See above reason.

    Im sorry but I think your grasp on who should be making the effort is slightly distorted .

    I do have a grasp of another language by the way. ;)


  • #53
    ebixa82
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    I prefer to hear a couple of fit Eastern European girls speak in their native language than have to suffer two two thick, knacker Dublin munters talking bollix to each other about last night's Fair City or how locked they got after 12 fat frogs the night before...durty knackers


  • #54
    eurokev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭eurokev


    Just to clarify im the furthest thing from racist you could ever meet. I have more foreign friends than irish id say. It is just something that irks me sometimes. I suppose I find it disrepectful. I wouldnt dream of doing it in another persons country. Stop taking the topic too much to heart, Its after hours, HELLO HALLO CZESC!!!


  • #55
    ebixa82
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    Why should I. I just stated I hated the sound of it!

    I live here. Where we all speak English. NOT Pollish.

    If I was to go there I would learn some of their language. And use it when I got there. But I wont . See above reason.

    Im sorry but I think your grasp on who should be making the effort is slightly distorted .

    I do have a grasp of another language by the way. ;)

    Not true.


  • #56
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    freckly wrote: »
    Yes, that's obviously it. We are all inherently annoyed by foreigners or are closet racists. There may just be some of us who are not closed-minded or who have experienced being the foreigner in other countries! Surely some things annoy some of us and don't annoy others. Don't answer for anybody but yourself please.

    I'm not even referring to foreigners. If my two Irish neighbours came in to work and started speaking Esperanto when no-one else could understand them I would be annoyed. My problem is that certain people take pleasure in going against the grain ("Do people even speak other languages? I hadn't noticed.") so they can pretend they are open minded. Part of being open minded is being able to express your annoyance at things that are obviously annoying.


  • #57
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    freckly wrote: »
    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"

    Yes, that's obviously it. We are all inherently annoyed by foreigners or are closet racists. There may just be some of us who are not closed-minded or who have experienced being the foreigner in other countries! Surely some things annoy some of us and don't annoy others. Don't answer for anybody but yourself please.

    What part of the that quote suggests an inherent annoyance at foreigners or racism?


  • #58
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    alex73 wrote: »
    Hmmm,, Are you saying the as a European that we are not allowed to speak one or more the the official languages of Europe?

    Bulgarian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovene, Spanish and Swedish

    Why are people so bother was 2 people are talking about.

    Just goes to show how petty (and nosy) some Irish can be.

    I honestly couldn't care less what people are saying or talking about behind the counter, but if i'm being served I dont expect the person serving me to start talking to their colleague about their holidays or what they got up to the night before. Weather it be in English, Irish, their own language. Wait until your finished serving me and then have your conversation.

    If they want to serve a customer in their own language, what ever it may be, thats fine.


  • #59
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    28064212 wrote: »
    What if they're speaking in Irish? Does that annoy you too?

    In what way does Irish qualify as a foreign language in Ireland?


  • #60
    Chinafoot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    If I'm being served by a cashier I expect them to focus on their job and not have a chat with their workmate. Its rude no matter what language is being used.

    I had it done to me in the local supermarket on Friday and it really annoyed me. The cashier I was dealing with was speaking in Polish to a work colleague at the checkout behind me. They seemed angry about something. Regardless of the language they were using it was the height of fúcking rudeness.

    If someone is not dealing with customers then I couldn't give a toss what language they use.

    A friend of mine from New Zealand works in a bar in Oslo at the moment and he has a work colleague who has barely any Norwegian. She tells the customers they have to speak English when ordering. Unbelievable. No idea how she got the job.


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  • #61
    gsxr1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    Not true.

    Sorry.

    worded wrong.
    Every native Irish person speaks English. And some even know Irish.


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