NWO and all that stuff

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I just watched the following video. It's mental to me. Is it all a conspiracy, is it sabrerattling? I have no idea. Any ideas or suggestions?

No idea who this guy is either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmiFB9hJxus

Biggins

The best nuts in the world make their madness sound sane!
Jim Corr and David Icke could give lessons!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Icke does. I have a friend just back from a lectue he gave in Amsterdam. Cut the alien lizard stuff out and he makes a lof of sense.

Daemos

That guy is a classic example of an inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain

Galway K9

Well its basically like this....a worldwide recesssion was orchestrated so we had to ask money of the "IMF" who now control us.

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

The best nuts in the world make their madness sound sane!
Jim Corr and David Icke could give lessons!

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Icke does. I have a friend just back from a lectue he gave in Amsterdam. Cut the alien lizard stuff out and he makes a lof of sense.

There... see... I told ya! :pac:

Celly Smunt

lets just put it this way,that man alex jones wouldn't be half as rich if it wasn't for the gullible

biko

There's a whole forum dedicated to this stuff
"What really goes on"

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Galway K9 wrote: »

Well its basically like this....a worldwide recesssion was orchestrated so we had to ask money of the "IMF" who now control us.

I understand what he is trying to say, but do they really control us? Is it all really a big plan to take over the world?

For the most part, I am thinking he is over thinking it and it's all a load of balls, but there is a small part of me saying "what if he's speaking the truth..."

What's the worst that can happen exactly? A parasite still needs the organism it invades to survive in order for it to live and prosper...

He's just explaining how the banking system works, but blowing up the conspiracy theory that the banksters actually rule the world. They don't, they just control the money!

Well they used to, until their greed got the better of then, now they just expect us to make good their gambling debts.

Celly Smunt

Deleted User wrote: »

He's just explaining how the banking system works, but blowing up the conspiracy theory that the banksters actually rule the world. They don't, they just control the money!

Well they used to, until their greed got the better of then, now they just expect us to make good their gambling debts.

so they still control the money..

mikemac

David Icke, isn't he the guy who says we are ruled by lizards?

Galway K9

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

I understand what he is trying to say, but do they really control us? Is it all really a big plan to take over the world?

For the most part, I am thinking he is over thinking it and it's all a load of balls, but there is a small part of me saying "what if he's speaking the truth..."

What's the worst that can happen exactly? A parasite still needs the organism it invades to survive in order for it to live and prosper...

Well its the basic prinicipal of life.....Money equals power!


so what better way to do it but make everyone broke so they rely on the rich to survive thus making them powerful...The new world order. I told ya the lisbon treaty was dangerous....but ye didnt listen. Im holding everyone that voted FF accountable anyways just so ive someone to blame.:)

Sea Sharp

He's a head-case that takes facts and opinions out of context and extrapolates them to imply that 'they're out to get us.'
His books and films target the paranoid, borderline schizophrenic market niche.

RockinRolla

While I don't believe in the illuminati as such, there are definitely powers at work that control us through mind-manipulation rather than physical force these days.

Take, for example, the word ''consumerism''. It's not, perhaps, an evil word directly, but what it means is 'phycological brainwash'. Consumerism was first brought about by a man named Edward Bernays (who worked for the CIA) who happened to be physco-analysis and genius, Freud's, nephew.

After World War 2, they needed a new propaganda machine to comtrol peoples' thoughts and their desires. It still exists today because you're still buying crap you don't actually need.

In turn, this zombie inducing coma runs entire economies. Just look at the United States! So basically, you're working like a dog all week to fit or be a part of this system designed specifically for you to be a good little law-abiding citizen.

And the best part about it is, you don't even realise it!

Sh1t! I've said too much.....THEY'RE COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Biggins

feelingstressed wrote: »

David Icke, isn't he the guy who says we are ruled by lizards?

Yep, thats the one - and wrote books about it too.
Went on a Wogan TV show and announced that he was the son of God at one stage, with a message for us all. :pac:

biko

This is a similar guy but funny.
Robert Newman explains the history of oil

BrockSamson

Some interesting reading


http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/ahern-accuses-ecb-of-bailout-plan-leaks-483856.html




http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sf-may-take-govt-to-court-over-bailout-deal-483858.html


The EU will now get what they have been complaining about for years a higher corporation tax and lower minimium wage for Ireland

pmcmahon

pmcmahon wrote: »

so they still control the money..

Sort of, all the deals used result in profit for them, now many are turning to shít, so they won't print any more until we borrow from them to pay their debts.

Great job if you can get it!

anyway ibtl.

Terry

Didn't watch the video.
Let me guess.
The Jews control the world, and they all want to follow our every move by implanting chips in out bodies (neglecting to take into account that I have a skin allergy, and prolonged contact with metal objects makes me break out in a rash, and I'm sure I'm not the only one).
The Americans are in on this, as are the Bilderberg group.
Dan Brown is a member and writes his novels to make it seem like fiction.
They all want a one world government and currency, and the Euro/EU is a precursor to that.

Am I close?

Galway K9

Terry wrote: »

Didn't watch the video.
Let me guess.
The Jews control the world, and they all want to follow our every move by implanting chips in out bodies (neglecting to take into account that I have a skin allergy, and prolonged contact with metal objects makes me break out in a rash, and I'm sure I'm not the only one).
The Americans are in on this, as are the Bilderberg group.
Dan Brown is a member and writes his novels to make it seem like fiction.
They all want a one world government and currency, and the Euro/EU is a precursor to that.

Am I close?

ya:D

**sarcasm is a supressed form of unresolved aggression***

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

RockinRolla wrote: »

While I don't believe in the illuminati as such, there are definitely powers at work that control us through mind-manipulation rather than physical force these days.

Take, for example, the word ''consumerism''. It's not, perhaps, an evil word directly, but what it means is 'phycological brainwash'. Consumerism was first brought about by a man named Edward Bernays (who worked for the CIA) who happened to be physco-analysis and genius, Freud's, nephew.

After World War 2, they needed a new propaganda machine to comtrol peoples' thoughts and their desires. It still exists today because you're still buying crap you don't actually need.

In turn, this zombie inducing coma runs entire economies. Just look at the United States! So basically, you're working like a dog all week to fit or be a part of this system designed specifically for you to be a good little law-abiding citizen.

And the best part about it is, you don't even realise it!

Sh1t! I've said too much.....THEY'RE COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I buy what I want :P Not essentially what I need, but what exactly would you do with the extra cash if you have bought all you need?

A friend of mine just said the following, I think it's a perfect explanation;

"the fact that the world can be cruel and random terrifies the **** out of some people so they create stories that their is some maleviolent force behind all the bad things that happen to give themselves consolation"

- The man

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Terry wrote: »

Didn't watch the video.
Let me guess.
The Jews control the world, and they all want to follow our every move by implanting chips in out bodies (neglecting to take into account that I have a skin allergy, and prolonged contact with metal objects makes me break out in a rash, and I'm sure I'm not the only one).
The Americans are in on this, as are the Bilderberg group.
Dan Brown is a member and writes his novels to make it seem like fiction.
They all want a one world government and currency, and the Euro/EU is a precursor to that.

Am I close?

What is the Bilderberg group? Heard of them before.

Galway K9

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

What is the Bilderberg group? Heard of them before.

http://www.google.ie/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=707&q=bilderberg+group&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=ff8be12b9b06f6de

RockinRolla

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

I buy what I want :P Not essentially what I need, but what exactly would you do with the extra cash if you have bought all you need?

A friend of mine just said the following, I think it's a perfect explanation;

"the fact that the world can be cruel and random terrifies the **** out of some people so they create stories that their is some maleviolent force behind all the bad things that happen to give themselves consolation"

- The man

Exactly.

You buy what you want - not what you need. Marketing\Advertising is an art-form. It appeals to your inner desires and lets face it, we don't need that new mobile that you can watch the TV on (sure, I already have a TV and a phone so why buy another phone) - BUT I MUUUUUUUUSST HAVE IT NOW!

Funny really, when the products you're buying are not new. They were developed about ten years ago and they're constantly making crappier version and releasing them so you'll buy both. You think 3D TV is a recent invention...pfft - think again.

Without consumerism, we'd only buy things when the old one dies/wears out!

Terry

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

What is the Bilderberg group? Heard of them before.

Galway K9, the Western dog that he is, did link to a google search, but I'll just give you a brief explanation.

They're a secret society, the same as every other secret society that exists, but don't really have any power and do not control the world. Just a bunch of old men spanking new recruits and then having a circle jerk whilst drinking over-priced brandy.

My name is URL

The NWO thing is a load of balls.. well, apart from the fact that it already exists that is. If you filter out all the crap about shadowy groups etc, and look at where we are at this point in time then it makes sense. It's just capitalism running its course.. The people that espouse all the stuff about an overall plan by groups to obtain control of everything just see that as the best way to protest against where we are naturally heading. It's a lot easier than forming opinions about every single little thing that leads us there.

The Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission and so on all have their own separate agendas. Not necessarily nefarious ones either, and most likely not. They all want to improve how capitalism and global cooperation works. The thing is that capitalism fails a lot of people, and those people want to express their disdain and do so by assuming that the entire model is an overall plan which sets out to cause people to fail.

I wouldn't be overly flippant of the idea either tbh. It's far too easy to chalk everything down to lunatic fringes speaking out and ignore the facts by doing so. Just keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out

btw, the likes of Alex Jones are profiteering massively with the stuff they speak about so they're not exactly free from the capitalist machine which they claim imprisons them

RockinRolla

Deleted User wrote: »

Without consumerism, we'd only buy things when the old one dies/wears out!

Precisly!

That's why they changed it all. Products that were being advertised as "long lasting and durable" in the 1920's are now advertised by a beautiful model that makes you feel that you are unequal of sorts until you have it!

You strive until you get the money, no matter the price - it could be a sportscar for all they care - you buy it and suddenly, you're happier and everyone's happy - the world seems a great place but is there a point to the story....no.

Thats it.

You spend your whole life buying sh1t you don't need and then you die. It's mind-control.

RockinRolla

My name is URL wrote: »

Just keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out

I liked the Richard Dawkins quote there.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

RockinRolla wrote: »

Exactly.

You buy what you want - not what you need. Marketing\Advertising is an art-form. It appeals to your inner desires and lets face it, we don't need that new mobile that you can watch the TV on (sure, I already have a TV and a phone so why buy another phone) - BUT I MUUUUUUUUSST HAVE IT NOW!

Funny really, when the products you're buying are not new. They were developed about ten years ago and they're constantly making crappier version and releasing them so you'll buy both. You think 3D TV is a recent invention...pfft - think again.

I don't have a TV, I buy things when the things I have break. My money is in a bank account. I buy food, pay rent and save my money. My phone is a few years old, I haven't bought clothes in years, my PC is 3+ years old, almost 3.5 years.

I have not seen a 3D TV before very recently... When were they invented?

Sticky_Fingers

All this NWO hidden conspiracy stuff is a load of nonsense, the bankers already control the world, they have all the money and either bribe or cajole the worlds governments into doing their bidding. The whole system is corrupt and the motivations of the "conspirators" isn't to take total control and stick us all into FEMA camps but simply to have us carry on making them money and allowing them to keep place at the top of the pecking order.

The sad thing about it is that this state of affairs is so banal and uninteresting it is widely accepted as normal so wild theories spring up to justify their actions by creating super secret organisations and groups who sit around talking about world domination while twiddling their waxed mustaches in their fortresses of doom. These guys are no Dr Evils, they are a bunch of greedy accountants and moneymen who want to keep living the good life.

RockinRolla

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

I don't have a TV, I buy things when the things I have break. My money is in a bank account. I buy food, pay rent and save my money. My phone is a few years old, I haven't bought clothes in years, my PC is 3+ years old, almost 3.5 years.

I have not seen a 3D TV before very recently... When were they invented?

Listen, I'm not attacking you (sorry if it came across that way).

But as Sticky Fingers stated above me, the NWO could be anything. If the bankers control the world, which they do, then they are the hidden world rulers.

The very society you live in, strive to contribute to, desire to be equal in - is false. It's unnatural for our infintile species to live in such a system but this system was created for us to be controlled. Humans are only a couple of hundred thousand years old (and thats not even in our present form) to have evolved enough so that we lose our primitive animal instincts. But physcology is a wonderful tool. There are people that know more about you than you know yourself - they know what you like, what you will buy, what you will accept and they tell you what to believe in.

God is another mind-bending control technique that has become a very successful tool to these select individuals. You think you have a vote...you don't, it's an illusion to make you feel you have a choice. Obama is a puppet put in place by the powers that be because the world would only accept something they understood would be different after the whole George Bush PR disaster and what better way than the first ever African America President.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

RockinRolla wrote: »

Listen, I'm not attacking you (sorry if it came across that way).

But as Sticky Fingers stated above me, the NWO could be anything. If the bankers control the world, which they do, then they are the hidden world rulers.

The very society you live in, strive to contribute to, desire to be equal in - is false. It's unnatural for our infintile species to live in such a system but this system was created for us to be controlled. Humans are only a couple of hundred thousand years old (and thats not even in our present form) to have evolved enough so that we lose our primitive animal instincts. But physcology is a wonderful tool. There are people that know more about you than you know yourself - they know what you like, what you will buy, what you will accept and they tell you what to believe in.

God is another mind-bending control technique that has become a very successful tool to these select individuals. You think you have a vote...you don't, it's an illusion to make you feel you have a choice. Obama is a puppet put in place by the powers that be because the world would only accept something they understood would be different after the whole George Bush PR disaster and what better way than the first ever African America President.

Oh sorry I didn't mean to insinuate that you were attacking me. Not at all.

I know all about society and the evil workings :P Psychology is cool. Really interesting.

Some of this CT stuff is seriously crazy.

scopper

Alex Jones (the speaker in the first video) is perhaps the most well known truther (or 9-11 denier) in the States so tread carefully before entering that weird world.

Fact is most conspiracy nuts desire a narrative to explain all the contingent nastiness that flows across our planet. There is none...just plain nastiness and human nature manifesting in complex group forms. 'Some animals are more equal than others...etc.'

RockinRolla

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

Oh sorry I didn't mean to insinuate that you were attacking me. Not at all.

I know all about society and the evil workings :P Psychology is cool. Really interesting.

Some of this CT stuff is seriously crazy.

You try tell that to others and they'll think you're crazy- literally unstable - such is the stigma of the free-thinker.

Never surrender your mind, brother.

Peace.

scopper

RockinRolla wrote: »

You try tell that to others and they'll think you're crazy- literally unstable - such is the stigma of the free-thinker.

I would contest that. Consipracy nuts often depend on second hand information in a manner that mirrors many naive stances on the sciences and so on. Often the desire for the narratives (or grand solution to all our ills) belies a weak mind. Plus if you keep failing to convince people with your arguments at some point you need to self-reflect and see whether the error is your own. Unless you are genius it likely is. That is the sad but blunt truth. Truth is not simple from either direction. Historically most free thinkers were either stoic or pragmatic in their aims.

RockinRolla

scopper wrote: »

I would contest that. Consipracy nuts often depend on second hand information in a manner that mirrors many naive stances on the sciences and so on. Often the desire for the narratives (or grand solution to all our ills) belies a weak mind. Plus if you keep failing to convince people with your arguments at some point you need to self-reflect and see whether the error is your own. Unless you are genius it likely is. That is the sad but blunt truth. Truth is not simple from either direction. Historically most free thinkers were either stoic or pragmatic in their aims.

Well, I wouldn't know from personal experience but great philosophers were at one time or another labelled crazy.

Same with George Carlin...many considered him a loony but what he portrayed or in the manner of which he 'gave you the information' which is the hardest thing to process, then it is not that of a weak mind but of a great free-thinker.

D-Generate

According to the video we entered the EU only a few months ago.... this guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

scopper

RockinRolla wrote: »

Well, I wouldn't know from personal experience but great philosophers were at one time or another labelled crazy.

Same with George Carlin...many considered him a loony but what he portrayed or in the manner of which he 'gave you the information' which is the hardest thing to process, then it is not that of a weak mind but of a great free-thinker.

What philosophers were considered crazy? Socrates was tried for corruption of young minds but people recognized his sanity (or he could not have been tried in a Greek court). There are few cases of harassed philosophers throughout the tradition outside those persecuted by the Church. Even Spinoza was banished purely on Jewish theological grounds. Most great philosophers, including free thinkers such as Nietzsche and Deleuze, held academic posts. In Nietzsche's case he left freely.

Many crazy people were considered crazy. Not many philosophers - more as challenges to certain power structures (in rare cases mind you).

As for Carlin...not many ostracized loonies have yearly HBO shows and appearances on major networks since the 70's on a regular basis. I know many consider him on the edge qua capitalism ('our owners') but not crazy unless you mean the wacko right in which case they think everyone is a loony

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

D-Generate wrote: »

According to the video we entered the EU only a few months ago.... this guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

I gave him the benifit of the doubt and I guess he was talking about the lisbon treaty.

Diabhal Beag

I think that all this conspiracy theory stuff is a big massive joke on us all. The "believers" are LOLing at us behind our backs.

scientific1982

Conspiracy theories are taking the place of organised religion. People want to be part of something bigger than themselves. People like Alex Jones are cynical individuals who take advantage of this.

Kersh

Theme song .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB-H7uxYGYc

Terry

Watched it.
Dude is nuts and uninformed.

Apparently Ireland joined the EU a few months ago.
I hate to generalise, but he's just another uninformend American.

Mahatma coat

Conspiracy theorists are Just Ahead of the Curve Observationaly, They see something, Know its a Corruption/Conspiracy, try to speak out and are derided as Loonies or Nutters, then in a Couple of years the conspiracy becomes Common knowledge, but its generally too late atr that stage, the damage has been done.


for anyone who doubts that Cabals are Secretly conspiring against the Population Read

Confessions of an Economic Hitman

or

Blowing up Russia

two books tht lay out the truth, but people still deride them as fantasy, mainly because people dnt want to step outside their comfort zones, most peoplke would rtather believe a lie that makes them comfortable

mrsdewinter

Lola Repulsive Rifleman wrote: »

I gave him the benifit of the doubt and I guess he was talking about the lisbon treaty.

Me too... up to a point. He kept saying that the Central Bank of Ireland is privately owned ... ???
Also, while I enjoy the force of his argument, and can go along with the theory that in allowing ourselves to be saved from financial catastrophe, we are doing no more than signing up for paying an even bigger price, albeit over a longer timeframe, I just can't buy his endgame scenario: that this shadowy circle wants nothing more than to establish a vast underclass (that's most of us) living in penury and virtual serfdom.
I just feel that the only sectors of global society with the resources to do this are corporations, whose best interests would best be served - you would think - be in growing this bubble, not withdrawing cash from circulation through austerity measures.
Am I failing to see the big picture? Wouldn't be the first time...

All the banks are privately owned, even the "Federal Reserve & Bank of England" are privately owned, their primary loyalty is to their shareowners & bondholders.

No conspiracy, just big business doing capitalism as it knows best!

squod

mrsdewinter wrote: »

Me too... up to a point. He kept saying that the Central Bank of Ireland is privately owned ... ???
Also, while I enjoy the force of his argument, and can go along with the theory that in allowing ourselves to be saved from financial catastrophe, we are doing no more than signing up for paying an even bigger price, albeit over a longer timeframe, I just can't buy his endgame scenario: that this shadowy circle wants nothing more than to establish a vast underclass (that's most of us) living in penury and virtual serfdom.
I just feel that the only sectors of global society with the resources to do this are corporations, whose best interests would best be served - you would think - be in growing this bubble, not withdrawing cash from circulation through austerity measures.
Am I failing to see the big picture? Wouldn't be the first time...

Max today explains it very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70V1BfBI51U

Penn

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Icke does. I have a friend just back from a lectue he gave in Amsterdam. Cut the alien lizard stuff out and he makes a lof of sense.

Yeah, because the fact he believes pretty much all the world's leaders throughout history and a lot of celebrities are actually inbreeding lizards probably isn't important. Once you ignore all that, there's no reason we shouldn't take heed of what he says.