We see but do we care.

milos · 13-11-2010 09:24PM #1

Hi all
Seen something today that deeply saddened my heart. But before that let me tell you a short story.
While growing up in the 70s I witnessed a barefoot young itinerant with her new baby thrown off a CIE (Dublin bus now) because she was an itinerant. It was something that shamed me because I did nothing.
Today I saw a begger being moved along by two young garda in Talbot St, Dublin. He had no shoes.
Thank God I had some cash in my pocket and I was able to buy him a pair. This was the last of my money but God is good..
Please if you see someone that needs help give it. I do not mean give them cash but a scarf for a homeless man, a pair of cheap gloves anything. Just give and ask nothing in return
What can you loose
Sorry I will shut up now

Saila · 13-11-2010 09:26PM

but did you give him YOUR shoes.

Ruu_Old · 13-11-2010 09:28PM

Did god buy you some new shoes?

OutlawPete · 13-11-2010 09:29PM

They hide their shoes, seen 'em do it.

Also, seen some homeless turn down food last week in Temple Bar beside the ATM's in the square, she told them to f-off and they did not look at all surprised and the food looked very good.

Flasks of soup and sandwiches.

Danbo! · 13-11-2010 09:31PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

They hide their shoes, seen 'em do it.

In the boot of their car parked around the corner

Chuchoter · 13-11-2010 09:33PM

The shoes thing is bull****. Pennys sell shoes for (no exageration) 3 euro. If you do not have shoes, its your own fault.

I have also seen people without shoes being handed shoes by a friend to walk home in.

Einhard · 13-11-2010 09:34PM

LOL, so now the beggar has two pairs of shoes!! A good days work for him!

OutlawPete · 13-11-2010 09:36PM

Danbo! wrote: »

In the boot of their car parked around the corner

Wouldn't go that far, but I've seen them hide shows in bags and also seen one guy that is regularly in the lanes of Grafton St, use a fake sling.

There is a guy famous for making himself look like an amputee also, he used to be around Moore St all the time, but think he was moved on so much, he stopped coming back.

In saying all that, I buy food for homeless people the odd time, if they ask me for money going into a shop .. I will just say that I will buy them something if they tell me what they want.

Usual sandwich, bar and coffee.

Giving money bugs me as I know most of them are on drugs.

If someone doesn't look like a junkie or a alco though, I might give a little cash.

starbelgrade · 13-11-2010 09:37PM

milos wrote: »

This was the last of my money but God is good..

The God Delusion at it's finest.

alwaysadub · 13-11-2010 09:40PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

They hide their shoes, seen 'em do it.

Also, seen some homeless turn down food last week in Temple Bar beside the ATM's in the square, she told them to f-off and they did not look at all surprised and the food looked very good.

Flasks of soup and sandwiches.

Seen that with the food myself,bloke in front of me gave a beggar on O Connell Bridge a lovely looking sandwich, which promptly got fcuked into the Liffey.

I'm sure some appriciate food and clothes, but a fair few just want money.
And i'm too broke myself to be giving people money.

chucken1 · 13-11-2010 09:42PM

milos wrote: »

Hi all
Seen something today that deeply saddened my heart. But before that let me tell you a short story.
While growing up in the 70s I witnessed a barefoot young itinerant with her new baby thrown off a CIE (Dublin bus now) because she was an itinerant. It was something that shamed me because I did nothing.
Today I saw a begger being moved along by two young garda in Talbot St, Dublin. He had no shoes.
Thank God I had some cash in my pocket and I was able to buy him a pair. This was the last of my money but God is good..
Please if you see someone that needs help give it. I do not mean give them cash but a scarf for a homeless man, a pair of cheap gloves anything. Just give and ask nothing in return
What can you loose
Sorry I will shut up now

I think thats a lovely thing you did.:)

Mister men · 13-11-2010 09:44PM

Beggers make 10,000 euro a day begging on the streets don't you know. And they eat swans and get free prams also.

stupidusername · 13-11-2010 09:44PM

Being in dublin for the last while, I've seen a lot of beggars, and I've felt sorry for some of them, but I try to figure out if they actually need it. What I've been considering a tell is their facial hair. in fairness just about all of them are freshly shaven. I saw one man that had a full grown beard and looked rough, but he wasn't looking for money, just minding his own business.

Is this a reasonable thing to judge by?

strokemyclover · 13-11-2010 09:49PM

I do help the homeless when I feel they are genuinely homeless. Trying my best not to sound xenophobic here, but I think the only people you can trust to actually be homeless are the Irish although some can just be pissheads unfortunately.

The amount of non-national homeless I have seen being picked up in expensive cars is kinda disgusting tbh.

Fair play OP!

Celly Smunt · 13-11-2010 09:56PM

the best way to judge it is remember which ones are in the pissing rain in the night time,i have my own regular now

Chuchoter · 13-11-2010 10:00PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

the best way to judge it is remember which ones are in the pissing rain in the night time,i have my own regular now

I'm the same, anyone out there at night is real. Bet no-ones ever seen one of the people with kids/roma out at night.

starbelgrade · 13-11-2010 10:04PM

crayolastereo wrote: »

I'm the same, anyone out there at night is real. Bet no-ones ever seen one of the people with kids/roma out at night.

I see them a lot. Selling flowers, things that light up & cowboy hats.

Cat Melodeon · 13-11-2010 10:14PM

Great, another opportunity to slag off those damned homeless, junkie, single-mother, immigrant, homosexual, Muslim, travelling, swan-eating, jobless Roma. Y'know, the ones with the big SUVs and wardrobes full of Manolas who dress in rags and beat their dogs. My village is full of them, feckers.

If you seriously want to help and don't have any money, the Simon Community is always looking for volunteers.

chin_grin · 13-11-2010 10:20PM

I just want to know how this "god" has anything to do with it. I mean you mention him/her/it/Santy/Tooth Fairy/Imaginary Friend twice.

And.....

This was the last of my money but God is good

makes no sense. If god is good, why is there suffering/pedos/Justin Bieber?

<opens can of worms. Sits back and watches the chaos.>

Was a really nice thing you did. But YOU did it.

jaysusake · 13-11-2010 10:27PM

Fair play OP but do you do that for all of the beggars/homeless people ye see? if so you'll end up homeless with no shoes and they'll be giving ye hassle for been on their patch!!

chin_grin · 13-11-2010 10:29PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA

Blackjack · 13-11-2010 10:33PM

milos wrote: »

God is good..

He doesn't appear to have been too good to a genuinely shoeless homeless person.

They exist, but your money would have been better invested by giving to the Simon Community or Focus Ireland.

What you did was very nice, and I don't mean to appear cold, but there are a lot of professional beggars out there, the charities I mentioned are better placed to assist the genuinely needy.

0verblood · 13-11-2010 10:38PM

milos wrote: »

This was the last of my money but God is good..

Why is he good? Is it because there are lots of shoeless hobos on the streets?

PanchoVilla · 13-11-2010 10:42PM

I was homeless for a while when I was younger. I ran away from home because it was a bad situation and I didn't see an alternative. It's really a horrible situation to be in if you have nobody to turn to. I was begging and sleeping in abandoned buildings (squatting). I tried staying at a homeless shelter but they kicked me out when the manager found out I was only 17.

Anyone criticizing the OP for helping someone out, whether they actually needed it or not, should really be ashamed of themselves. Then again, this is AH and being an arsehole is the cool thing to do.

starbelgrade · 13-11-2010 10:51PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Anyone criticizing the OP for helping someone out, whether they actually needed it or not, should really be ashamed of themselves. Then again, this is AH and being an arsehole is the cool thing to do.

Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't automatically make them an arsehole.

storm2811 · 13-11-2010 10:55PM

Who cares about the OPs religious beliefs?
What they did was nice, whether the person was genuinely homeless or not, the OP thought they were in need and tried to help them.

PanchoVilla · 13-11-2010 11:04PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't automatically make them an arsehole.

I never said it did. The OP is basically saying that people should be more willing to help those less fortunate than themselves. I reckon anyone who doesn't agree with that particular opinion is a bit of an arsehole. Same goes for anyone who criticizes a person for being charitable, regardless of why they do it.

lmaopml · 13-11-2010 11:17PM

milos wrote: »

Hi all
Seen something today that deeply saddened my heart. But before that let me tell you a short story.
While growing up in the 70s I witnessed a barefoot young itinerant with her new baby thrown off a CIE (Dublin bus now) because she was an itinerant. It was something that shamed me because I did nothing.
Today I saw a begger being moved along by two young garda in Talbot St, Dublin. He had no shoes.
Thank God I had some cash in my pocket and I was able to buy him a pair. This was the last of my money but God is good..
Please if you see someone that needs help give it. I do not mean give them cash but a scarf for a homeless man, a pair of cheap gloves anything. Just give and ask nothing in return
What can you loose
Sorry I will shut up now

Sorry, I didn't read through the whole thread, but you're right, no matter what jokes whatever - this being AH's and all, there are people who are living out in the open at this moment and not tapping the keys of their laptop, computer or iphone..

However, I remember at 'Easter' a long time ago, seeing a kid on O'Connell bridge literally shivering and begging. I didn't give money, but while I shopped I picked up a few bits and pieces, clothes, food, an Easter egg etc. and on my way back across the bridge trying to be discrete giving it over - being bawled out of it by said 'kid'!

Wow!

Would I do it again - a resounding YES, every single day that I can afford it. You never know...

The child was obviously sent out to get 'money', mine was the wrong kind of currency at the time...no matter, I went home to my cosy home afterward.

Loopy · 13-11-2010 11:23PM

It's a nice thing the op did.

A good friend of mine, who was from a very wealthy well known family locally, ended up on heroin (fool, I know). His family have tried everything including sending him to the states to get treatment to no avail. He is homeless now and no-one has anything to do with him. It's so sad though, that this disgusting heroin drug has ruined his life. He is obviously not strong enough to quit and has lost everything. Last I heard he is injecting his penis as they are the only veins he has left. I meet him from time to time around the city and it breaks my heart to see him.

My point is, not all homeless people are on the make.

lmaopml · 13-11-2010 11:32PM

Loopy wrote: »

It's a nice thing the op did.

A good friend of mine, who was from a very wealthy well known family locally, ended up on heroin (fool, I know). His family have tried everything including sending him to the states to get treatment to no avail. He is homeless now and no-one has anything to do with him. It's so sad though, that this disgusting heroin drug has ruined his life. He is obviously not strong enough to quit and has lost everything. Last I heard he is injecting his penis as they are the only veins he has left. I meet him from time to time around the city and it breaks my heart to see him.

My point is, not all homeless people are on the make.

That's really weird.

SeaFields · 13-11-2010 11:43PM

Ive a friend working with the simon. Most of the people they deal with are drug/drink/mental illness related but she said every now and again she hears a story from somebody who lost a job, marriage breaks up and they end up on the streets very rapidly. She says its rare but does happen.

We see but do we care.

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