NWO and all that stuff

Sticky_Fingers · 03-12-2010 10:28PM

All this NWO hidden conspiracy stuff is a load of nonsense, the bankers already control the world, they have all the money and either bribe or cajole the worlds governments into doing their bidding. The whole system is corrupt and the motivations of the "conspirators" isn't to take total control and stick us all into FEMA camps but simply to have us carry on making them money and allowing them to keep place at the top of the pecking order.

The sad thing about it is that this state of affairs is so banal and uninteresting it is widely accepted as normal so wild theories spring up to justify their actions by creating super secret organisations and groups who sit around talking about world domination while twiddling their waxed mustaches in their fortresses of doom. These guys are no Dr Evils, they are a bunch of greedy accountants and moneymen who want to keep living the good life.

RockinRolla · 03-12-2010 10:39PM

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

I don't have a TV, I buy things when the things I have break. My money is in a bank account. I buy food, pay rent and save my money. My phone is a few years old, I haven't bought clothes in years, my PC is 3+ years old, almost 3.5 years.

I have not seen a 3D TV before very recently... When were they invented?

Listen, I'm not attacking you (sorry if it came across that way).

But as Sticky Fingers stated above me, the NWO could be anything. If the bankers control the world, which they do, then they are the hidden world rulers.

The very society you live in, strive to contribute to, desire to be equal in - is false. It's unnatural for our infintile species to live in such a system but this system was created for us to be controlled. Humans are only a couple of hundred thousand years old (and thats not even in our present form) to have evolved enough so that we lose our primitive animal instincts. But physcology is a wonderful tool. There are people that know more about you than you know yourself - they know what you like, what you will buy, what you will accept and they tell you what to believe in.

God is another mind-bending control technique that has become a very successful tool to these select individuals. You think you have a vote...you don't, it's an illusion to make you feel you have a choice. Obama is a puppet put in place by the powers that be because the world would only accept something they understood would be different after the whole George Bush PR disaster and what better way than the first ever African America President.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 03-12-2010 10:46PM

RockinRolla wrote: »

Listen, I'm not attacking you (sorry if it came across that way).

But as Sticky Fingers stated above me, the NWO could be anything. If the bankers control the world, which they do, then they are the hidden world rulers.

The very society you live in, strive to contribute to, desire to be equal in - is false. It's unnatural for our infintile species to live in such a system but this system was created for us to be controlled. Humans are only a couple of hundred thousand years old (and thats not even in our present form) to have evolved enough so that we lose our primitive animal instincts. But physcology is a wonderful tool. There are people that know more about you than you know yourself - they know what you like, what you will buy, what you will accept and they tell you what to believe in.

God is another mind-bending control technique that has become a very successful tool to these select individuals. You think you have a vote...you don't, it's an illusion to make you feel you have a choice. Obama is a puppet put in place by the powers that be because the world would only accept something they understood would be different after the whole George Bush PR disaster and what better way than the first ever African America President.

Oh sorry I didn't mean to insinuate that you were attacking me. Not at all.

I know all about society and the evil workings :P Psychology is cool. Really interesting.

Some of this CT stuff is seriously crazy.

scopper · 03-12-2010 10:51PM

Alex Jones (the speaker in the first video) is perhaps the most well known truther (or 9-11 denier) in the States so tread carefully before entering that weird world.

Fact is most conspiracy nuts desire a narrative to explain all the contingent nastiness that flows across our planet. There is none...just plain nastiness and human nature manifesting in complex group forms. 'Some animals are more equal than others...etc.'

RockinRolla · 03-12-2010 10:54PM

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

Oh sorry I didn't mean to insinuate that you were attacking me. Not at all.

I know all about society and the evil workings :P Psychology is cool. Really interesting.

Some of this CT stuff is seriously crazy.

You try tell that to others and they'll think you're crazy- literally unstable - such is the stigma of the free-thinker.

Never surrender your mind, brother.

Peace.

scopper · 03-12-2010 11:02PM

RockinRolla wrote: »

You try tell that to others and they'll think you're crazy- literally unstable - such is the stigma of the free-thinker.

I would contest that. Consipracy nuts often depend on second hand information in a manner that mirrors many naive stances on the sciences and so on. Often the desire for the narratives (or grand solution to all our ills) belies a weak mind. Plus if you keep failing to convince people with your arguments at some point you need to self-reflect and see whether the error is your own. Unless you are genius it likely is. That is the sad but blunt truth. Truth is not simple from either direction. Historically most free thinkers were either stoic or pragmatic in their aims.

RockinRolla · 03-12-2010 11:07PM

scopper wrote: »

I would contest that. Consipracy nuts often depend on second hand information in a manner that mirrors many naive stances on the sciences and so on. Often the desire for the narratives (or grand solution to all our ills) belies a weak mind. Plus if you keep failing to convince people with your arguments at some point you need to self-reflect and see whether the error is your own. Unless you are genius it likely is. That is the sad but blunt truth. Truth is not simple from either direction. Historically most free thinkers were either stoic or pragmatic in their aims.

Well, I wouldn't know from personal experience but great philosophers were at one time or another labelled crazy.

Same with George Carlin...many considered him a loony but what he portrayed or in the manner of which he 'gave you the information' which is the hardest thing to process, then it is not that of a weak mind but of a great free-thinker.

D-Generate · 03-12-2010 11:21PM

According to the video we entered the EU only a few months ago.... this guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

scopper · 03-12-2010 11:41PM

RockinRolla wrote: »

Well, I wouldn't know from personal experience but great philosophers were at one time or another labelled crazy.

Same with George Carlin...many considered him a loony but what he portrayed or in the manner of which he 'gave you the information' which is the hardest thing to process, then it is not that of a weak mind but of a great free-thinker.

What philosophers were considered crazy? Socrates was tried for corruption of young minds but people recognized his sanity (or he could not have been tried in a Greek court). There are few cases of harassed philosophers throughout the tradition outside those persecuted by the Church. Even Spinoza was banished purely on Jewish theological grounds. Most great philosophers, including free thinkers such as Nietzsche and Deleuze, held academic posts. In Nietzsche's case he left freely.

Many crazy people were considered crazy. Not many philosophers - more as challenges to certain power structures (in rare cases mind you).

As for Carlin...not many ostracized loonies have yearly HBO shows and appearances on major networks since the 70's on a regular basis. I know many consider him on the edge qua capitalism ('our owners') but not crazy unless you mean the wacko right in which case they think everyone is a loony

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 04-12-2010 12:11AM

D-Generate wrote: »

According to the video we entered the EU only a few months ago.... this guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

I gave him the benifit of the doubt and I guess he was talking about the lisbon treaty.

Diabhal Beag · 04-12-2010 12:35AM

I think that all this conspiracy theory stuff is a big massive joke on us all. The "believers" are LOLing at us behind our backs.

scientific1982 · 04-12-2010 12:41AM

Conspiracy theories are taking the place of organised religion. People want to be part of something bigger than themselves. People like Alex Jones are cynical individuals who take advantage of this.

Kersh · 04-12-2010 12:41AM

Theme song .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB-H7uxYGYc

Terry · 04-12-2010 12:52AM

Watched it.
Dude is nuts and uninformed.

Apparently Ireland joined the EU a few months ago.
I hate to generalise, but he's just another uninformend American.

Mahatma coat · 04-12-2010 12:56AM

Conspiracy theorists are Just Ahead of the Curve Observationaly, They see something, Know its a Corruption/Conspiracy, try to speak out and are derided as Loonies or Nutters, then in a Couple of years the conspiracy becomes Common knowledge, but its generally too late atr that stage, the damage has been done.

for anyone who doubts that Cabals are Secretly conspiring against the Population Read

Confessions of an Economic Hitman

or

Blowing up Russia

two books tht lay out the truth, but people still deride them as fantasy, mainly because people dnt want to step outside their comfort zones, most peoplke would rtather believe a lie that makes them comfortable

mrsdewinter · 04-12-2010 12:59AM

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

I gave him the benifit of the doubt and I guess he was talking about the lisbon treaty.

Me too... up to a point. He kept saying that the Central Bank of Ireland is privately owned ... ???
Also, while I enjoy the force of his argument, and can go along with the theory that in allowing ourselves to be saved from financial catastrophe, we are doing no more than signing up for paying an even bigger price, albeit over a longer timeframe, I just can't buy his endgame scenario: that this shadowy circle wants nothing more than to establish a vast underclass (that's most of us) living in penury and virtual serfdom.
I just feel that the only sectors of global society with the resources to do this are corporations, whose best interests would best be served - you would think - be in growing this bubble, not withdrawing cash from circulation through austerity measures.
Am I failing to see the big picture? Wouldn't be the first time...

04-12-2010 01:28AM

All the banks are privately owned, even the "Federal Reserve & Bank of England" are privately owned, their primary loyalty is to their shareowners & bondholders.

No conspiracy, just big business doing capitalism as it knows best!

squod · 04-12-2010 01:41AM

mrsdewinter wrote: »

Me too... up to a point. He kept saying that the Central Bank of Ireland is privately owned ... ???
Also, while I enjoy the force of his argument, and can go along with the theory that in allowing ourselves to be saved from financial catastrophe, we are doing no more than signing up for paying an even bigger price, albeit over a longer timeframe, I just can't buy his endgame scenario: that this shadowy circle wants nothing more than to establish a vast underclass (that's most of us) living in penury and virtual serfdom.
I just feel that the only sectors of global society with the resources to do this are corporations, whose best interests would best be served - you would think - be in growing this bubble, not withdrawing cash from circulation through austerity measures.
Am I failing to see the big picture? Wouldn't be the first time...

Max today explains it very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70V1BfBI51U

Penn · 04-12-2010 01:47AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Icke does. I have a friend just back from a lectue he gave in Amsterdam. Cut the alien lizard stuff out and he makes a lof of sense.

Yeah, because the fact he believes pretty much all the world's leaders throughout history and a lot of celebrities are actually inbreeding lizards probably isn't important. Once you ignore all that, there's no reason we shouldn't take heed of what he says.

NWO and all that stuff

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