Gerry adams to go for election in louth

jimmycrackcorm · 14-11-2010 03:06PM

Let's see if Gerry gives up his mp seat in advance of the election in Louth...

Biggins · 14-11-2010 03:10PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Let's see if Gerry gives up his mp seat in advance of the election in Louth...

He would have to for definite, I'd imagine.
It would be seen as a possible conflict of interests.
English elected MP versus Irish TD.

P_1 · 14-11-2010 03:10PM

So a scumbag wants to join a chamber full of scumbags?

Fair enough, I hope the good people of Louth tell him to fúck right off though.

alex73 · 14-11-2010 03:16PM

Can't Speak Irish (Correctly),

Hasn't a clue of Irish polictics.

No qualifications, no 3rd level education, no experience managing a real economy (not one funded by London)

He has great grass root support, to to leave his ground for louth is a risk

Biggins · 14-11-2010 03:18PM

alex73 wrote: »

Can't Speak Irish (Correctly),

Hasn't a clue of Irish polictics.

No qualifications, no 3rd level education, no experience managing a real economy (not one funded by London)

He has great grass root support, to to leave his ground for louth is a risk

By that description then - he sounds EXACTLY like a Donegal Labour bye-election candidate then! :pac:

alex73 · 14-11-2010 03:18PM

silkworm53 wrote: »

Was Arthur Morgan told to bite the bullet or.... bite the bullet?

Anyways Gerry Adams is British. What business has this foreigner in our country?

To be fair on Gerry, The very last thing he is is British.

Don't like him, but I would not sink so low as to call him British.

Anyway.. we voted in the G. Friday agreement to allow anyone born in the north to be identified as Irish if they want.

So legally he is Irish.

bleg · 14-11-2010 03:24PM

Stinks of desperation.

ricero · 14-11-2010 03:25PM

Gerry Adams for taoiseach cool:)

silkworm53 · 14-11-2010 03:28PM

Biggins wrote: »

Ask our president?

Your answer lies in all reality in your view point of what constitutes "being Irish" - the fact that he was born on our "one Island" or that politically, he was born under a different regime?

...But that's maybe a topic for another thread?

Adams? That's a Brit name for sure.

Biggins · 14-11-2010 03:29PM

silkworm53 wrote: »

Adams? That's a Brit name for sure.

Are you seriously trying to bait or troll?

If your going to discuss this matter, at least do so with a touch of reality and not that rubbish!

alex73 · 14-11-2010 03:30PM

silkworm53 wrote: »

Adams? That's a Brit name for sure.

Legally he is 100% Irish.

Recognition of the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose; and
Confirmation that the right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland.

southsiderosie · 14-11-2010 03:32PM

alex73 wrote: »

Can't Speak Irish (Correctly),

Hasn't a clue of Irish polictics.

No qualifications, no 3rd level education, no experience managing a real economy (not one funded by London)

He has great grass root support, to to leave his ground for louth is a risk

And with all of the qualifications held by Haughey, Cowen, and Lenihan, look where the country is now.

I would like to see Sinn Fein be able to talk about economics in a way that doesn't boil down to "capitalism stinks!", but there is absolutely no correlation between level of education and knowledge of basic economic principles, especially within the current government.

Joey the lips · 14-11-2010 03:35PM

silkworm53 wrote: »

Adams? That's a Brit name for sure.

Jackie Charlton.... Now there is a brit name.... Never stopped him doing great work in ireland.....

Having said that Seanie Fitzpatrick is more irish than anything else....

Prob a safe bet to say a brit name is better running ireland.....

Feck off enda...

alex73 · 14-11-2010 03:41PM

southsiderosie wrote: »

And with all of the qualifications held by Haughey, Cowen, and Lenihan, look where the country is now.

I would like to see Sinn Fein be able to talk about economics in a way that doesn't boil down to "capitalism stinks!", but there is absolutely no correlation between level of education and knowledge of basic economic principles, especially within the current government.

Sinn Fein were good for standing up for Nationalists in the North. Credit where its due..

But in the south their polices would see is, outside the EU (which the opposed) outside the euro, with higher Corporation tax. So basically Sinn Fein would have us in the same position in Europe as Moldova. Its all very well to oppose capitalism and business greed. But that is the show that is in town and we need to know how to act our part.

Cat Melodeon · 14-11-2010 03:43PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

A parachute candidate so.
Doesn't live in the area and no record of constituency work for the locals

Sure wasn't his brother Liam chairman of the Louth comhairle ceantair (although G Adams denies all knowledge of this).

bigneacy · 14-11-2010 04:09PM

alex73 wrote: »

Sinn Fein were good for standing up for Nationalists in the North. Credit where its due..

But in the south their polices would see is, outside the EU (which the opposed) outside the euro, with higher Corporation tax. So basically Sinn Fein would have us in the same position in Europe as Moldova. Its all very well to oppose capitalism and business greed. But that is the show that is in town and we need to know how to act our part.

Sinn Féin have extreme left policies. Not compatible with the way we want to live and the way we want our country to move forward.

(We = The majority of Irish Voters.)

southsiderosie · 14-11-2010 04:16PM

alex73 wrote: »

Sinn Fein were good for standing up for Nationalists in the North. Credit where its due..

But in the south their polices would see is, outside the EU (which the opposed) outside the euro, with higher Corporation tax. So basically Sinn Fein would have us in the same position in Europe as Moldova. Its all very well to oppose capitalism and business greed. But that is the show that is in town and we need to know how to act our part.

I don't think that people need to accept the current system, my issue is that Sinn Fein's policies don't really go anywhere new. There isn't a lot of talk about where revenues are going to come from (other than soak the rich type stuff), but a lot of talk about what they will be spent on. SF seems like they are very good at constituent services, but not good at articulating a viable long-term vision for the country outside of the 'national question'.*

But my general point was that I don't think Adams' lack of formal education as compared to his counterparts should necessarily be a knock against him, especially since none of the current shower seem to have put their fancy educations to good use.

*please don't cut and paste their "plan" from the SF website, thanks.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 14-11-2010 04:25PM

alex73 wrote: »

Can't Speak Irish (Correctly),

Not many TDs can. The Fine Gael gaelthacht spokesperson freely admits to hardly being able to string a sentence in Irish.

ghostdancer · 14-11-2010 07:23PM

bigneacy wrote: »

Sinn Féin have extreme left policies. Not compatible with the way we want to live and the way we want our country to move forward.

(We = The majority of Irish Voters.)

funny, I could have sworn the pretty left-ist Labour party and Eamon Gilmore are massively popular at the moment...

Odysseus · 14-11-2010 08:11PM

As a Hunter it could be interesting, I could go to Mr Adams to complain about Mr Aherns policies affecting my right to hunt though his restrictive firearm policies. "Mr Adams could you bring up the issues of firearm certs in our local area with your fellow TD Mr Ahern?"

I would more than likely never get another firearms cert.

Nodin · 14-11-2010 08:15PM

bigneacy wrote: »

Sinn Féin have extreme left policies. Not compatible with the way we want to live and the way we want our country to move forward.

(We = The majority of Irish Voters.)

....because unregulated capitalism has worked out soooooo well...

sanbrafyffe · 14-11-2010 11:14PM

ya but not just the taoiseachs.look at harney.she was a school techer.how the hell did that fat yoke get into polotics.i wonder was she an arts teacher cause i seen her with a load of paint all over her in the paper last week lolQUOTE=southsiderosie;69016072]And with all of the qualifications held by Haughey, Cowen, and Lenihan, look where the country is now.

I would like to see Sinn Fein be able to talk about economics in a way that doesn't boil down to "capitalism stinks!", but there is absolutely no correlation between level of education and knowledge of basic economic principles, especially within the current government.[/QUOTE]

MUSEIST · 14-11-2010 11:29PM

Nodin wrote: »

....because unregulated capitalism has worked out soooooo well...[/QUO

surely a shift to the left is what the country needs. A shift from greedy capitalism towards protectionism socialism would really help ireland recover. Obviously Sinn Fein have only one agenda but labour would be ideal

Biggins · 14-11-2010 11:36PM

MUSEIST wrote: »

Nodin wrote: »

....because unregulated capitalism has worked out soooooo well...

surely a shift to the left is what the country needs. A shift from greedy capitalism towards protectionism socialism would really help ireland recover. Obviously Sinn Fein have only one agenda but labour would be ideal

With the greatest of respect to other future Labour candidates, if the quality of future Labour candidates is the same as the present Donegal bye-election one is, I wouldn't hold out much hope.

southsiderosie · 14-11-2010 11:44PM

MUSEIST wrote: »

Nodin wrote: »

....because unregulated capitalism has worked out soooooo well...

surely a shift to the left is what the country needs. A shift from greedy capitalism towards protectionism socialism would really help ireland recover. Obviously Sinn Fein have only one agenda but labour would be ideal

What is "protectionism socialism" and how would that actually work given Ireland's membership in the EU?

orourkeda · 15-11-2010 12:18AM

Biggins wrote: »

I have no doubts whatsoever he will win the Drogheda seat.
The current lot there elected are completely useless and dire. Louth has two TD's that for years have been funnelling everything they possibly could, north to the Dundalk region (where they are from) and south Louth has been (and still is) VERY poorly represented by O'Dowd - and a lot of the locals know or think that way.

But if SF are going to win a seat co louth is as good a place to start for them as any

Nodin · 15-11-2010 12:31AM

Don't know about "socialist protectionism". I'd just like to see a social model along the lines of the Swedes or maybe the Germans. While nothing is perfect, somethings are closer to some ideal state than others. Certainly the 'fuck the hindmost' culture of nepotism, cronyism and exploitation that we have isn't worth a Cork djs ****.

Cavehill Red · 15-11-2010 12:33AM

I hope the Louth people elect Gerry.

On behalf of the people of West Belfast, who've been without representation in Westminster for far too long, I hope this.

southsiderosie · 15-11-2010 12:38AM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

I hope the Louth people elect Gerry.

On behalf of the people of West Belfast, who've been without representation in Westminster for far too long, I hope this.

Do you really think that Adams will be replaced with a non-SF representative? How will his leaving make a difference for how this constituency is represented in Westminster? People who vote for SF know the deal in this regard.

Cavehill Red · 15-11-2010 12:41AM

southsiderosie wrote: »

Do you really think that Adams will be replaced with a non-SF representative? How will his leaving make a difference for how this constituency is represented in Westminster? People who vote for SF know the deal in this regard.

I think it's more likely that West Belfast will elect a non-SF MP if the candidate were not Adams, yes.

Gerry adams to go for election in louth

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