Good journalists?

benjamin d · 14-11-2010 09:10PM #1

So I think its pretty clear who people around here don't rate as journalists, but is there anyone out there that you do pay heed to and think are worth their salt? And lets keep it positive because there are plenty of threads for bashing the crap ones in AH!:p

mloc123 · 14-11-2010 09:13PM

Alison O'Riordan is decent

Snakeblood · 14-11-2010 09:14PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Alison O'Riordan is decent

She lays bare the heart of man as with a scalpel. Dizzying insight into the modern condition.

benjamin d · 14-11-2010 09:14PM

That's this thread ruined before it started so...:rolleyes:

PanchoVilla · 14-11-2010 09:29PM

I hear Bertie Ahern is writing an exposé on corruption in Irish politics.

Snakeblood · 14-11-2010 09:31PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

I hear Bertie Ahern is writing a memoir on corruption in Irish politics.

There you go.

bonerm · 14-11-2010 09:31PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

I hear Bertie Ahern is writing an exposé on corruption in Irish politics.

Well they do say "write about what you know."

Poly · 14-11-2010 09:33PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

I hear Bertie Ahern is writing an exposé on corruption in Irish politics.

and his former girlfriend is a super journalist too.

Nodin · 14-11-2010 09:37PM

benjamin d wrote: »

........... because there are plenty of threads for bashing the crap ones in AH!:p

....that get locked, because pointing out shoddy journalism and factual inaccuracies upsets some people....

shizle · 14-11-2010 09:49PM

I've always been very impressed by Christina Lamb, whenever I've read anything of hers. She's the foreign correspondent for The Sunday Times and often writes feature length articles in the News Review supplement.

jimmyw · 14-11-2010 09:49PM

Niamh Lyons, Fionnan Sheehan.

Micky Dolenz · 14-11-2010 09:50PM

Careful now

Orange69 · 14-11-2010 09:52PM

Oxymoronic thread title is oxymoronic.

sollar · 14-11-2010 09:52PM

Gene Kerrigan, i think fintan o toole is very good too.

OutlawPete · 14-11-2010 09:59PM

Kevin Myers.

Yes, he can be vitriolic and senstaionlositic and I agree with only around 25% of what he writes and the opinions he expresses.

However, when I read his articles, I feel like I am getting an opinion that he is invested in, right or wrong.

There so much left wing, formulaic, ****e that is served up in today's newspapers that you don't feel like it is written by journalist at all, but a bunch of sheep that have only one interest and that is to not offend, be as politically correct as possible and make sure that the masses will approve.

Sarah Carey's articles I find interesting also, again - don't always agree withe her, but she is a thoughtful writer and so I enjoy reading her as, even when I don't agree with her opinions, they will at least challenge my thinking on matters and the odd time even change my opinion them.

Paparazzo · 14-11-2010 10:00PM

Kevin Myres. He always tells it like it is, his article is always 100% fact. Unlike some other journalists that just make shít up and be controversial.

Terry McGeehan in The Star is the funniest, always worth a read.

bonerm · 14-11-2010 10:01PM

Snakeblood wrote: »

She lays bare the heart of man as with a scalpel. Dizzying insight into the modern condition.

Agreed. Not to mention how Hannover Street comes alive when I read her powerful prose. A chilling exposé on life in the big bad city from a unique talent who has taken gonzo journalism to the next level.

themadhair · 14-11-2010 10:11PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Terry McGeehan in The Star is the funniest, always worth a read.

Cracks me up everytime. But then I feel like crying afterwards because what he has wrote is true )-:.

Have to give a nod to Jim Gallagher of the Sunday World for doggedly digging up the details regarding the House of Prayer. But then I may be biased on that one.

Fulton Crown · 14-11-2010 10:18PM

Good Journalist...now just what is that ?

Someone entertaining ? someone funny ...someone investigative ?

Or maybe a combo of all three + more.

These are straightened times ..we need journalists who are not afraid to tell it like it is ...lay bare the facts and go after the sacred cows.

Allas in Ireland we have not got even one .....

OutlawPete · 14-11-2010 10:20PM

Be class if Biggins got his own column

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 14-11-2010 10:29PM

Can we mention sports journalists???

Conor Bourke · 14-11-2010 10:35PM

Victoria Mary Clarke

*I joke, please don't hurt me

ascanbe · 14-11-2010 10:36PM

Myers isn't a journalist; he's a polemicist.
Apparently he used to be a journalist, once upon a time.

Millicent · 14-11-2010 10:40PM

ascanbe wrote: »

Myers isn't a journalist; he's a polemicist.
Apparently he used to be a journalist, once upon a time.

Agreed, he is a columnist, not a journalist in any way. Myers saddens me a bit because he has a great writing skill and is obviously incredibly intelligent. He could be capable of some great journalism if only his bias and narcissistic tendency to favour his own view as absolute could be reigned in.

Millicent · 14-11-2010 10:41PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Kevin Myres. He always tells it like it is, his article is always 100% fact.

:pac: You get the Pacman face because I refuse to believe you're serious!

Fulton Crown · 14-11-2010 10:48PM

Millicent wrote: »

Agreed, he is a columnist, not a journalist in any way. Myers saddens me a bit because he has a great writing skill and is obviously incredibly intelligent. He could be capable of some great journalism if only his bias and narcissistic tendency to favour his own view as absolute could be reigned in.

Myers is the only one with the BALLS to tell it like it is ...he is on the money 90% of the time.

Vincent Brown is the only other to come near him in staring down the foookoos in the FF party and going after the sacred cows of Irish Society.

Who for instance is going to call those cnunts in the Universities to task for their shameless self agrandisment and blatent nest feathering.

Who CONTROLLS these fookoos...how do they get away with it ...somebody is failing to do their job.

Who will kook arter our interests..the interests of John Q Taxpayer !!

Its a disgrace a fcukin disgrace...aploogies for the language but it makes me so fcukin maaaaddd

OutlawPete · 14-11-2010 11:00PM

Millicent wrote: »

Agreed, he is a columnist, not a journalist in any way. Myers saddens me a bit because he has a great writing skill and is obviously incredibly intelligent. He could be capable of some great journalism if only his bias and narcissistic tendency to favour his own view as absolute could be reigned in.

I don't agree that he is anymore narcissistic than any other journo or that he should reign in his own views as they are what make his articles refreshingly unformulaic (most likley not a word

).

I thought his "bastards" remark when accusing unmarried mothers of leeching from the state was disgraceful and as a nationalist, I find his views of Northern Ireland and indeed, republicanism also, a disgrace.

However, I still find what he writes and the way he writes it most engaging and he never fails to stir emotion, whether for the good or for the bad. His articles are obviously well written, I don't think anyone would deny that - but there is much more to him than the fact that he his mastery of the English language.

He's someone who has opinions and he is invested in them, undoubtedly - but also that he has conviction in them and that is what is rare, right or wrong.

RoundyMooney · 14-11-2010 11:02PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Be class if Biggins got his own column

He'd be goosed, he could only write one a day.

Seriously, a right good political satirist is what we need, someone who lands heavier, more incisive punches than the likes of Miriam Lord.

I like Gene Kerrigan, pity he writes for a paper I don't, and will never pay money for.

Millicent · 14-11-2010 11:10PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

I don't agree that he is anymore narcissistic than any other journo or that he should reign in his own views as they are what make his articles refreshingly unformulaic (most likley not a word ).

I thought his "bastards" remark when accusing unmarried mothers of leeching from the state was disgraceful and as a nationalist, I find his views of Northern Ireland and indeed, republicanism also, a disgrace.

However, I still find what he writes and the way he writes it most engaging and he never fails to stir emotion, whether for the good or for the bad. His articles are obviously well written, I don't think anyone would deny that - but there is much more to him than the fact that he his mastery of the English language.

He's someone who has opinions and he is invested in them, undoubtedly - but also that he has conviction in them and that is what is rare, right or wrong.

I actually agree with just about all of this Pete. As I said, I do greatly admire his style (of writing that is). I do think newspaper columns, by their very nature, favour narcissism, more than your typical news article would. He does utilise a very personal style that I don't think anyone could replicate and I admire him for that. Were he not writing on political matters, I think I'd even enjoy his work.

I can admire the strength of his convictions -- where he falls down in my eyes is refusing to consider any other viewpoint as credible outside of his own.

14-11-2010 11:11PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Alison O'Riordan is decent

Who the **** is Alison O'Riordan? She's talked about here constantly and I honest to **** have no idea who the hell she is!

Millicent · 14-11-2010 11:17PM

Thought of a journalist I admire -- Colm Keena and his and Geraldine Kennedy's refusal to name sources.

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