Would you take a Hit from a Non Airsoft Projectile?

War Machine 539 wrote: »

Your going to have to explain this because its nonsensical! I think the assault rifles and grown men in full on military fatiques would take precedence to a foam knife.
You cant honestly say a foam knife is more dangerous then a BB.

I can and do. Sure, if the knife is actually made of nothing but foam, it's safe, but then it's useless for throwing as it has very low mass with a protracted shape and a cavitated surface. Throwing a sponge is more effective.
For it to be in any way "throwable", it needs relatively high mass. And therein lies the problem as higher mass means higher imparted kinetic energy on the target when hit.

War Machine 539 wrote: »

Honestly? A foam knife? I would let you, your site marshals and all members playing throw it at me with all they have. Get the assessor down if needs be so your arse is covered insurance wise.

Fact is the projectiles I am talking about are allowed in other roleplaying games, that dont use REPLICA FIREARMS.

Perhaps you could do us a favour and talk to your insurance company as a method of assessing the ideas feasibilty? I mean why speculate when a definitive answer could be given?

As for the reputation of your site, I have been airsofting a while now and never heard of your site, I think your safe.

listen you asked for a site operators opinion i gave you mine, if my insurance company taught it was the best idea since sliced bread i still wouldnt allow it, if you wanna play with bows & arrows join an archery club if u wanna were tights and chainmail go larping, if you wanna airsoft use the equipment we are legally allowed to use, the is an old saying if its not broke dont fix it.

War Machine 539 wrote: »

Im sensing slight agitation, relax Stone Cold. Under that train of thought, the fantastic AEGs people buy and then upgrade is pointless. Im not trying to fix airsoft but theres nothing wrong with wanting to add another layer of complexity to it. Thank you for your opinion I genuinely appreciate it!
Clearly you like to keep a Milsim site and I respect that!

lmao the more you post the more i get the feeling this is just a big wind up, i hope you find a site that with let you & little john play togethar good night and good luck

War Machine 539 wrote: »

These things inspire, why not let them?

Inspire, sure. Copy, no.

The Masada and SCAR were incredibly popular long before CoD arrived. The F2000 has been one of the most demanded rifles by airsofters worldwide for about five years now, it's popularity is based on it having only just been released. The FAL... well that was never popular...

Anyway, my point is that taking a lead from a game style like capture the flag (screw you CoD, that's been on the go since Quake) is fine, but that doesn't mean it needs to be copied verbatim. You don't need throwing knives any more than you need players attempting to teabag the "n00bz I juz pwn3d!1!!1".

Chuck the Buck wrote: »

@ War Machine:

What your talking about doing is fiddling with what ultimately is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands and converting it into a toy for want of a better word. I would imagine that it wouldn't be the easiest thing to do, or very safe for that matter.

If you're dropping the power of you're bow I assume you are going to change the limbs vs chopping bits off it or making the string loose? And if its tactical you're after would you be using a compound bow (the ones with the cams on the end of the limbs) you're going to use, would I be correct?

So any chance of a reply so we can understand better what you're thinking about?

What? No? Is that not what we are talking about?:rolleyes:

War Machine 539 wrote: »

but answer me this, was the FN 2000s production just a coincidence with the game? And if it wasnt, why did they rush it?

It was released quite a bit after the game and was in development long before the game was. If people were seriously die-hard in need of an F2000, JLS have been making them since '05.
Also, they didn't rush it. Quite the opposite, the release was delayed quite a bit for extra testing and was phased geographically. It's popularity is due to the fact that it's a shagging masterpiece and people have been waiting a long time for a good one.
G&G are getting seriously clever at creating rifles people want that no-one else produces, or that are simply not as good. Nobody makes a Bofors AK5 apart from them (even though sod all people outside of Sweden know what they are) and their P90 and WA2000 are likely to crush the current offerings by other brands.
Sometimes popularity is just down to the item being great and the maker being trusted.

War Machine 539 wrote: »

Something like that yeah! Lads Maid Marion is calling!

That would explain the desire for a longbow...

And there, in clear English, is the crux of the problem. For a knife to be thrown, it needs to be weighted. You either do this by using a material with an adequate weight, or you create this mythical foam knife of which you speak so frequently, and put an adequate weight inside it (which essentially just brings you back to square one).
Before you say it, adding some sort of rule like "only aim for the chest/back" won't do a damn thing for people who a) don't know how to actually throw a knife (read: everyone) and b) simply miss. Both of these will result in the head being just as likely to be hit by a flying, pointed and weighted object.

I go back to what I said before. Let's go for a skirmish. I'll pelt you with American footballs from ten yards and we'll see how a safe object can end up being dangerous when you suddenly decide to throw it at someone.

Also, I don't think my opinion is dominating this so much as it being a large case of "you're on your own there" from anyone else reading this. I have posted a lot in this because I feel pretty damn strongly that it's a ridiculous idea that will never see the light of day and never should.

War Machine 539 wrote: »

Essentially I want to weaken the strings to almost the power of a childs toy! In a nutshell!

Out of the nutshell how do you propose to 'weaken' the strings and keep the bow working? I'm genuinely interested in how you propose to deal with lowering the power of a bow (its not like changing the spring in an AEG).

Just my opinion on the original idea of the bow ect.

on some other forums there is a bit of talk about weird alternative weapons occasionally carried, like foam swords ect, but they are melee weapons carried for a joke, not thrown or fired in anyway. I don't see how you could practically use a firing bow on the field, especially with a range of 80 meters, because to fire a soft item that far, it would need a tremendous initial velocity, like firing from a compressed air cannon.

the problem you would have would be that from close range a bow with go through anything because, as the initial velocity would be so high to achieve the range, that the shaft would have so much energy in it that it would continue on through the head of the foam or whatever was on it.

the obvious issue of a weapon with a very low power like a larp weapon is that before you would be able to get close enough to use it, you would get hit and taken out by anyone, even with a springer pistol.

overall I wouldn't play with anyone with a compound bow modified, for the two reasons mentioned in the first part of this sentence.

play.
modified.

last point, the posts about energy and weight ect miss the simple dynamic that give bbs range and accuracy.

spin. spin. spin. spin.

Edited to.remove the odd predictive text word that came up.