RTE fail us yet again.

CatFromHue · 27-11-2010 04:38PM

would any of the people giving out about the march not being televised actually watch it if it was?

watching it to see if your mate who is towards theback in the greenhat gets on the tele is not what i meant either.

steddyeddy · 27-11-2010 04:42PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Exactly.

And it's funny how often people in this forum make fun of Sky News for sensationalising events... but apparently it's ok as long as they're sensationalising something you support.

Anne dolye described brian cowens performance as strong and your accusing sky of sensationalising.

MagicSean · 27-11-2010 04:49PM

I'd be more pissed off if they interrupted my regular programming for something which could be reported on the evening news. If there had been a bomb set off or running battles with Gardaí it would be different. As it is the story is the lead on the website which is where I get my news anyway.

baltimore sun · 27-11-2010 04:49PM

they didn't have Dustin on the Late Late either, ffs :mad:

steddyeddy · 27-11-2010 04:51PM

Just saw this on the sky news website

People are very unhappy, and this is their last chance to protest before the budget.

Demonstrator Pat Kenny

Einhard · 27-11-2010 05:04PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Anne dolye described brian cowens performance as strong and your accusing sky of sensationalising.

Cowen was strong in that particalar announcement. I expect RTE to report the facts as they are, and not to pander to the opinion of the masses. And they report the facts for the most part. Just because they reported that he delivered a strong performance, does not mean they're endorsing him, or engaging in propoganda.

Biggins · 27-11-2010 05:04PM

I'll be honest, I can see both sides.

RTE is not a 24 hour news service but the protests today and people speaking all day about our national recovery and possible alternative plans, deserve to be heard like never before.

What we will get is at most a collection 5/10 minutes of 10 second sound-bites.
Mind you this just don't apply to RTE but this is the one national station that most of us are paying our licence fees for.

By three or four in the afternoon, I'm sure there must be a number of important speeches they could have broadcast in full in a special hour or even half hour programme.
...But no, nothing except probably a brief bit at six and nine basically ...and thats it.

A national day of protest when people are coming from every corner of our country, about something that will effect generations, where we are about to sign up to a deal of rip-off percentage proportions too (See here) and something that will hit us all in the wallet till the day we die - and RTE will give us just sound-bites!

I hate RTE with a passion!

flynnlives · 27-11-2010 05:09PM

Yesterday Pearce Doherty won the by-election, first story was rightly about him. Second story was about how badly FG and LAB did FFS!!!

Barely mentioned the fact that the gov. vote dropped by 60%!!!

That imo is pure bias!!

I fully expect to hear an increased anount of FG and LAB bashing ahead of the election from our "media"

Minstrel27 · 27-11-2010 05:13PM

Poly wrote: »

Once again RTE fail the license fee payer, today’s march is the lead story on SKY and BBC. They have reporters covering the story live from the GPO.

RTE doing fcuk all as usual.

So how much live coverage did TV3 and TG4 give to the march?

MagicSean · 27-11-2010 05:14PM

Can we also remember that as our national broadcaster they are very restricted in regards to political broadcasts.

super_furry · 27-11-2010 05:15PM

The simple fact is that the march isn't big enough or significant enough to warrant exceptional coverage.

Even on the RTÉ website http://www.rte.ie/news/ (which have it as their top story) people are more interested in the weather with the 'Snow and ice cause travel disruption' top of their Most Popular section down the bottom right.

Einhard · 27-11-2010 05:17PM

Biggins wrote: »

I'll be honest, I can see both sides.

RTE is not a 24 hour news service but the protests today and people speaking all day about our national recovery and possible alternative plans, deserve to be heard like never before.

What we will get is at most a collection 5/10 minutes of 10 second sound-bites.
Mind you this just don't apply to RTE but this is the one national station that most of us are baying our licence fees for.

By three or four in the afternoon, I'm sure there must be a number of important speeches they could have broadcast in full in a special hour or even half hour programme.
...But no, nothing except probably a brief bit at six and nine basically ...and thats it.

A national day of protest when people are coming from every corner of our country, about something that will effect generations, where we are about to sign up to a deal of rip-off percentage proportions too (See here) and something that will hit us all in the wallet till the day we die - and RTE will give us just sound-bites!

I hate RTE with a passion!

Well first off, it's not a national day of protest, despite what the unions might claim. From the figures I've seen, approx 50k turned up in Dublin to march. That might seem a large number, but in reality it is quite small relative to the general population. Furthermore, the only protest of any significance was in Dublin, so I really don't see how it can be described as a national day of anything.

Secondly, it's really not a huge story, and certainly not one that merits interrupting regular services. We know what's happening. People go on march, people make speeches, people angry. Why exactly does that need special coverage? It will be reported in full on the news later on. I don't see any reason for it to be broadcast live.

Incidentally, the students staged a mass protest in Westminster the other day. BBC and Sky News covered it as one would expect. But none of the regular channels broke from their normal schedules. People who bang on about RTE being a FF shill should bear that kind of thing in mind.

ejmaztec · 27-11-2010 05:19PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Just saw this on the sky news website

People are very unhappy, and this is their last chance to protest be ignored in large numbers before the budget.
Demonstrator Pat Kenny

fyp:(

steddyeddy · 27-11-2010 05:21PM

Einhard wrote: »

Cowen was strong in that particalar announcement. I expect RTE to report the facts as they are, and not to pander to the opinion of the masses. And they report the facts for the most part. Just because they reported that he delivered a strong performance, does not mean they're endorsing him, or engaging in propoganda.

actually a description of performance would be opinion now wouldnt it, the difference is their opinion regarding fianna fail always seem to be positive

steddyeddy · 27-11-2010 05:23PM

Einhard wrote: »

Well first off, it's not a national day of protest, despite what the unions might claim. From the figures I've seen, approx 50k turned up in Dublin to march. That might seem a large number, but in reality it is quite small relative to the general population. Furthermore, the only protest of any significance was in Dublin, so I really don't see how it can be described as a national day of anything.

Secondly, it's really not a huge story, and certainly not one that merits interrupting regular services. We know what's happening. People go on march, people make speeches, people angry. Why exactly does that need special coverage? It will be reported in full on the news later on. I don't see any reason for it to be broadcast live.

Incidentally, the students staged a mass protest in Westminster the other day. BBC and Sky News covered it as one would expect. But none of the regular channels broke from their normal schedules. People who bang on about RTE being a FF shill should bear that kind of thing in mind.

Rte is the national broadcaster by the way

copacetic · 27-11-2010 05:23PM

Biggins wrote: »

A national day of protest when people are coming from every corner of our country, about something that will effect generations, where we are about to sign up to a deal of rip-off percentage proportions too (See here) and something that will hit us all in the wallet till the day we die - and RTE will give us just sound-bites!

It's not a national day of protest, it's a minor enough protest by vested interests who with their greed in the good times had a major part getting us into this mess. Bitching and moaning that they have to help the rest of us dig our way out.

flynnlives · 27-11-2010 05:25PM

Einhard wrote: »

Cowen was strong in that particalar announcement. I expect RTE to report the facts as they are, and not to pander to the opinion of the masses. And they report the facts for the most part. Just because they reported that he delivered a strong performance, does not mean they're endorsing him, or engaging in propoganda.

They dont report the facts!!

A "strong performance" is not a fact its an opinion.

he stood there waffling for 10 minutes!!

They barely mentioned the utter collapse of gov. support in the by-election either. That is a fact!

Or is that not newsworthy?!!

mike65 · 27-11-2010 05:27PM

They could use RTE News Now on DTT/web for this sort of thing but the bean counters would (rightly as it happens) deduce that it would not be worth the extra expense for a handful of viewers. You might say they will already have a camera crew/reporter at the march and a newscaster in the building but the cost of mounting even a basic extra live broasdcast is beyond RTEs finances.

That and they wouldn't think to do it anyway of course.

steddyeddy · 27-11-2010 05:27PM

flynnlives wrote: »

They dont report the facts!!

A "strong performance" is not a fact its an opinion.

he stood there waffling for 10 minutes!!

They barely mentioned the utter collapse of gov. support in the by-election either. That is a fact!

Or is that not newsworthy?!!

yes a fact is that they cut the most important broadcast in recent times short.

flynnlives · 27-11-2010 05:30PM

By all accounts iv heard that O'Connor was booed out of it.
It was hard to hear him over the boos and heckling.

lets see will RTE report that at 6!!

colly10 · 27-11-2010 05:37PM

flynnlives wrote: »

By all accounts iv heard that O'Connor was booed out of it.
It was hard to hear him over the boos and heckling.

lets see will RTE report that at 6!!

I doubt it, I really hope so though, do ye recon they'll show that?

flynnlives · 27-11-2010 05:39PM

colly10 wrote: »

I doubt it, I really hope so though, do ye recon they'll show that?

Sure why wouldnt they, its news afterall!!!

unless...

soundbyte · 27-11-2010 05:49PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

RTE doesn't have a 24 hour news station. try the radio.

Eh, yes it does. RTE News Channel for those of us with digital. Sh!te mind you.

Einhard · 27-11-2010 05:54PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

actually a description of performance would be opinion now wouldnt it, the difference is their opinion regarding fianna fail always seem to be positive

I don't really understand where you are getting that from. I've seen plently of criticism of FF and the government on RTE, and particaulry over the past few weeks? Maybe you're watching the wrong programmes.

Biggins · 27-11-2010 05:54PM

Einhard wrote: »

Well first off, it's not a national day of protest, despite what the unions might claim. From the figures I've seen, approx 50k turned up in Dublin to march. That might seem a large number, but in reality it is quite small relative to the general population.

Well first in reply to above, its the first more better organised nations protest where people are being organised professionally, to come from all corners.

Furthermore, the only protest of any significance was in Dublin, so I really don't see how it can be described as a national day of anything.

...Because of you check buses have been organised by the unions from all said corners of Ireland to take people to our capital!!!
As for "small numbers" - what you you want? Numbers now have to reach over a certain quota now to be representative?

Einhard wrote: »

Secondly, it's really not a huge story, and certainly not one that merits interrupting regular services. We know what's happening. People go on march, people make speeches, people angry. Why exactly does that need special coverage? It will be reported in full on the news later on. I don't see any reason for it to be broadcast live.

* Its not a huge story? Are you for real? Ok, its so minor that only other nations stations are actually running it!
* Its not going to be reported in "full" - sound-bites is not "full".
* It don't have to be broadcast live!

Incidentally, the students staged a mass protest in Westminster the other day. BBC and Sky News covered it as one would expect. But none of the regular channels broke from their normal schedules. People who bang on about RTE being a FF shill should bear that kind of thing in mind.

* The student protests were only one aspect to a nations problems.
Totally different from our own todays more Irish protests, public and workers where coming from a hell of a lot more areas of workforce, institutions and public amenities to say the least.

People who bang on about RTE being a FF shill should bear that kind of thing in mind.

...And you should watch RTE for 25 years plus and then you will get a better picture picture of just how much our government has RTE by the balls and does with it, what it continuously does openly and slyly and has being doing for decades.

Donkey Oaty · 27-11-2010 05:54PM

Here's the RTE news twitter feed.

Not a strong performance.

Einhard · 27-11-2010 05:56PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Rte is the national broadcaster by the way

No. You don't say.

Einhard · 27-11-2010 05:58PM

flynnlives wrote: »

They dont report the facts!!

A "strong performance" is not a fact its an opinion.

he stood there waffling for 10 minutes!!

They barely mentioned the utter collapse of gov. support in the by-election either. That is a fact!

Or is that not newsworthy?!!

I watched reports on Sky, C4, and BBC and they all stated that it was strong performance on Cowen's part. That doesn't at all detract that he has been an absolute disastar for this nation. People seem to be p*issed off with RTE because they don't report the news as they would like to hear it more than anything else.

Minstrel27 · 27-11-2010 06:00PM

soundbyte wrote: »

Eh, yes it does. RTE News Channel for those of us with digital. Sh!te mind you.

Stop clutching at straws while attempting to back up a **** arguement. RTÉ News Now only repeats the news bulletins of the day and shows things like Euronews and Morning Ireland.

curlzy · 27-11-2010 06:03PM

RTE is owned by the government, they're pushing their agenda. Who's ever heard of a new station apologising to a government for reporting the new? RTE did when they reported the story about the painting of Brian Cowan on the toilet bowl. The admitted they rang his office to apologise. They're so biased it's sick. I don't watch it at all anymore.

RTE fail us yet again.

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