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foreigner workers speaking in their own language in shops etc

  • 18-12-2010 6:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭eurokev


    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    eurokev wrote: »
    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭travellingbid


    Yes sometimes it bothers me. Especially in supermarkets when putting through your groceries and they shouting back and forth to one another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    What if they're speaking in Irish? Does that annoy you too?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    To right OP - The only time I want to hear a foreign language or accent, is in the bedroom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    eurokev wrote: »
    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)

    Why only sometimes and not all the times?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    I find it extremely ignorant. I have no problem whatsoever with immigrants, however I believe that they should make every effort to integrate into the countries 'way of doing things'. This lack of integration leads to a ghetto mentality which I believe is part of the reason for the trouble in the likes of Bradford in the UK, a continued failure to integrate over a number of years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Ní thuigim OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    eurokev wrote: »
    foreigner workers speaking in their own language in shops etc

    Hate this when I go abroad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    28064212 wrote: »
    What if they're speaking in Irish? Does that annoy you too?

    That annoys me :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    It's one of my pet hates. To be fair most managers etc. do their best to stamp it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    If they are speking to a customer, no. If they are speaking amoungst each other, wouldn't annoy me but would find it a bit rude. I have seen in some shops the supervisor/manager pull them up on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭tasha200


    have to say the irish have done a great job integrating over the years also lol.. couldnt care less as long as they are doing there job, if they spoke swahili... Im not interested in their conversations wether in english irish or whatever, as long as Im not waiting in line and I am served etc... infact, you could say the same about cork people etc. lol.. what you going to say 'speak the queens english'.?????.............. lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    28064212 wrote: »
    What if they're speaking in Irish? Does that annoy you too?

    Not a foreign language.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    28064212 wrote: »
    What if they're speaking in Irish? Does that annoy you too?

    Would annoy me if it wasent in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    It does annoy me a little bit. I find it worse when colleagues do it and you are just left there twiddling your thumbs like a spanner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    eurokev wrote: »
    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)

    Of course not. What a stupid question.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    28064212 wrote: »
    What if they're speaking in Irish? Does that annoy you too?
    that is quite possibly the most stupid argument i have seen.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tbh shop workers chatting amongst themselves whilst you are standing there as a customer is irritating anyway. The language thing wouldn't bug me really though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    I'm not racist but...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭freckly


    Not in the slightest! I worked abroad and babbled away in English to my colleagues because they spoke English to me. One day another colleague made a complaint about this at the staff meeting and the boss told her to cop on (a phrase he must have learned from me!). As long as workers here have enough English to communicate with the customer, who cares what they speak to each other!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Mr Johnson


    Why do you want to listen to other people's private conversations ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    Is fuath liom an Béarla oibrithe a labhraíonn Béarla.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    I can't really rant about it too much, cause I'm an immigrant myself (not using too much of my own language tho, not in public places anyway) but I was on the bus the other day and that Chinese girl, yapping over the phone just behind my head... 5 min... 10.... 20...


    I admit I got headache, simply because I couldn't understand a word and it was nothing else but a pure, disturbing, meaningless noise to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    irish-stew wrote: »
    If they are speking to a customer, no. If they are speaking amoungst each other, wouldn't annoy me but would find it a bit rude. I have seen in some shops the supervisor/manager pull them up on it.


    Hmmm,, Are you saying the as a European that we are not allowed to speak one or more the the official languages of Europe?

    Bulgarian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovene, Spanish and Swedish

    Why are people so bother was 2 people are talking about.

    Just goes to show how petty (and nosy) some Irish can be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I hate bogger's speaking boggerish in Dublin shops, really annoying.

    Find it a lot up around Rathmines.

    But in reality, it doesn't bother me in the slightest if a foreigner speaks in their own language around me, once its not to me.

    Although it annoy's the bejaysus out of me when I'm being driven home by an African taxi driver and he's speaking Africanese on the phone for the journey - I find thats the majority of 'em, although they're on blue tooth its a freaker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    I hate Polish, Russian and Cork.

    They hurt my ears with there horrible sounding language.

    Cant understand a word


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭eurokev


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    I find it extremely ignorant. I have no problem whatsoever with immigrants, however I believe that they should make every effort to integrate into the countries 'way of doing things'. This lack of integration leads to a ghetto mentality which I believe is part of the reason for the trouble in the likes of Bradford in the UK, a continued failure to integrate over a number of years


    OMG

    my god

    When I read your user name I read it as 'to my ass'

    are you trying to tell us something there ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I dont like to hear people blabbing away without being able to understand em tbh, they could be saying anything!

    It doesnt really bother me though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    The only problem I have is when they mutter something in their native language after getting a €50 note, if you're gonna be a smart ass, have the bottle to say it in a language I understand. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭darragh666


    Only if they are loud. I generally find where people believe they cant be understood they talk more loudly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Not a foreign language.

    It is if you're in a foreign country. I honestly heard Irish being spoken in a bank here once, don't remember any complaints. I'll assume the OP is against that, too? Well, smetimes.

    Anyway, what nosey git wants to listen in on other people's conversations, anyway?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I don't even notice it if I am honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    ......
    Anyway, what nosey git wants to listen in on other people's conversations, anyway?

    Somebody who maybe imagines something like...

    'Hail, fellow sexy Eastern European Co-worker'
    'Greetings and well met, fellow female sexy Eastern European co-worker. I am tense after today. We should have the hot lesbian sex later, so we can relax'
    '...but it would be wrong to deny the sight of our passion to the citizens of our host nation...if only there was some nosy sad paddy we could ask to watch, and perhaps join in with our hot loving...'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭StereoLove


    eurokev wrote: »
    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)
    It Pisses the hell outa me. They should be told when they start thier job that they should only speak English in the shop out of pollitness to the customers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    The debate here is going to veer between politically correct and honest. It makes little sense to be over-joyed if someone is talking in a way which is going to exclude you.

    The problem with people talking in their own language if you work with them, or a customer, is exactly what the Harry Enfield sketch observes, it could be about you. It could be an anti-Irish bitch fest. If you are working with them it could be a bitch about the whole office. We dont know, so dont do it, unless there are no other people there.

    If there arent other people there, feel free to talk away in Esperanto, or what ever takes your fancy.

    Its rude to not include the customer is a conversation anyway, is it not? If someone at the counter, shut up, and talk later when he has left or sat down. This is remedial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    The debate here is going to veer between politically correct and honest. It makes little sense to be over-joyed if someone is talking in a way which is going to exclude you.

    The problem with people talking in their own language if you work with them, or a customer, is exactly what the Harry Enfield sketch observes, it could be about you. It could be an anti-Irish bitch fest. If you are working with them it could be a bitch about the whole office. We dont know, so dont do it, unless there are no other people there.

    If there arent other people there, feel free to talk away in Esperanto, or what ever takes your fancy.

    Its rude to not include the customer is a conversation anyway, is it not? If someone at the counter, shut up, and talk later when he has left or sat down. This is remedial.

    I would agree with you. Wrt the Harry Enfield sketch, its no different to if the two girls were english and were whispering to one another


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    The problem with people talking in their own language if you work with them, or a customer, is exactly what the Harry Enfield sketch observes, it could be about you. It could be an anti-Irish bitch fest. If you are working with them it could be a bitch about the whole office. We dont know, so dont do it, unless there are no other people there.
    FFS... Could be, but could be not. I don't have such paranoia that everyone talks about me... so not sure if I understand this point. It's not any different from english-speaking people, who politely ask "How are you" and smile, to stab you in the back a while after, is it? I've seen way more examples of that sort of behavior, than foreigners ranthing about you - because they simply don't give a sh*t as much as you think they do.

    The only reason why I support speaking english in a workplace is for sake of integration, good atmosphere in the team, friendship and to have everyone involved in day-to-day life in the company. Not to please anyone's paranoias.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    I hate Polish, Russian and Cork.

    They hurt my ears with there horrible sounding language.

    Cant understand a word

    Maybe you should make the effort to learn another language then??

    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    chucken1 wrote: »
    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.
    He couldn't even write it properly. FAIL! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Dr_Phil wrote: »
    FFS... Could be, but could be not. I don't have such paranoia that everyone talks about me... so not sure if I understand this point. It's not any different from english-speaking people, who politely ask "How are you" and smile, to stab you in the back a while after, is it? I've seen way more examples of that sort of behavior, than foreigners ranthing about you - because they simply don't give a sh*t as much as you think they do.

    I didnt say anything about me. I kept me out of it. I have no specific case to complain about. ( The only paranoia here is your certainty that English speakers are out to get you). In general somebody whispering, or talking in a way which you cant understand is rude.

    Most importantly it is rude to talk when serving anyway, if excluding the customer, unless the conversation is related to the work.

    This is why it is banned in most Offices. As for integration, and good atmosphere. That seems to be the same reason, expressed differently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    I didnt say anything about me. I kept me out of it. I have no specific case to complain about. ( The only paranoia here is your certainty that English speakers are out to get you). In general somebody whispering, or talking in a way which you cant understand is rude.
    As I mentioned, I dont have any paranoia, also not stated anything here that could lead anyone to such conclusion.
    Most importantly it is rude to talk when serving anyway, if excluding the customer, unless the conversation is related to the work.

    This is why it is banned in most Offices. As for integration, and good atmosphere. That seems to be the same reason, expressed differently.
    Totally agree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    omahaid wrote: »
    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"

    Or response 3: "Its actually interesting to learn something new?..So getting snippits of some peoples conversations can help if you're trying to learn the language. It also gets a smile when you makes an effort to use it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Pretty_Pistol


    I only find it rude if they do it while I'm conversing with them and the other two people start talking to one another in their own language.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    eurokev wrote: »
    Does it annoy you?

    Does it?

    Does it?

    It does me sometimes!!! But doesnt other times

    Kurve:)

    Never bothers me at all, where I live is full of foreigners, its mad though how different some of the accents are..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭freckly


    TBH OP, you well get two responses here

    Response 1: "Yes it does annoy me"
    Response 2: "No, as I am so PC I cannot recognise any differences between people, I actually find it difficult to tell if someone if male or female. Also, I can't admit someone from a different country does something that annoys me as it is racist"


    Yes, that's obviously it. We are all inherently annoyed by foreigners or are closet racists. There may just be some of us who are not closed-minded or who have experienced being the foreigner in other countries! Surely some things annoy some of us and don't annoy others. Don't answer for anybody but yourself please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    no it dosnt annoy me, it annoys me however when they cant speak english well enough to do their job.

    look at it this way, if you were working somwhere around the world with a foreign laungage and an irish person walked in, your going to talk to them in english (or irish if your both so inclined)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭eurokev


    chucken1 wrote: »
    Maybe you should make the effort to learn another language then??

    Also interesting that the OP thinks he's being smart with his attempt at Polish at the end of his post.


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