Unique Airsoft gun

AGB_Ghost · 09-12-2010 12:15am #1

What airsoft gun would you like to see, a unique crazy one that would be near impossible to turn into an AEG :P

I would love a H&K G11

whydave · 09-12-2010 12:36am

AICW - Advanced Infantry Combat Weapon (Australia)
http://world.guns.ru/assault/austr/aicw-e.html

Evade · 09-12-2010 12:37am

The G11 looks like it would be easy to turn into an AEG. I'd say a P90 gearbox would fit in that shell without any modification.
I'd like to see some ready made AEGs from sci-fi movies and video games. Who wouldn't want some of the blasters from Star Wars, especially if they had built in tracer units?

The guns in the Killzone video games look really cool too.

damagegt · 09-12-2010 12:40am

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The Daewoo K11

This is taken from wiki

The Daewoo K11 is an assault rifle chambered to fire 5.56mm rounds, as well as 20mm air-burst shells from its over barrel Two conventional 20mm shells either detonate immediately on impact or on a timed fuse after impact. A third type of shell is controlled by the weapon's integrated electronics to explode a few meters from the target, yielding an air burst effect capable of killing targets within a 6m area and seriously wounding those within a 8m area. Users enter a range at which the shell is to detonate, allowing targets in ditches, in buildings, or behind walls to be destroyed without requiring the shell to strike the target.

TNTQ · 09-12-2010 12:41am

whydave wrote: »

AICW - Advanced Infantry Combat Weapon (Australia)
http://world.guns.ru/assault/austr/aicw-e.html

We could definitely get 2 gearboxes in there

Double barrel craziness

Might sacrifice an Aug A2 to try

damagegt · 09-12-2010 12:42am

whydave wrote: »

AICW - Advanced Infantry Combat Weapon (Australia)
http://world.guns.ru/assault/austr/aicw-e.html

HHHmmm i wonder what the base model for this was?

Evade · 09-12-2010 1:14am

AGB_Ghost wrote: »

The G11 fires in a unique way, it's mag is loaded into the front of the gun and it fires through it's magazine in triple bursts, the real thing has 48 round mag and leaves no shells, the body would be simple the problem is making it fire through it's own magazine :O

The magazine is beside the barrel, it doesn't shoot through the magazine.

CpcRc · 09-12-2010 1:51am

whydave wrote: »

AICW - Advanced Infantry Combat Weapon (Australia)
http://world.guns.ru/assault/austr/aicw-e.html

That looks a hell of a lot like the OICW prototype by H&K, the XM29 OICW.
The XM29 was a prototype weapon that was an airburst assault weapon first and a kinetic energy assault rifle second. Using a computer-assisted sight with laser rangefinder and thermal and night vision capabilities.

Unfortunately the project was put on hold:( because it was too heavy and difficult. It was split into two parts. Increment one was to design the special grenade launcher on its own and increment two was for a modern assault rifle. The XM8 was partially developed to met this requirement. Once the two were created they would try to put them together to create the XM29.

Back to the point, I would love this grenade launcher/assault rifle combo in airsoft because it just looks amazing. Plus it was designed to use a magazine of 20mm explosive round as well as a mag of 5.56 NATO bullets(30 round magazine).

original article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM29_OICW
and another link: http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/xm29-oicw-e.html

CpcRc · 09-12-2010 2:04am

I'd like to thank whydave for the link to that website with the prototypes.

NakedDex · 09-12-2010 2:28am

I'd like to see the H&K OICW, personally (not the one above, the "proper one"). I'm seeing a lot of mentions for the combined systems above (including that K11 I mentioned on another thread), but this is the one I'd really like to see. Apart from being a personal favourite, one of the design elements of it appeals to me, that being the ability to seperate the KE rifle from the HE cannon. The KE rifle section is essentially a trimmed down G36 (or a bulked up MP7, depending on which mark prototype you're looking at).
Having such an option would give it great flexibility in actual airsoft gaming, where the HE canon would serve as, essentially a shower-shot grenade launcher (using, I'd imagine similar rounds to the old CAW Kampfpistole or some form of hybrid TM tri-barrel shotgun with an electric drive) and the KE rifle would serve as both the KE rifle for the system, and as a releaseable, standalone assault rifle for games where the full system is not required or wanted.

In a more realistic sense, I'd like;

AI AW50F - Simply because I prefer how it looks to any other .50 rifle and find the AI design of stock to be far more comfortable than any other bolt action rifle.

H&K MSG90 - I've been hankering after one of these for years. I've heard of one being made as a custom job on the ASI forums a few years ago, but not even a rumour of any companies actually producing one despite it's similarity to the G3/33 range.

Ithaca, M870 or M26 - Specifically in a Masterkey format. I know there is a replacement frame kit for the M870, but it's expensive on it's own (not to mention the cost of the actual shotgun added in) and - from what I remember - a fairly involved modification. Wouldn't be hugely difficult for someone to manufacture one of their shotguns without the stock, grip, longer barrel etc and weld on a bayonet and barrel mount lug instead.

MG3 - Come on, it's long overdue.

NakedDex · 09-12-2010 2:44am

CpcRc wrote: »

The XM29 was a prototype weapon that was a special grenade launcher first and an assault rifle second.

It was never designed as a grenade launcher. The system was actually a personal cannon with programmable rounds. The concept was to give an individual rifleman the ability to engage hardened targets - including structures and light armoured vehicles like IFV's - where grenades are designed more for use on grouped/covered infantry and unarmoured vehicles like jeeps and trucks.
Launchable grenades, by their nature, are a large, heavy, slow-travelling round with a high payload being the main pay-off for relatively short range and inaccuracy.
The HE cannon system used on the OICW, AICW, K11, PAPOP and about half a dozen other models from various countries is designed to fire a smaller projectile at a much higher velocity along a trajectory path closer to that of a KE round than a launchable grenade, thus imparting much greater accuracy and penetration ability. The programmable system isn't on all variants, but those that do have it use it to give the flexibility of use against group targets also, mimicing the role of the traditional 40mm grenades by using airburst at a programmed point, where the grenade would normally have fallen and burst on impact. The payload of the smaller cannon round (generally between 20mm and 35mm) is obviously considerably less, but the physics of an airburst versus a ground burst balance it against the 40mm grenade effectiveness somewhat.

Anyway, that's gone a bit off topic...

This is also usually the thread that pops up every year where I rant about nobody making a Bofors AK5, but G&G are solving that within the next few weeks. Thank smeg...

Captain Chaos · 09-12-2010 2:52am

Still OT, while the XM29 was split into the XM8 and XM25 programs. The XM8 was halted but has since resumed testing and is currently in limbo. The XM25 has just begun or will shortly begin limited combat trails in Afganistan, like the SCAR L and H did last year. The SCAR L will be dropped by SOCOM but they will keep the 600 or so Ls that they have and will buy only the SCAR H variants as much as the budget allows.

Big up on the AK5 from G&G. Crosses fingers for an AK5C mod kit and mags.

NakedDex · 09-12-2010 2:58am

Ironically, the original OICW's used, then prototype, MP7's, then G36's. It was later that the XM8 ended up in the mix. The former two being the big success stories really. I already went on a rant about the XM25 over in the OT thread...

I don't see an AK5C kit coming out any time soon. It's taken this long just to get the AK5 and AK5S. Apart from receiver, the C is a whole other ball game from front to back.

CpcRc · 09-12-2010 2:58am

NakedDex wrote: »

It was never designed as a grenade launcher. The system was actually a personal cannon with programmable rounds. The concept was to give an individual rifleman the ability to engage hardened targets, where grenades are designed more for use on group targets.
Launchable grenades, by their nature, are a large, heavy, slow-travelling round with a high payload being the main pay-off for relatively short range and inaccuracy.
The HE cannon system used on the OICW, AICW, K11, PAPOP and about half a dozen other models from various countries is designed to fire a smaller projectile at a much higher velocity along a trajectory path closer to that of a KE round than a launchable grenade, thus imparting much greater accuracy and penetration ability. The programmable system isn't on all variants, but those that do have it use it to give the flexibility of use against group targets also, mimicing the role of the traditional 40mm grenades by using airburst at a programmed point, where the grenade would normally have fallen and burst on impact. The payload of the smaller cannon round (generally between 20mm and 35mm) is obviously considerably less, but the physics of an airburst versus a ground burst balance it against the 40mm grenade effectiveness somewhat.

I know I made that mistake. I know that it uses airbursting rounds and that the 20-25mm rounds are far different from 40mm grenades and in more ways than one. I just thought of a grenade when it was projected explosive ammunition, sorry:P Messed up on the techs there. Great to see someone else who likes it.

I think that the two components were supposed to run off one trigger and making the gun separable could cause problems there. It would have to be an electronic system rather than a mechanical one in my opinion for the prototype.

I still love it because I love H&K guns. They've made and had a hand in some great iconic guns and prototypes.

If only I could try and make one some day.

NakedDex · 09-12-2010 3:07am

The fire system was electronic. Essentially the fire selector had five positions, Safe, KE Semi, KE Auto, HE and Safe. The trigger was weighted as a regular trigger would be, but simply sent a signal to the on-board computer for actual fire control. The original systems were detachable as they used a simple set of contacts between each component, thus allowing the KE system to be used independantly of the HE system, but not vice-versa.

Anyway, OT again.

Another one for the list of things someone might actually bother to make - Steyr pistols. I know there's a CO2 NBB one but I'd love a GBB version of one of the M-series. Second only to the P99 in sheer comfort to hold, and that's saying something.

Stonewolf · 09-12-2010 3:52pm

How about an EM-2 GBB?

For alternative history milsiming!

gungun · 09-12-2010 9:18pm

Have dboys released their m240 yet? Dying to get me one of them:(

Paddy The Pirate · 09-12-2010 9:35pm

Jaysus, if i could get myself one of these things :eek:

Waait... maybe this would be better?

Stonewolf · 09-12-2010 10:01pm

Daft computer game gun is daft

Paddy The Pirate · 09-12-2010 10:15pm

But.. nonetheless:) Its pretty

Stonewolf · 09-12-2010 10:47pm

Actually I think it's fugly and overdone

Paddy The Pirate · 09-12-2010 11:00pm

really? each to their own

DICEMAN7 · 10-12-2010 2:02am

NakedDex wrote: »

The fire system was electronic. Essentially the fire selector had five positions, Safe, KE Semi, KE Auto, HE and Safe. The trigger was weighted as a regular trigger would be, but simply sent a signal to the on-board computer for actual fire control. The original systems were detachable as they used a simple set of contacts between each component, thus allowing the KE system to be used independantly of the HE system, but not vice-versa.

Anyway, OT again.

Another one for the list of things someone might actually bother to make - Steyr pistols. I know there's a CO2 NBB one but I'd love a GBB version of one of the M-series. Second only to the P99 in sheer comfort to hold, and that's saying something.

is it this one Dex http://www.intrudershop.com.tw/show_product_eng.asp?idproduct=1674#top

NakedDex · 10-12-2010 2:17am

Yeah, that's the CO2 NBB version. Nice performer, though all NBB pistols disappoint me really (apart from the Maruzen P99 NBB, which is easily the quietest pistol I've ever heard. Even more so than the TM Mk23). Maybe it's snobbish, but it puts me right off even considering buying it. The trigger pull was quite heavy too, if I recall correctly, which is an issue inherint in virtually all NBB designs.
Basically, if someone releases one of those in GBB form, I'd be a happy man.

Evade · 10-12-2010 2:30am

AGB_Ghost wrote: »

I'd love to see a m4 AK47 hybrid

How about the SR-47? Actually a real gun.

NakedDex · 10-12-2010 2:34am

AGB_Ghost wrote: »

I'd love to see a m4 AK47 hybrid, the AK4 Carbine or the M47A1 Carbine :P

Actually the AK4 is the Swedish version of the G3 manufactured by Husqvarna (the same company that make the chainsaws and lawnmowers...) and the M47 was an old Raytheon Dragon AT missile launcher.
If you want M4/AK crossovers, however, just google "Tactical AK" and you'll uncover all sorts of abominations like this:

Edit: I was just going to mention the SR-47. Ugly rifle, great concept.

Evade · 10-12-2010 2:38am

NakedDex wrote: »

Edit: I was just going to mention the SR-47. Ugly rifle, great concept.

I think it looks really nice. If the conversion kits didn't cost as much as they do I'd get one.

tonycombat · 12-12-2010 9:21pm

Luv to see an airsoft version of this:

http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/an-94-abakan-e.html

Stercus Accidit · 13-12-2010 1:52am

tonycombat wrote: »

Luv to see an airsoft version of this:

http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/an-94-abakan-e.html

And that would sell too.

The AEK which has replaced it would be interesting too.

NakedDex · 13-12-2010 1:58am

That reminds me. Remeber when you were asking about that old '70s AK that predated the OICW concept? Found it...

I knew the "name" wasn't a designation I'd seen before, I just couldn't remember why. Pure fluke I found it too, I was looking for something else on my other computer and stumbled across it in the image history.
It's called the "80.002". It's KE round is a 5.45mm and it's HE round is 12.7mm.

goblin59 · 13-12-2010 3:31pm

NakedDex wrote: »

That reminds me. Remeber when you were asking about that old '70s AK that predated the OICW concept? Found it...

I knew the "name" wasn't a designation I'd seen before, I just couldn't remember why. Pure fluke I found it too, I was looking for something else on my other computer and stumbled across it in the image history.
It's called the "80.002". It's KE round is a 5.45mm and it's HE round is 12.7mm.

could nearly do an airsoft verision but replace the 12.7mm with 8mm bb's instead,lol.

Stercus Accidit · 13-12-2010 3:33pm

That thing is weird.

Genghiz Cohen · 13-12-2010 5:42pm

goblin59 wrote: »

could nearly do an airsoft verision but replace the 12.7mm with 8mm bb's instead,lol.

/cough shotgun

goblin59 · 13-12-2010 6:42pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

/cough shotgun

great now i'v an image in my head of a ak74 with a shotgun gaffa-taped to the side of it.

damagegt · 14-12-2010 12:14am

AGB_Ghost wrote: »

I'd love to see a m4 AK47 hybrid, the AK4 Carbine or the M47A1 Carbine :P

Yeah 400 posts woo!

Landwarrior were selling this for awhile

http://www.popularairsoft.com/news/lwa-knights-armament-sr-47-details

MerryDespot · 19-12-2010 3:03am

NakedDex wrote: »

This is also usually the thread that pops up every year where I rant about nobody making a Bofors AK5, but G&G are solving that within the next few weeks. Thank smeg...

So much win Dex ... so much win.
In fact, I seem to recall that at least one Irish retailer had one up on their site a week or two ago - the proper green finished one too!

tonycombat · 13-08-2012 6:19pm

Would be great to see some of these make it in to airsoft

Walther MPL: there is a TM springer version but GBB please

SIG 540

Ruger Mini 14

FR2

HK 41

Galil Heavy

Lemming · 13-08-2012 7:06pm

tonycombat wrote: »

Galil Heavy

There is a Galil kit available; your bank balance may not like the price though when I mention the brand: Inokatsu. And it requires a donor TM (or compatible) AK47 too.

hightower1 · 13-08-2012 9:42pm

Kal tech ksg ...nom.

Dont think being able switch between feeding from two separate mags tubes at will would be much use in airsoft aside from maybe selecting mag tube one with multiple bb's per shell (for spread) and mag tube two with single bb's per shell (for distance).

Looks the biz imo though....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W638QRLqUyc

At this stage I'd settle for ANY full metal gbb shell ejecting shottie though

tonycombat · 13-08-2012 11:08pm

Lemming wrote: »

There is a Galil kit available; your bank balance may not like the price though when I mention the brand: Inokatsu. And it requires a donor TM (or compatible) AK47 too.

For the 5.56 version, but not the 7.62 as far as know
And you're right, it's crazy money. You could just buy the ICS 1 instead

CaptainCook · 14-08-2012 12:14am

Id love a Swedish K, probably be crazy money though!
Barring that saiga 12 shell ejecting shotgun using same mechanism as mauzen m1100.
Also would love a tec-9, love those things, watched too many bad actions movies as a child. Now were is my copy of MCBAIN.

tonycombat · 14-08-2012 9:43am

Did that Real Sword Type 88 ever come out?

20-08-2012 6:25pm

I'm sure I've mentioned this one already years ago.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxjnl1yuXk

tonycombat · 21-08-2012 5:45pm

AR 18

Sterling SMG

hightower1 · 07-09-2012 8:36pm

KAC chainsaw gun .....nom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvLK-4VGVks

sharpy2010 · 10-09-2012 7:18am

Id love the other rifle they used to use a lot in the a-team (tv show) you know the one that had a mainly wooden body but also had a silver/nickel finish think it was made by ruger but looked alot like an m14 ebr
And for the wow factor I'd love judge dredd pistol you know something like the robocop one that's already on the Market with 203 launcher attached

Private Snafu · 10-09-2012 9:22am

sharpy2010 wrote: »

Id love the other rifle they used to use a lot in the a-team (tv show) you know the one that had a mainly wooden body but also had a silver/nickel finish think it was made by ruger but looked alot like an m14 ebr
And for the wow factor I'd love judge dredd pistol you know something like the robocop one that's already on the Market with 203 launcher attached

You're right, it was a nickel plated Ruger Mini 14. AFAIK though no airsoft company manufactures it

Rapidraid · 03-10-2017 3:52pm

Hk G11 pdw version please

Unique Airsoft gun

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