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How would make a better TD for Louth, Gerry Adams or Michael McDowell?

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  • #32
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Don't care
    wellboy76 wrote: »
    Sure you wouldnt understand him anyway with his diddlediddlediddle SI-TU-ATION accent

    Ah sure he has a MONNNNN---DEEET from the people up North. He has no MONNNNN---DEET from the people down South though.


  • #33
    vonnie10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭vonnie10


    Don't care
    I personally think Mcdowell was a very good politician. He certainly wasn't the most likeable chap and is perhaps a little elitist but he had integrity and principles which i think is what this country needs!! Some of his policies were slightly overboard and draconian but i think as a nation we have too much of the "look the other way" mentality which is largely why we are in the situation we are now!! I can certainly see why he might not widely appeal to voters but he is a very shrewd politican in my opinion !!


  • #34
    policarp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    Michael McDowell
    If Mary Harney and Michael McDowell got on there might still be a PD party.
    Michael McDowell is a Gold Digger. No money in politics, so back to the money pot. Law.


  • #35
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
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    At least McDowell would have some sense of what an economy is, and know what economic policy is, he was the main crier for a low corporation tax which is why we attracted so mcuh foreign industry

    Adams was and is about representing a tribe rather than a policy

    Neither are ideal at this stage tbh


  • #36
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Gerry Adams would make a great minister for justice


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  • #37
    policarp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    Michael McDowell
    Romina Mango Typewriter wrote: »
    At least McDowell would have some sense of what an economy is, and know what economic policy is, he was the main crier for a low corporation tax which is why we attracted so mcuh foreign industry

    Adams was and is about representing a tribe rather than a policy

    Neither are ideal at this stage tbh

    So was Dev...


  • #38
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    policarp wrote: »
    So was Dev...

    Yes he was. And we ended up with a constitution that explicitly endorsed the authority of the catholic church


  • #39
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Is McDowell that nutter who made the offos shut at 10pm? I hate that guy, in fact I think he's a creep.


  • #40
    Francesca Creamy Laborer
    Posts: 374 ✭✭ Francesca Creamy Laborer


    Don't care
    .


  • #41
    qwertplaywert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    Adams wouldn't stand a chance of getting my vote because of what he stands for; even more reason for not giving him my vote would be the fact that hes not based in Louth, nor do I imagine him relocating here or puting the interests of Louth above that of his own cause.


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  • #42
    PanchoVilla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    Don't care
    Is the man who would start a row in an empty room on the way back?

    What word best describes Michael McDowell during his political career – arrogant, intolerant, self-serving, brilliant, courageous, or exciting? They all applied to him at different times. Whether one liked him or loathed him, he left his mark on Irish politics.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/ryle-dwyer/is-the-man-who-would-start-a-row-in-an-empty-room-on-the-way-back-125996.html


  • #43
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Don't care
    qwertplaywert wrote: »
    Adams wouldn't stand a chance of getting my vote because of what he stands for; even more reason for not giving him my vote would be the fact that hes not based in Louth, nor do I imagine him relocating here or puting the interests of Louth above that of his own cause.

    What exactly did he stand for in your view? A free, united Ireland? Thats a good thing. Equal rights? Also good. Did he use violence against the british army? He sure did, but it was a David and Goliath scenario, that took some balls! Did he eventually say "we'll stop fighting if you's do, and give us our equality"? Yes he did, and he got it! Can you imagine Clowen, bertie, or any of the rest of that nest of vipers doing ANYTHING remotely as backbone requiring as that? Not if we owed 15BN in debt. Oh wait...


  • #44
    qwertplaywert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    newmug wrote: »
    What exactly did he stand for in your view? A free, united Ireland? Thats a good thing. Equal rights? Also good. Did he use violence against the british army? He sure did, but it was a David and Goliath scenario, that took some balls! Did he eventually say "we'll stop fighting if you's do, and give us our equality"? Yes he did, and he got it! Can you imagine Clowen, bertie, or any of the rest of that nest of vipers doing ANYTHING remotely as backbone requiring as that? Not if we owed 15BN in debt. Oh wait...

    The man never extended any sincere apologys or condolences about some of the violence in the north- he may have claimed it was wrong, and counter productive to the peace process, but it was morally reprehensible of him not to openly condem actions that he, by way of IRA and Sein Fein activitys, was at least partially to blame for.

    Another thing that has always annoyed me is his refusal to acknowledge his past IRA membership. I would have a lot more respect for the man[not that I have much to begin with] if he would just admit it, which he won't. It really speaks of his lack of character that he sees himself as this upstanding man of the people, yet refuses to accept things he has done in his life , most likely in order to further his political career.


  • #45
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    vonnie10 wrote: »
    politician. He certainly wasn't the most likeable chap and is perhaps a little elitist but he had integrity and principles which i think is what this country needs!! Some of his policies were slightly overboard and draconian

    Sounds like adolf to me..(fock you deputy Godwin, FOCK YOU!!)


  • #46
    COYW
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭COYW


    Romina Mango Typewriter wrote: »
    At least McDowell would have some sense of what an economy is, and know what economic policy is, he was the main crier for a low corporation tax which is why we attracted so mcuh foreign industry

    Adams was and is about representing a tribe rather than a policy

    Neither are ideal at this stage tbh

    Agree, SF dont have a clue about economics. In my opinion, anyone who votes for Gerry Adams needs to take a long hard look at themselves when you consider the history of the movement he represents.


  • #47
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    COYW wrote: »
    Agree, SF dont have a clue about economics. In my opinion, anyone who votes for Gerry Adams needs to take a long hard look at themselves when you consider the history of the movement he represents.

    Though funnily enough if Sinn Fein had been in power for the last 12 years we would not be in the mess we are now.

    Of course we wouldn't have been so rich in the boom years, but hey that's not much use now is it.


  • #48
    delta720
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭delta720


    Don't care
    Z Brannigan wrote: »
    Deffo Gerry.

    Also regarding the "parachute" comment, Adams announced he is moving to Louth in the next few weeks so by the time he runs for the Dáil he will have been a resident there for a fair bit.

    Thats a joke right? Listening to his statement on the radio yesterday I noticed the man couldn't even say the word 'Louth' correctly, nevermind know anything about what the people of Louth want.

    At the end of the day your local TD is ment to represent the local population in the Dail. Gerry Adams has picked Louth because he wants to be a TD and he thinks we're the most republican. He knows nothing about local politics.

    Auther Morgan only ever got in because he was actually actively involved at a local level. I'd be surprised if Louth people, apart from young lads who think they're in the IRA, will vote him in. Remembering that Seamus Kirk will get his seat automatically being Ceann Comhairle.


  • #49
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Michael McDowell
    delta720 wrote: »
    Thats a joke right? Listening to his statement on the radio yesterday I noticed the man couldn't even say the word 'Louth' correctly, nevermind know anything about what the people of Louth want.

    At the end of the day your local TD is ment to represent the local population in the Dail. Gerry Adams has picked Louth because he wants to be a TD and he thinks we're the most republican. He knows nothing about local politics. .
    Sorry but on that point alone I have to point out absolute glaring wrongs!

    I refer back to a previous thread on this topic.
    Actually, Mr Adams spends a LOT of time around Drogheda and its regions, even to Cloughterhead to aid local staff there, Danny Churchill and Ruth Tuite. Mr Adams been around this part of Louth for years.
    He's a regular on the streets of Drogheda sometimes.

    ....And I can say that as a definite non-Sinn Fein fan.
    He's always down in Drogheda. Has been for years and years (has friends/relatives/etc) there.
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056089139

    I, myself have fallen across him, many times on the streets of Drogheda. I know where to find him in bars, where he gets his hair cut and which local businesses and shops there he frequents.

    Whatever the man is in his previous past - he is most certainly not new to the region that he will be standing in and is well known in the area indeed!
    Will people please stop entering that "just parachuting in" rubbish and get their facts straight!

    So he says "Louth" with an accent - whoop-de-do!
    I'd rather hear him saying it - than Cowen slurring it any day!
    ...And he knows a hell of a lot about local politics up my way!


  • #50
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Michael McDowell
    alex73 wrote: »
    Exactly,, Lets face it, what has Sinn Fein ever really done for ROI?.. steal from Banks and Kill gardas

    What has FF ever done for Ireland only help the banks steal from us and Kill Ireland in general closing hospital wards and getting rid of beds.


  • #51
    qwertplaywert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    whycliff wrote: »
    What has FF ever done for Ireland only help the banks steal from us and Kill Ireland in general closing hospital wards and getting rid of beds.


    Just because your kettle filled with water isn't working doesn't mean you should replace the water with orange juice.


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  • #52
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Michael McDowell
    qwertplaywert wrote: »
    Just because your kettle filled with water isn't working doesn't mean you should replace the water with orange juice.

    Take a bow son, post of the day surely.


  • #53
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    qwertplaywert wrote: »
    Just because your kettle filled with water isn't working doesn't mean you should replace the water with orange juice.

    You'll never get a refund from Argos when they find out that you did that.


  • #54
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Don't care
    This is an interesting choice of candidates there. At the moment it's absolutely all about the economy & economically SF are batshít insane. So at the moment I'd have to go for der fuhrer Michael McDowell.


  • #55
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Don't care
    McDowell any day of the week.


  • #56
    angelfire9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    Don't care
    newmug wrote: »
    What exactly did he stand for in your view? A free, united Ireland? Thats a good thing. Equal rights? Also good. Did he use violence against the british army? He sure did, but it was a David and Goliath scenario, that took some balls! Did he eventually say "we'll stop fighting if you's do, and give us our equality"? Yes he did, and he got it! Can you imagine Clowen, bertie, or any of the rest of that nest of vipers doing ANYTHING remotely as backbone requiring as that? Not if we owed 15BN in debt. Oh wait...

    SF/IRA never apologised for the killing of Jerry Mc Cabe in fact Gerry Adams himself DENIED SF/IRA involvement in Adare

    I would canvass in Louth for ANY CANDIDATE rather than Adams
    FF/FG/LAB/GREENS/IND I don't really care
    Dustin for the Dail!

    At least Dustin isn't a murdering scum


  • #57
    Pookah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    Michael McDowell
    In regard to Adam's 'parachuting' I was the under the impression he had a house in Ravensdale, so he has lived in Louth at least some of the time.

    I may be wrong on this, but I believe it to be the case.


  • #58
    Pookah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    Michael McDowell
    qwertplaywert wrote: »
    Just because your kettle filled with water isn't working doesn't mean you should replace the water with orange juice.

    Did you study in the Cantona School of Philosophy?


  • #59
    Venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Michael McDowell
    COYW wrote: »
    Agree, SF dont have a clue about economics. In my opinion, anyone who votes for Gerry Adams needs to take a long hard look at themselves when you consider the history of the movement he represents.

    And the current shower of clowns in office do?


  • #60
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Michael McDowell
    I dont get the mindset of some people here and indeed in Ireland.

    I'm not a big shinners head before i say any of this.

    Barrack Obama,George Bush, David Cameron, Tony Blair ect have all sanctioned the killing civilians on a daily basis but they are not called murdering scum or terrorists?
    107,000 civilian deaths in Iraq since the begining of the war.
    Is it because they supposedly represent some sort of western idealism that most people have bought into due to propaganda and lies?


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  • #61
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Where's the "elect someone who isnt a reactionary, outdated Civil War politician like those two eejits" option?


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