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10K for being called a few names!!

  • 11-11-2010 02:35PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,681 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/sister-of-drugmurder-victim-gets-euro10000-bus-rage-payout-2415728.html
    A YOUNG woman whose brother was murdered in a drugs feud in Spain six years ago was awarded €10,000 in damages yesterday, following a row with a bus driver after she had wrongly driven into a bus lane.

    College student Tracey Sugg (22) claimed that bus driver Gerard Hearne called her a "dirty smelly trollop" and a "tramp" after she drove across his path during the rush hour.

    Yesterday, her barrister Conor Kearney told Dublin Circuit Civil Court that Ms Sugg could not have been a worse candidate for road-rage aggression and abuse because of a very difficult upbringing.

    Judge Rory MacCabe heard that her brother, Stephen Sugg, was murdered in Spain in 2004 in connection with a drugs feud and that she had been undergoing treatment for depression prior to the bus incident.

    Ms Sugg, of Church Terrace, Finglas, Dublin, told the court she had wrongly driven in the bus lane at Edgewood Lawns, Dublin, on November 13, 2008.

    She was on her way to college and later, when she was stopped in traffic, the bus driver banged on her window, which she partially wound down.

    Aggression

    According to Ms Sugg, Mr Hearne said: "You are only a blonde bimbo. You are a dirty, smelly trollop and a tramp."

    She said she drove off and he followed her in the bus, flashing his lights and driving up close to her car. Ms Sugg said she felt frightened and intimidated.

    Mr Hearne told the court he would not use such language to anyone. He wanted to speak to her about her driving and asked what had been going on when she had driven across him.

    He said she had endangered her own life and those of his passengers. He added that immediately returned to the vehicle when she told him: "If you don't go away, I'll break your f***ing legs."

    Mr Hearne told the judge he regretted having left his bus and would not do so again. He agreed that driving very close to her car and flashing his lights would have been very intimidating. He denied kicking her car.

    Judge MacCabe said he had seen a video recording of Mr Hearne's driving before and after the incident and believed that he had been annoyed, as he was entitled to be, by the manner of Ms Sugg's driving.

    "We all have to put up with this type of driving but it doesn't excuse his behaviour," Judge MacCabe said. "Mr Hearne should not have got out of his bus to remonstrate with her and his driving and light flashing after the incident could only have been a manifestation of his own anger and an attempt to intimidate her."

    Awarding Ms Sugg €10,000 and costs, he said professional drivers were supposed to behave professionally.

    Mr Hearne's behaviour had exacerbated a previously existing condition from which Ms Sugg was suffering.

    Dublin Bus declined to comment last night.


    This is a ridiculous payout. It justifies her actions and more than likely she is a smug as you like with the result..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    op is a fag

    There you go - thats at least 5k for you there.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Ridiculous payout but the bus driver seems like a ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Note to self: drive in bus lanes


  • Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dude, you're leaving out the driving up her bumper in a huge bus, getting out of the bus to remonstrate with her and leaving his passengers delayed.

    Bit more to it than just name calling.

    Indignant poster is indignant.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Johnathan Gentle Sabotage


    whose brother was murdered in a drugs feud in Spain six years ago
    So fcuking what?
    What has that got to do with any of this?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    listermint wrote: »
    This is a ridiculous payout. It justifies her actions and more than likely she is a smug as you like with the result..

    Stupid post is stupid.

    If doesn't justify her actions at all. She had every right to bring this to court (assuming it's all true).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Bus driver should have floored it and run into her. Then he'd be getting compensation.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Johnathan Gentle Sabotage


    Dude, you're leaving out the driving up her bumper in a huge bus, getting out of the bus to remonstrate with her and leaving his passengers delayed.

    Bit more to it than just name calling.

    Indignant poster is indignant.

    She threatened him

    "she told him: "If you don't go away, I'll break your f***ing legs.""
    ah you edited it out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,220 ✭✭✭maximoose


    bluewolf wrote: »
    So fcuking what?
    What has that got to do with any of this?

    yeah is that just thrown into the article for sympathy or to make us assume shes a scumbag? completely irrelevant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,681 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Im sorry but how can you justify 10k payout. If i had a penny for everytime i was called a name.

    She shouldnt have been in the bus lane and should have bloody well got out off it when he spoke with her.

    And id fair believe she gave as good she got.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Pity he didn't kill her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    bluewolf wrote: »
    She threatened him

    "she told him: "If you don't go away, I'll break your f***ing legs.""
    ah you edited it out

    So if someone calls you a dirty smelly trollop and you tell him to fukk off it's cool for him to tail gate you in a fukking bus? Get up outta that, will ye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭meglome


    listermint wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/sister-of-drugmurder-victim-gets-euro10000-bus-rage-payout-2415728.html

    This is a ridiculous payout. It justifies her actions and more than likely she is a smug as you like with the result..

    Nah she's as Sugg as you like with the result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    strobe wrote: »
    So if someone calls you a dirty smelly trollop and you tell him to fukk off it's cool for him to tail gate you in a fukking bus? Get up outta that, will ye.
    Some dickhead tailgated me for 15 minutes down the N4 this morning. Do I deserve 10 grand?


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Johnathan Gentle Sabotage


    strobe wrote: »
    So if someone calls you a dirty smelly trollop and you tell him to fukk off it's cool for him to tail gate you in a fukking bus? Get up outta that, will ye.

    Poster I quoted said he threatened her
    I clarified
    they appear to have edited

    I don't know where you got the rest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Fair enough, going by the quoted article, the bus driver shouldn't have called her names, but 10k does seem a bit much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭legallyblonde86


    he shouldn't have tail gated her.... someone has already been killed as a result of road rage and even if her brother was into drugs doesn't mean she was.

    Fair play to her. She shouldn't have driven in the bus lane, she said she made a mistake, we all do and I'm sick of being bullied off the road by people with big ego's!!!!

    Sure look at all those A-holes driving on the phone or who don't put seatbelts on their children. People don't take care on the roads anymore, thats why there are so many deaths!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    phasers wrote: »
    Some dickhead tailgated me for 15 minutes down the N4 this morning. Do I deserve 10 grand?

    no, you called him names, therefore you owe him 10k :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Just a matter of clarity.
    Who is actually paying the money? Those found culpable or the state?

    If its the driver or the company, then its a penalty being imposed upon them - not just an award (justified or not) for someone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    he shouldn't have tail gated her.... someone has already been killed as a result of road rage and even if her brother was into drugs doesn't mean she was.

    Fair play to her. She shouldn't have driven in the bus lane, she said she made a mistake, we all do and I'm sick of being bullied off the road by people with big ego's!!!!

    Sure look at all those A-holes driving on the phone or who don't put seatbelts on their children. People don't take care on the roads anymore, thats why there are so many deaths!!!

    Fair play to her for driving in the bus lane?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sure, money will be gone soon anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jimi_t2


    Fair play to her....

    Sure look at all those A-holes driving on the phone or who don't put seatbelts on their children. People don't take care on the roads anymore, thats why there are so many deaths!!!

    She drove into a bus lane, cutting across a bus, at rush hour. Seriously, I find it hard to see how you could possibly justify this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Where does it say the award was for name-calling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Bryan4president


    I'd say Dublin Bus have to pay it, as they declined to comment on the outcome, don't see how she could have sued the state anyway, though i'm sure she tried to find a way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    he shouldn't have tail gated her.... someone has already been killed as a result of road rage and even if her brother was into drugs doesn't mean she was.

    Fair play to her. She shouldn't have driven in the bus lane, she said she made a mistake, we all do and I'm sick of being bullied off the road by people with big ego's!!!!

    Sure look at all those A-holes driving on the phone or who don't put seatbelts on their children. People don't take care on the roads anymore, thats why there are so many deaths!!!

    Ironic username is ironic.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    bluewolf wrote: »
    So fcuking what?
    What has that got to do with any of this?

    pist... forget about the butler.. I recon the bus driver did it

    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Distorted


    *whispers pedanticly* the judge is wrong to award higher damages on the basis of him acting in a professional capacity - a bus driver is not a "professional" in the true sense of the word, and all the case law is based on the duty of care owed by true professionals being subject to a higher standard of care required by years of training and by being governed by a professional body with disciplinary powers. e.g. doctors, lawyers, dentists.

    He may have been driving for a living, but its not a living which requires a difficult degree and ongoing tests of professional competence.

    It doesn't justify an enhanced fine of 10,000E. Appeal! The judge has made an error.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    listermint wrote: »
    Im sorry but how can you justify 10k payout. If i had a penny for everytime i was called a name.

    She shouldnt have been in the bus lane and should have bloody well got out off it when he spoke with her.

    And id fair believe she gave as good she got.

    Shoulda-coulda-woulda-piece-ash!tta.

    Why would you "fair believe" anything? Jumping to assumptions is what you base legal decisions on? How's that law degree working out for you, Matlock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'm a tramp.


    There, I've just won 10 grand.................does this mean I have to cough up 10 grand to pay myself off?

    Anyways, what the hell is the €10,000 for? Her therapist so she can get over this awful ordeal?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    he shouldn't have tail gated her.... someone has already been killed as a result of road rage and even if her brother was into drugs doesn't mean she was.

    Fair play to her. She shouldn't have driven in the bus lane, she said she made a mistake, we all do and I'm sick of being bullied off the road by people with big ego's!!!!

    The irony. The ones with the biggest egos are the ones who think they can do what they do what they like on the road and afterwards claim "it was a mistake"...

    As for tailgating her.... was she still in the Bus Lane? Was it in fact busy traffic?

    Apology should have sufficed. Stupid pay-out.


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