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Too much of Gaeilge?

  • 18-11-2010 11:30PM
    #1
    WooPeeA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭


    Right, I know it's Irish and we should protect it etc. but I think that putting life-saving signs written only in Irish without any English translation (such as "Don't cross this line" at railway stations) is a bit too much.

    So now if someone dies it's gonna be his fault as 'has been warned' or what?

    I know it's a national language but we all know the reality.


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  • #2
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Yes indeed I agree, everyone who speaks it should be shot and their homes burned.






    not


  • #3
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    In fairness what else could it say?


  • #4
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    I think a useless language like Irish should be just left to die, instead of keeping it on life support.

    More useful European or global languages would be better off taught here.


  • #5
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    So now if someone dies it's gonna be his fault as 'has been warned' or what?
    No, it's his fault for being stupid enough to cross the line. Agreed though, signs only in Irish is a bit delusional.


  • #6
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I don't see the point if those signs in Irish. I fail to see how they contribute to the survival of the language.


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  • #7
    Enkidu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Enkidu


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I don't see the point if those signs in Irish. I fail to see how they contribute to the survival of the language.
    Natural Selection :pac:


  • #8
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    ottostreet wrote: »
    More useful European or global languages would be better off taught here.

    They are taught here


  • #9
    Feeona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Feeona


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    I know it's a national language but we all know the reality.

    Do people who don't speak Irish not realise the reality of getting hit by a train?


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    Right, I know it's Irish and we should protect it etc. but I think that putting life-saving signs written only in Irish without any English translation (such as "Don't cross this line" at railway stations) is a bit too much.

    So now if someone dies it's gonna be his fault as 'has been warned' or what?

    I know it's a national language but we all know the reality.
    Chances are, there are about 20 or so similar English only signs warning the same thing elsewhere, sometimes it's simply impossible to make all signs bi-lingual!


  • #11
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    They are taught here


    taught better. I did German & Irish in secondary school, and I've learned more cantonese from my girlfriend over a couple of hours than I did in 6 years in school.


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Enkidu wrote: »
    Natural Selection :pac:

    +1

    & common sense!


  • #13
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    ottostreet wrote: »
    taught better. I did German & Irish in secondary school, and I've learned more cantonese from my girlfriend over a couple of hours than I did in 6 years in school.

    'cause it serves your interests to do so


  • #14
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    I've been to Hungary a few times. All the friggin signs are in Hungarian. The cheek of them bloody central Europeans :rolleyes:


  • #15
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    In fairness what else could it say?
    johngalway wrote: »
    I've been to Hungary a few times. All the friggin signs are in Hungarian. The cheek of them bloody central Europeans :rolleyes:
    You're being disingenuous. I'm all for keeping Irish alive, but it's not our first language.


  • #16
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    'cause it serves your interests to do so

    Whose interests does Irish serve anymore?


  • #17
    who what when
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭who what when


    ottostreet wrote: »
    taught better. I did German & Irish in secondary school, and I've learned more cantonese from my girlfriend over a couple of hours than I did in 6 years in school.

    You could be on to something there. If our schools rewarded students with sex rather than grades we'd be be the most multilingual country in the world! Or at least the boys would be anyway!


  • #18
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Whose interests does Irish serve anymore?

    If it wasn't for the language shift in the 19th century we'd all be speaking Irish now! If you were brought up speaking Irish you'd be complaining about having to speak English!


  • #19
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Whose interests does Irish serve anymore?

    200,000 speakers or so and rising


  • #20
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Feeona wrote: »
    Do people who don't speak Irish not realise the reality of getting hit by a train?

    Well i saw some Poles hopping across the barriers on a railway crossing the otherday. Perhaps if they understood what the Irish for "Red lights means stop" they would not have taken such foolish actions.


  • #21
    Enkidu
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    who what when wrote: »
    You could be on to something there. If our schools rewarded students with sex rather than grades we'd be be the most multilingual country in the world! Or at least the boys would be anyway!
    Cunnilingual even!


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  • #22
    twinQuins
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    johngalway wrote: »
    I've been to Hungary a few times. All the friggin signs are in Hungarian. The cheek of them bloody central Europeans :rolleyes:

    Don't the majority (at least) of Hungarians actually speak Hungarian? Maybe you should think these things through, first.


  • #23
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    who what when wrote: »
    You could be on to something there. If our schools rewarded students with sex rather than grades we'd be be the most multilingual country in the world! Or at least the boys would be anyway!


    Now that's just silly.

    I'll give German the benefit of the doubt in a school environment, simply because I enjoyed the language, the class was decent, and our teacher was clued in on how to make a language interesting. I was average at German.

    However, Irish...Irish was just...pointless. I've never been one to hang onto stuff for sentimental value, and maybe that's what makes me view Irish with such negativity. I just don't see any real advantages to learning and using Irish, or why we do so, apart from good old rose-tinted glasses.


  • #24
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    who what when wrote: »
    You could be on to something there. If our schools rewarded students with sex rather than grades we'd be be the most multilingual country in the world! Or at least the boys would be anyway!

    To be honest all the fit girls speak Irish, just look at TG4 weather girls. It's an incentive for lads.
    Gaeilge is sexy ;)


  • #25
    who what when
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭who what when


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Now that's just silly.
    QUOTE]

    Ask your average class of 17 year old boys how silly it is!


  • #26
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Dudess wrote: »
    You're being disingenuous. I'm all for keeping Irish alive, but it's not our first language.
    Morkarleth wrote: »
    Don't the majority (at least) of Hungarians actually speak Hungarian? Maybe you should think these things through, first.

    :D

    Two bites, not bad.

    :p


  • #27
    Euro_Kraut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Learning Irish doesn't stop people form learning other languages. In fact being exposed to other languages at an early age increase your ability to learn other languages later in life.

    Gaelscoil students should have a particular advantage learning other European languages later in life having under gone immersion learning. Here in Switzerland huge money is being spent in promoting immersion learning. We are fortunate in Ireland that the infrastructure already exists. In anything we need to exploit it more.


  • #28
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    Right, I know it's Irish and we should protect it etc. but I think that putting life-saving signs written only in Irish without any English translation (such as "Don't cross this line" at railway stations) is a bit too much.

    If we cant mess with the english will life ever be fun anymore?


  • #29
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    Gaeilge is sexy ;)

    Plainly someone who's never been in Swedish class.

    :eek:


  • #30
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Whose interests does Irish serve anymore?

    Those people who translate all state documentation into Irish & some bods in TG4...

    I'll think of more profitable & essential services later.:rolleyes:


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  • #31
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Stained Class wrote: »

    I'll think of more profitable & essential services later.:rolleyes:

    Ah yes, companies that produce paper!:D


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