Would you give a job to someone with Bi-polar disorder

Donkey Oaty · 15-12-2010 03:01AM

Princess Peach wrote: »

Name one famous brain surgeon right now!

This one might be of interest.

Johro · 15-12-2010 03:02AM

sheesh wrote: »

so actors writers and the occasional visionary politician

but what if you are not an actor writer etc

no famous bi polar brain surgeons

Its sort of a mark of genius in creative ciricles

I'm wondering if it would affect your chances in getting a regular job? where being a genius might be a problem. Admin, some technical jobs, everyday jobs.

And Facekicker. Don't forget Facekicker. Mods gotta be bi-polar too. From what I've seen anyway.:p
I'm sure there's lots of people in regular jobs who are bi-polar.
We just don't hear about it coz they're not famous.

HellFireClub · 15-12-2010 03:09AM

Personally speaking, I probably would, but the sane guy at the controls says he definitely wouldn't....

Donkey Oaty · 15-12-2010 03:09AM

By the way, the documentary movie "No Kidding, Me 2" by Joe Pantoliano has an interview with a bipolar brain surgeon.

Really.

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:14AM

HellFireClub wrote: »

Personally speaking, I probably would, but the sane guy at the controls says he definitely wouldn't....

And he's probably right...i myself would, but then its easy for me to say because I'm not in a situation where I could or not give someone a job.

OutlawPete · 15-12-2010 03:15AM

tudlytops wrote: »

If I had asked would you give someone in a wheelchair a job, would I have had the some comments.

It's After Hours and it's after 2am what's more.

The first 71 posts on these threads are always jokes, then they will subside when some twit says that he wouldn't employ someone with bi-polar and then the real debate will start on the topic.

Promise.

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:17AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

It's After Hours and it's after 2am what's more.

The first 71 posts on these threads are always jokes, then they will subside when some twit says that he wouldn't employ someone with bi-polar and then the real debate will start on the topic.

Promise.

Don't mind a bit of a joke, hell I joke about it myself, but some comments were uncalled for...

javaboy · 15-12-2010 03:23AM

Princess Peach wrote: »

Name one famous brain surgeon right now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scBlzrJ0leI

Star Bingo · 15-12-2010 03:28AM

i'd give em the job

oh, wait i wouldn't

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:29AM

As mush as I would like to bilive it, I'm not convinced.

He may have been a brain surgeon, but there is no way his still doing it, no one that shakes that much and is hard of hearing can continue operating.

javaboy · 15-12-2010 03:30AM

tudlytops wrote: »

As mush as I would like to bilive it, I'm not convinced.

He may have been a brain surgeon, but there is no way his still doing it, no one that shakes that much and is hard of hearing can continue operating.

Why would the video lie?

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:33AM

javaboy wrote: »

Why would the video lie?

Why not, there a number of programs that make fun of stuff, is that interview on anywhere else like CNN, Sky news, etc...

Just saying if a surgeon develops tremor he/she cannot continue to operate...

FouxDaFaFa · 15-12-2010 03:35AM

Sisko wrote: »

I've only ever encountered bi polar people online.

I wouldn't be so sure. It's not as if it's the first thing people talk about when they meet someone. You might know a few people with it.

Mrmoe · 15-12-2010 03:37AM

tudlytops wrote: »

As mush as I would like to bilive it, I'm not convinced.

He may have been a brain surgeon, but there is no way his still doing it, no one that shakes that much and is hard of hearing can continue operating.

hmm.......

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:37AM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. It's not as if it's the first thing people talk about when they meet someone. You might know a few people with it.

You right there, its not have it can be spotted by looking at someone or just chatting.

And many their friends just know them as being moody kinda people...

Sisko · 15-12-2010 03:37AM

feckin hell op, you really have an inability to understand jokes. :eek:

Still, wouldn't see how that would effect most jobs.

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:39AM

Sisko wrote: »

feckin hell op, you really have an inability to understand jokes. :eek:

Still, wouldn't see how that would effect most jobs.

????

And just what did i do now?

Sisko · 15-12-2010 03:43AM

I'm too tired to explain, I recommend calmly re-reading , out loud maybe, all the posts in this thread and try to see what it is you may have missed.

Or maybe just stay the hell away from afterhours before you lose yourself in a sea of horrible misunderstandings.

Also, have a look at some of the other youtube videos from 'The Onion'.

Before I go I'll say it again though, I don't think its an issue for the employer. Its the person themselves, and bi-polar or whatever else does not define you. So don't let it.

Novella · 15-12-2010 03:43AM

tudlytops wrote: »

because it isn't something they can hide long-term, not even short-term in some cases and if the employer wasn't aware the they just be let go.

I think maybe you're the one who doesn't quite understand the illness. What exactly is it about bi-polar disorder you think couldn't be hidden?

HellFireClub · 15-12-2010 03:44AM

To answer your question OP, knowing two people with bipolar disorder, no I wouldn't give either of them a job, based on how I've seen one person I know with the condition behave, and this is someone who claims to be suffering from a mild form of the condition and takes their medication regularly.

Most people I think who do not suffer from bipolar disorder, would really struggle to cope with the mood swings and the wide swings in behavioural actions that come with a bipolar sufferer. I struggle to maintain friendships with the two folks I know, as for working with them, not a chance in hell and the folks I know have real serious difficulties maintaining normal professional relationships in work, they tend to end up in crazy disputes with co workers which must be very hard to manage in terms of keeping a team of people motivated and positive.

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:48AM

Novella wrote: »

I think maybe you're the one who doesn't quite understand the illness. What exactly is it about bi-polar disorder you think couldn't be hidden?

Let me see, the manics where they are better then anyone else, can't stop still, can't sleep, do 101 jobs at the some time but finish none, or the depressive, where they can't get up, can't stop crying or simple seat there and can't do anything.

Or if you want the rapid mix cycles where they are manic and depressed at the some time.

Pretty hard to hide this.

If you bi-polar II you may have a chance to hide it, but BPI or rapid cycles have no chance at hiding it.

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 03:49AM

Sisko wrote: »

I'm too tired to explain, I recommend calmly re-reading , out loud maybe, all the posts in this thread and try to see what it is you may have missed.

Or maybe just stay the hell away from afterhours before you lose yourself in a sea of horrible misunderstandings.

Also, have a look at some of the other youtube videos from 'The Onion'.

Before I go I'll say it again though, I don't think its an issue for the employer. Its the person themselves, and bi-polar or whatever else does not define you. So don't let it.

I just expressed an opinion and said "I" don't think so, didn't state a fact.

As for the jokes, maybe it is because I do not see it a joke issue..

Novella · 15-12-2010 03:55AM

tudlytops wrote: »

Let me see, the manics where they are better then anyone else, can't stop still, can't sleep, do 101 jobs at the some time but finish none, or the depressive, where they can't get up, can't stop crying or simple seat there and can't do anything.

Or if you want the rapid mix cycles where they are manic and depressed at the some time.

Pretty hard to hide this.

If you bi-polar II you may have a chance to hide it, but BPI or rapid cycles have no chance at hiding it.

It's an illness, it can be controlled with medication. Also, if a person has been living with bi-polar for a while, often they can recognise triggers and can avoid mania/depression. Plus there's the fact that so many people live with bi-polar for years undiagnosed and they don't try to hide anything because they don't know they're ill, so obviously it's very do-able.

tudlytops · 15-12-2010 04:02AM

Novella wrote: »

It's an illness, it can be controlled with medication. Also, if a person has been living with bi-polar for a while, often they can recognise triggers and can avoid mania/depression. Plus there's the fact that so many people live with bi-polar for years undiagnosed and they don't try to hide anything because they don't know they're ill, so obviously it's very do-able.

BPII maybe, but once in changed from BPII to BPI, they cannot hide it.

And if they have mix cycles even less.

The a big number never finds the meds that work or spend years trying.

There are many combinations to BP, so obviously i am talking about the ones who cannot hide it, if they can then the question doesn't need to be asked.

Novella · 15-12-2010 04:13AM

tudlytops wrote: »

BPII maybe, but once in changed from BPII to BPI, they cannot hide it.

And if they have mix cycles even less.

The a big number never finds the meds that work or spend years trying.

There are many combinations to BP, so obviously i am talking about the ones who cannot hide it, if they can then the question doesn't need to be asked.

You didn't specify in the OP, you just said bi-polar. I believe the majority would be able to function without having their employers thinking, "OMG, bet that guy's bi-polar!". Perhaps they'd think he was a bit different maybe, if any of his behaviour stood out or if he took more sick days than other employees, they might question that. However, I do think sufferers of bi-polar, especially those under-going treatment are perfectly employable.

shtopthelights · 15-12-2010 04:29AM

tudlytops wrote: »

I just expressed an opinion and said "I" don't think so, didn't state a fact.

As for the jokes, maybe it is because I do not see it a joke issue..

I think the point being made, previously -sorry, I don't recall the username, but I thanked them- was that you seem, for whatever reason, to be unable to 'read'/understand implied meanings/sarcasm/humour generally.

(It's not a personal or illness-related quip, it's an observation.)

This is a common enough condition, but usually sufferers do not come to light among the general boards public, as they tend to associate within their own peer groups, comprised most often of >15 yr olds as well as people who don't post in AH...

I am perfectly able to empathise with your/others' feelings/perspectives re. disability/employment/future security etc.... I was diagnosed with a potentially disabling condition myself four years ago, and while it's been a major head and sometimes body-fnck at various points over the last few years, I'd like to think, at least, that this hasn't been a barrier to me having a sense of humour..

People aren't making fun of the condition itself, merely people's reactions to it and your obliviousness to the intended meaning of their posts.

If the worst comes to the 'worst', I'll be the one doing wheelies in the nursing home...

The best advice? 'Laughter is the best medicine'

Try to lighten up, for your own sake, however much you've been hoodwinked by the label, or reality of your illness, you owe that to yourself....oh yeah, re. the aforementioned saying, I'm a right ole fookin' idiom, admittedly, I do know it...

mgbgt1978 · 15-12-2010 09:15AM

Lets bring the OP down to the playground for a go on the Mood Swings:D

God, I hope they're not a Gemini, or the 4 of them will kick the crap out of me.

For a while there this thread was in danger of turning serious and getting moved to the health section......can't have that, surely what happens in AH stays in AH.

Mercy Seat · 15-12-2010 09:38AM

Awesome jokes in here

I think it would be down to the person going for the interview, whether they thought they would have issues in employment or not. Some people work perfectly well and consistently despite the illness, others, cannot be as reliable. I know a good friend of mine whose medication keeps her relatively stable, but she's still quite vulnerable to hypomanic episodes, which usually disrupt her ability to work. Not to mention the fact that many of the medications have side effects that can be quite debilitating in themselves.

Guill · 15-12-2010 09:51AM

Yes,
:mad:I mean no.

Well Maybe.

MarkR · 15-12-2010 09:52AM

Yes.

No.

Yes?

No.

Would you give a job to someone with Bi-polar disorder

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