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Paul Scholes(in prime) vs. Xavi

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  • #92
    Tiny Explosions
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Agree 100%.


    "Biggest dick A" vs "Biggest dick B"

    Which is the biggest?

    Vote (in private)

    Agreed.........what's the answer though?


    Ferguson or Ronaldo?:pac:

    Neville?:D


  • #93
    [Deleted User]
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    Tiny Explosions wrote: »
    Agreed.........what's the answer though?


    Ferguson or Ronaldo?:pac:

    Neville?:D

    This


  • #94
    ironingbored
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    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Iniesta is a complete scumbag, disgraceful to even mention him in the same breath as scholes/xavi.

    **** has the best record for cheats dived in 2 CL finals a EC final and WC final and won penos and frees in every game.

    Complete and utter scumbag of a player shocking to think his team won every game he dived in, Ronaldo isnt even close that cheating scumbag.

    You should visit Andres' Facebook page here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2067480&id=1133724813#!/AndresIniesta

    He has over 3 million fans and comes across as anything but a scumbag. I'm sure you can find someone slightly more intellectually equipped than yourself to translate his engaging and revealing posts, as, of course, they are in Espanol, that's Spanish to you.

    I think most managers, even Ferguson, if given a choice between Xavi and Scholes in their prime, would go Xavi. He has the ability to make everyone around him play well.


  • #95
    DOC09UNAM
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    Idiotic thread with idiotic results.


  • #96
    gosplan
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    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    Again, your seriously deluded if you think thats there's a huge gap between Xavi and Scholes....

    So what exactly is the point of the thread?

    'Oh well it's closer then you'd think?'


    Scholes vrs Xavi is a no contest.


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  • #97
    Dcully
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    Xavi no contest, further more Iniesta over scholes also.


  • #98
    Dcully
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Idiotic thread with idiotic results.

    idiotic results?

    The vastly better player got more votes, seems far from idiotic to me.


  • #99
    SantryRed
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Idiotic thread with idiotic results.

    how are the results idiotic?


  • #100
    [Deleted User]
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    idiotic results.

    Just because some people have a different viewpoint doesn't mean it's idiotic.


  • #101
    Nalz
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    Tiny Explosions wrote: »
    Agreed.........what's the answer though?


    Ferguson or Ronaldo?:pac:

    Neville?:D

    Oh look what you did there!


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  • #102
    DOC09UNAM
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    Dcully wrote: »
    idiotic results?

    The vastly better player got more votes, seems far from idiotic to me.

    Should have elaborated further, I also voted for Xavi as it is undeniable, he is definitely the best midfielder I have ever seen in my lifetime.

    I meant moreso some of the idiotic posts that have been made, not the actual poll result.


  • #103
    neil.p.b
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    I'd like to see Xavi do what he does in the premier league, he wouldn't get half as much time on the ball. Having said that i do think Xavi is better technically, better passer and better controller of a game, but having said that i'd have scholes, he does more for the team


  • #104
    krankykitty
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    It doesn't matter which one is better. It's been a privilege to watch both in action :)

    Plus it's hard to pick at this stage, both at different stages and surrounded by different types of player.


  • #105
    SlickRic
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    neil.p.b wrote: »
    I'd like to see Xavi do what he does in the premier league, he wouldn't get half as much time on the ball.

    he'd just get fouled a lot more.
    neil.p.b wrote: »
    Having said that i do think Xavi is better technically, better passer and better controller of a game, but having said that i'd have scholes, he does more for the team

    if the only thing Scholes is better at is shooting (which is the only thing i can think you have him ahead on if Xavi's better at all those things), then how does he do more for the team?

    do you just like gingers or something? ;)


  • #106
    gosplan
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Should have elaborated further, I also voted for Xavi as it is undeniable, he is definitely the best midfielder I have ever seen in my lifetime.

    I meant moreso some of the idiotic posts that have been made, not the actual poll result.

    Scholes getting 30% is pretty idiotic IMO.


  • #107
    neil.p.b
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    SlickRic wrote: »
    he'd just get fouled a lot more.

    True. But he would also have far less time than he does in la liga, if someone wasn't already marking him the second he got the ball someone would be running towards him, watch any la liga match, the opposition might slowly jog towards him. But again, i'm not putting him down, put him in the premier league and he'd be awesome, but i just don't think he'd be as good at doing what he does.
    SlickRic wrote: »
    if the only thing Scholes is better at is shooting (which is the only thing i can think you have him ahead on if Xavi's better at all those things), then how does he do more for the team?

    Shooting, heading, and obviously because of that better goal scorer as a whole, and it's not just the number of goals it's the goals he got over they years, how important they were. Better work rate, he was box to box in his prime, got so many more tackles in (good or bad!) than xavi.


    But let me rephrase my original statement and sit on the fence a bit here! If i was making a dream team with 2 CM's i'd have scholes. If it was with 3 CM's i'd have Xavi


  • #108
    Blatter
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    Will dig this thread up in a couple of years and see what people think then.
    It's amazing how alot of fans' opinons are influenced by the last 2 years and they seem to just conventially seem to forget about the years before that. Scholes has been consistently great for the last 10+ years. Xavi has been less so, don't forget it wasn't that long ago when the likes of Baraja, Albelda, Valeron and Mendieta were ahead of Xavi in the national pecking order.


  • #109
    DOC09UNAM
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    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    Will dig this thread up in a couple of years and see what people think then.
    It's amazing how alot of fans' opinons are influenced by the last 2 years and they seem to just conventially seem to forget about the years before that. Scholes has been consistently great for the last 10+ years. Xavi has been less so, don't forget it wasn't that long ago when the likes of Baraja, Albelda, Valeron and Mendieta were ahead of Xavi in the national pecking order.

    What point are you making?

    That xavi has improved greatly recently and that goes against him?


  • #110
    ziggy
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #111
    DOC09UNAM
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    ziggy wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    The international route is the stupidest route that comes up all the time in these threads, it is ridiculous.


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  • #112
    SantryRed
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    ziggy wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Regardless of what you say about Xavi he is clearly a Scholes fan boy and he won't take anything on board. Obvious since the first post. Ridiculous thread.


  • #113
    SantryRed
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    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    Will dig this thread up in a couple of years and see what people think then.
    It's amazing how alot of fans' opinons are influenced by the last 2 years and they seem to just conventially seem to forget about the years before that. Scholes has been consistently great for the last 10+ years. Xavi has been less so, don't forget it wasn't that long ago when the likes of Baraja, Albelda, Valeron and Mendieta were ahead of Xavi in the national pecking order.

    Well tbh you can only compare Xavi and Scholes in the last few years as it's only now that they're the same type of player.


  • #114
    Dolph Starbeam
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    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    Will dig this thread up in a couple of years and see what people think then.
    It's amazing how alot of fans' opinons are influenced by the last 2 years and they seem to just conventially seem to forget about the years before that. Scholes has been consistently great for the last 10+ years. Xavi has been less so, don't forget it wasn't that long ago when the likes of Baraja, Albelda, Valeron and Mendieta were ahead of Xavi in the national pecking order.

    Since he was about 22 he has a Spain regular and has played in or around 100 caps compared to the 60 odd Scholes has played. Scholes was brilliant and is one of the very few Man U or England players i actually really like but Xavi is pure class. I'm sure you're right and a lot of people on here have been influenced by the last 2 years and rightly so because the last 2 years he has been phenomenal, but he has been brilliant for a long time before that which anyone who followed La Liga will know.


  • #115
    eZe^
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    The fact that all you people and the British media are only recognising Xavi's genius now, that's a fault that lies with yourselves and not Xavi. Xavi has been consistently breathtaking for the best part of a decade.


  • #116
    Lukker-
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    This thread is a load of sh*te, Scholes in his prime was an attacking midfielder, only as he has gotten older and lost some of his fitness has he played deeper so the comparison is complete load of ****e.


  • #117
    DOC09UNAM
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    Lukker- wrote: »
    This thread is a load of sh*te, Scholes in his prime was an attacking midfielder, only as he has gotten older and lost some of his fitness has he played deeper so the comparison is complete load of ****e.

    Perfectly unbiased view of this thread.


  • #118
    Warper
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    Zidane was the best midfielder up to when he retired, since then Xavi has been the best. Xavi will go down as one of the greats of World Football. Scholes will go down as one of the greats of Man Utd. - BIG difference.


  • #119
    Davaeo09
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    Xavi, a class apart.


  • #120
    Blatter
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    What point are you making?

    That xavi has improved greatly recently and that goes against him?

    If this thread had been held two years ago, the results would be completely different, IMO.

    Just making the point that all to often players are judged over the short term, and people forget about the past, or the past becomes somewhat irrelevant.


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  • #121
    eZe^
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    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    If this thread had been held two years ago, the results would be completely different, IMO.

    Just making the point that all to often players are judged over the short term, and people forget about the past, or the past becomes somewhat irrelevant.

    And again, I'll say that the results being different would be because of ignorance in the voters, not because Xavi has only magically become world class in the past 2 years. He has been one of the best midfielders in the game for the past decade ffs. Just because you and sky didn't acknowledge it doesn't make it untrue.


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