Banned in Ireland

wonderfulname · 19-11-2010 02:19AM

thebullkf wrote: »

eh...no.

have you seen it?

live animals killed on screen. including a 200 year old turtle....:mad:

Yes, if you could tell yourself it was special effects you'd be over it by now,

point proven

Johro · 19-11-2010 02:30AM

wonderfulname wrote: »

This is some real info on codex.

I'm not going to bother giving an intro, there's a lot of reading in the link, but I'm sure you'll manage.

Corporate wall of misinformation. Do NOT edit my posts.

Johro · 19-11-2010 02:31AM

penguin88 wrote: »

You do realise that herbal medicines are also subject to side-effects, right?

Have you got a source?

They have to be used properly, people think if they take more than suggested the benefit is greater/quicker.

Read the post, source at bottom.

wonderfulname · 19-11-2010 03:38AM

Johro wrote: »

Hey look this is a quote, if you click the little blue button above you'll see the original post remains intact

They're not a corporation :rolleyes:

maglite · 19-11-2010 04:05AM

So I read the first 4 pages,

People need to go check on the word illegal, if you can get a licence/permit/permission/use in an area they are not illegal..

Am there are a lot of "super trucks" on the road, just because there is a tunnel in dublin they cant fit in doesn't = illegal.

Fool of a post

HarryPotter41 · 19-11-2010 12:12PM

nomnomnom wrote: »

porn is illegal

giving your name in Irish to the Gardaí is also apparently judging by the slaps i have got everytime I have done so

First suggestion would be to stop getting into trouble with them

Secondly its not the least bit illegal to give your name in Irish, its your entitlement. Make sure you tell them that next time, and duck when you say it.

aDeener · 19-11-2010 12:34PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Watch foreign television without paying an annual tax/protection money to a state owned broadcaster one has little/no interest in watching.

God you're still banging on about the licence, thought you might have gotten over that by now

jackiebaron · 19-11-2010 01:01PM

MrPirate wrote: »

Not completely true. There's a shop in Dublin on Exchequer street (I think it's Fallons and something?) that you can get Lucky Charms, Captain Crunch, Fruit Loops and I think a few more American cereals. They're loads of American foods there (and foods from different countries too), 'cept the cereals are a bit... On the expensive side. O_O (You're looking at like 10euro a box at least.)

They're all crap. First (and last) time I took a spoonful of Fruit Loops I spat it back into the bowl, dumped the vile mess into the sink and scrubbed my teeth. Then went for a blood test to see if I'd developed diabetes.

Mike 1972 · 19-11-2010 03:32PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

A total of 14,500 Acts date from before the Act of Union of 1801.

A total of 2,600 of these laws are still officially in force, although they have long since fallen into disuse.One Act of 1310 provides that only those of English race are to be received into religious orders in Ireland.

Other statutes aimed at discouraging prostitution or restricted sports, dress and public assembly and 11th Century law caused French men within the Kingdom to pay a discriminatory tax, and remained officially the law of the land.

So does the Assise of Arms of 1181, which forbids Jewish people from owning armour.

There should be no such thing as a law which has "fallen into disuse" either enforce the damn thing or repeal it.

Actually Its high time the Government reviewed all legislation dating from before 1801 (and in the longer term everything from before 1922) and over say five years update the few laws worth keeping and then subject the rest to a blanket repeal. There should be nothing more than 250 years old on the statute books.

aDeener wrote: »

God you're still banging on about the licence, thought you might have gotten over that by now

Im sorry I must have missed the news about them repealing it ?

highlydebased · 19-11-2010 03:39PM

"Any person who shall pretend or exercise to use any type of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment, or pretend knowledge in any occult or or craft or science shall for any such offense suffer imprisonment at the time of one whole year and also shall be obliged to obscursion for his/her good behavior."

Mike 1972 · 19-11-2010 03:45PM

Neon-Circles wrote: »

"Any person who shall pretend or exercise to use any type of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment, or pretend knowledge in any occult or or craft or science shall for any such offense suffer imprisonment at the time of one whole year and also shall be obliged to obscursion for his/her good behavior."

Do the RTE guide still have an astrology page ?

Come to think of it the above definition sounds like any religious type Ive ever met.

Kurtosis · 19-11-2010 07:59PM

Johro wrote: »

They have to be used properly, people think if they take more than suggested the benefit is greater/quicker.

Read the post, source at bottom.

You seriously believe it's only if you take too much of a herbal medicines that's causes problems? Herbal medicines are capable of causing side effects at recommended doses.

I was more looking for an official source that gave the specifics of this "ban" on "All Vitamins, Herbal Remedies and Nutritional supplements", not just someone's blog post.

Mike 1972 · 19-11-2010 08:13PM

penguin88 wrote: »

Herbal medicines are capable of causing side effects at recommended doses.

Hardly a reason for banning restricting it though

All medicines can cause side effects regardless of whether theyre perscription or OTC

Even food is capable of causing side effects (more commonly known as allergies) at recommended doses.

Should we have to pay €50-80 to a doctor everytime we want something to eat ?

pinkheels88 · 19-11-2010 08:21PM

chucken1 wrote: »

Theres a law still on the books that makes it illegal to impersonate a witch..Theres no law about being a witch,but you cant impersonate one,apparently!!

Somebody should send a warrant out for "the white witch of Cobh".... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Augmerson · 19-11-2010 08:34PM

I'm fairly confident that there has been a ban on having fun in this country for awhile now.

kumate_champ07 · 19-11-2010 08:39PM

xzanti wrote: »

St. John's Wart :rolleyes: a simple homeopathic remedy for mild seasonal depression.. BANNED.. just why?

it interacts with other medication, people that would have sold it wouldnt have been as experinenced as trained pharmacists in dealing with possible interactions. I think its available on prescription

also its prob banned to protect the profits of large pharmacuetical companies. anti depressive meds can cost around 100euro a week, alot is payed for by the government. deals are done with companies to base themselves in Ireland. contracts have to be protected. prob the same reason for bans on generic medications like whats available in mexico, a whole lot cheaper to produce/sell

kumate_champ07 · 19-11-2010 08:41PM

chem wrote: »

Right, I want to highlight how much of a nanny state we live in. I know lots of people from different walks of life and jobs post here and I need your help. In most countries, the governments relise that people are different and so make laws that try to allow people follow there interests, while stopping other people who would miss use items, object etc....

For instance, did you know metal detecting is banned here?

This is the type of example im looking to list. Not legal (or now illeagal) highs etc. But things that other people across the world can do as a hobby, pastime or for fun. But cant here in Ireland.

Also laws that ban things like super trucks. "we built a tunnel to small for them to fit into so ban them".

Looking forward to your help on this one folks.

is the rest of our road infrastructure suitable for them? what about low bridges?

Misanthrope · 19-11-2010 08:42PM

xzanti wrote: »

St. John's Wart :rolleyes: a simple homeopathic remedy for mild seasonal depression.. BANNED.. just why?

St John's Wort can react dangerously with other drugs.There are at least 70 major interactions that can occur and hundreds of minor ones. It has been shown to cause multiple drug interactions through induction of the cytochrome P450 enzyme CYP3A4, but also CYP2C9. This results in the increased metabolism of those drugs, resulting in decreased concentration and clinical effect. The principal constituents thought to be responsible are hyperforin and amentoflavone. St. John's wort also has been shown to cause drug interactions through the induction of the P-glycoprotein (P-gp) efflux transporter. Increased P-gp expression results in decreased absorption and increased clearance of those drugs which leads to lower clinical concentrations and efficacy.

If St John's Wort was to be sold as a homeotpathetic product, one would need probably only one or two plants, (given the rate of dilution of the supposed active ingredient in such products),to start a company to produce it.

Homeopathy is quackery.It is FAIL in a bottle.

Mike 1972 · 19-11-2010 08:43PM

(sometimes)

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

it interacts with other medication

Which is why the label/leaflet warns about this.

aDeener · 19-11-2010 09:03PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Im sorry I must have missed the news about them repealing it ?

by any chance are you originally from cavan? :rolleyes:

kumate_champ07 · 19-11-2010 09:06PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

(sometimes)

Which is why the label/leaflet warns about this.

does it list all the possible interactions? I think its a complicated issue that cant be addressed with a simple label warning.

Kurtosis · 19-11-2010 10:25PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Hardly a reason for banning restricting it though

All medicines can cause side effects regardless of whether theyre perscription or OTC

Even food is capable of causing side effects (more commonly known as allergies) at recommended doses.

Should we have to pay €50-80 to a doctor everytime we want something to eat ?

I wasn't actually referring to St John's Wort here, I was responding to the poster who said that all vitamins, herbal medicines and nutritional supplements are being banned by the EU so that we can all take "chemically synthesised drugs with sh1t side-effects". I felt this implied that vitamins, herbal meds etc did not cause side effects...which is untrue.

The fact is these things aren't being banned. As far as I know, these products are now being regulated so that they can demonstrate quality, safety and efficacy. If products cannot demonstrate this, they will not be market.

thebullkf · 19-11-2010 11:02PM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Yes, if you could tell yourself it was special effects you'd be over it by now,

point proven

point not proven. another silly post.

Mike 1972 · 19-11-2010 11:16PM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

does it list all the possible interactions? I think its a complicated issue that cant be addressed with a simple label warning.

"This product can interact dangerously with or reduce the effectiveness of some perscription medications and hormonal contraceptives, Please consult your doctor before taking this product if you are currently on any of these" (or words to that effect) should cover it ?

aDeener wrote: »

by any chance are you originally from cavan? :rolleyes:

By any chance are you looking to go to Cuba or do you confine your hijacking to internet threads :rolleyes:

Ronin247 · 19-11-2010 11:17PM

Free trade with Europe !!

Why do we have VRT. Bast*rds protecting Bill C*llens livelyhood

Johro · 19-11-2010 11:36PM

wonderfulname wrote: »

They're not a corporation :rolleyes:

They'll do what the big corporations want them to do. Like telling poor farmers in undeveloped nations to grow this crop and this crop only, to export to the States, for measly wages. You seriously think they are setting out these rules for the good of the world? It's to keep the big pharmaceutical, chemical, and agri-businesses happy and profiting.
The FDA are just like the WHO, who raked in billions for pharmaceuticals through swine-flu vaccines. 'Swine flu' killed 18,000 people worldwide, approx. 4% of the annual 250,000-500,000 killed worldwide by seasonal flu.
The FDA operate through scare-mongering, saying the herbal health and food supplement industry is unregulated and therefore dangerous, that despite the fact that dietary supplements are far safer than table salt, aspirin, vaccines and many FDA-approved drugs.
Year after year, surveys conducted by poison control centers show dietary supplements to be the safest products of all.
Yet the FDA, through the codex, wants to enforce:

Steep laws governing food and nutritional supplements
Laws governing our rights to grow organic seeds
Laws governing our rights to buy organic produce
An increase on tight FDA rules on food and supplements.

See info on this from the Irish Institute For Nutrition and Health.

http://www.iinh.net/save_our_supplements_sos_campaign.htm

Johro · 19-11-2010 11:43PM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Hey look, this is a quote. :rolleyes:

So it is. Annoying though, and pedantic.

Johro · 19-11-2010 11:46PM

Neon-Circles wrote: »

"Any person who shall pretend or exercise to use any type of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment, or pretend knowledge in any occult or or craft or science shall for any such offense suffer imprisonment at the time of one whole year and also shall be obliged to obscursion for his/her good behavior."

In other words, Sabrina the teenage witch ain't welcome here.

Johro · 19-11-2010 11:59PM

penguin88 wrote: »

I wasn't actually referring to St John's Wort here, I was responding to the poster who said that all vitamins, herbal medicines and nutritional supplements are being banned by the EU so that we can all take "chemically synthesised drugs with sh1t side-effects". I felt this implied that vitamins, herbal meds etc did not cause side effects...which is untrue.

The fact is these things aren't being banned. As far as I know, these products are now being regulated so that they can demonstrate quality, safety and efficacy. If products cannot demonstrate this, they will not be market.

They were banned. More bans are on the way. Don't take my word for it, check out http://www.iinh.net/save_our_supplements_sos_campaign.htm
I have no problem with regulation. Some vitamins and supplements can have side effects, but mostly if used in excess or not taken properly.
'Year after year, surveys conducted by poison control centers show dietary supplements to be the safest products of all.'

But enough already. I'm just repeating myself.
I'm not on some campaign here. I just don't like being told by the American Food and Drug Agency what I can or can't use here in Ireland. I'm sure we have our own experts who can decide on the issue.

Kurtosis · 20-11-2010 12:22AM

Johro wrote: »

They were banned. More bans are on the way. Don't take my word for it, check out http://www.iinh.net/save_our_supplements_sos_campaign.htm
I have no problem with regulation. Some vitamins and supplements can have side effects, but mostly if used in excess or not taken properly.
'Year after year, surveys conducted by poison control centers show dietary supplements to be the safest products of all.'

But enough already. I'm just repeating myself.
I'm not on some campaign here. I just don't like being told by the American Food and Drug Agency what I can or can't use here in Ireland. I'm sure we have our own experts who can decide on the issue.

Wait, they were banned?! Better call the gardaí, I saw vitamins, herbal medicines and dietary supplements all on sale in a pharmacy today...care to comment?

Also, the FDA does not have any decision making power here in Ireland, so they can't tell you what to do/not to do. Some of the things you are posting are a bit ridiculous.

Banned in Ireland

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