From the geniuses that brought you last weeks riots!

Local-womanizer · 10-11-2010 01:21AM

About the action towards the group sitting down,they were obstructing the road,were asked to move on and failed to do so,therefore the Gardai were well within their rights to take action.Any after a few slaps officers were snatching those they thought as ring leaders,a very selective and non-brutal method of dealing with the situation if you ask me.

And as already pointed out,when you try to breach a line of public order officers who have big sticks,what do you expect to happen?!

Sharkey 10 · 10-11-2010 01:24AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

About the action towards the group sitting down,they were obstructing the road,were asked to move on and failed to do so,therefore the Gardai were well within their rights to take action.Any after a few slaps officers were snatching those they thought as ring leaders,a very selective and non-brutal method of dealing with the situation if you ask me.

And as already pointed out,when you try to breach a line of public order officers who have big sticks,what do you expect to happen?!

I not sure but i think all thy can do about the people sitting down is carry them away

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 01:30AM

Sharkey 10 wrote: »

What does that mean?
ive never seen it before

I think he has been banned from this thread for 10 days, but i'm not sure if that's all. A mod would know. He got it for his personal attack on me.

Terry · 10-11-2010 01:31AM

Sharkey 10 wrote: »

What about the one where the students were sitting and were hit?

Watch all the clips.
The majority of those sitting were the same ones throwing abuse at the Gardaí in the earlier clips.

Here's a tip. Watch something unrelated go out live on the telly. Then watch it again after the edits have been made.
After that, watch the youtube clips which show the Gardaí as the baddies.

Draw your own conclusions after that.

Local-womanizer · 10-11-2010 01:31AM

Sharkey 10 wrote: »

I not sure but i think all thy can do about the people sitting down is carry them away

Well after giving out a few slaps they did just that. And all this was after they were pelted with bottles,signs and any other item to hand.

Seems absurd that many of these people are complaining of Gardai brutality after they so blatantly flout the law.

Good job by the Gardai imo. Once we go down the road of destroying our own towns and cities and attacking our own citizens,be they members of the force or not then the fight is already long lost and we are no better than those thieves in the Dail.

scientific1982 · 10-11-2010 01:33AM

Caliden wrote: »

If the timeline in the video on the previous page is true, then it looks like the 'friendly' protestors were throwing things at the garda and initiated the conflict.
No sympathy from me whatsoever.

They were hardly throwing bricks. A few idiots threw some plastic bottles and about five minutes later you have gardai dragging one poor bastard, who was sitting down, by the hair.

Oranage2 · 10-11-2010 01:36AM

Stekelly wrote: »

So no cuts and keep spending at current levels while borrowing to pay for it from people that know we have to keep borrowing and set the rates?

So lets not complain that Fianna Fail budget cuts are largely because they've bailed out a bank 30billion euro on the back of the tax payers and their children and their children pay for it yet we're still gonna be screwed up the @ss with high interest rate when we want a loan on what effectively is our money?

Lets not protest that our goverment gave FÁS 39million on a graduate programme that got nobody employed ("jobs for the boys")

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfkfojidauid/rss2/

Lets not protest that Fianna Fail failed to secure 500 jobs because their good friends Airlingus didn't like it ("Keep the boys in the jobs")

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/ireland/ryanair-govt-has-failed-to-secure-hangar-6-jobs-449294.html

I could go on with endless stories of Fianna Fail failures, corruption and negligence but I'd be here all night.

Also It's attitutes like yours that when YOU get Fu.cked over by this goverment nobody is going to STAND up for YOU.

WalterMitty · 10-11-2010 01:37AM

Hope they have a protest in donnybrook and the police fight them and we can then say there was a big donnybrook in donnybrook HA HA HA

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 01:40AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Also It's attitutes like yours that when YOU get Fu.cked over by this goverment nobody is going to STAND up for YOU.

Exactly! They're gonna sit down!:D

The Waltzing Consumer · 10-11-2010 01:41AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

So lets not complain that Fianna Fail budget cuts are largely because they've bailed out a bank 30billion euro on the back of the tax payers and their children and their children pay for it yet we're still gonna be screwed up the @ss with high interest rate when we want a loan on what effectively is our money?

Lets not protest that our goverment gave FÁS 39million on a graduate programme that got nobody employed ("jobs for the boys")

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfkfojidauid/rss2/

Lets not protest that Fianna Fail failed to secure 500 jobs because their good friends Airlingus didn't like it ("Keep the boys in the jobs")

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/ireland/ryanair-govt-has-failed-to-secure-hangar-6-jobs-449294.html

I could go on with endless stories of Fianna Fail failures, corruption and negligence but I'd be here all night.

Also It's attitutes like yours that when YOU get Fu.cked over by this goverment nobody is going to STAND up for YOU.

Shock! Thanks for telling me, now I support you muppets attacking Gardai.

Supercell · 10-11-2010 01:42AM

Brendog wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPnoAY1wXfI

Absolutely nothing wrong there from the Gardai, I think they handled it all with a lot of restraint to be honest.
The students need to police themselves better, the idiots causing hassle got a few slaps and to be honest they well deserved it. But why didn't anyone tell them to F off that they were ruining the "peaceful" protest against education cutbacks ?
I listened to the head of the student body talking to "Joe" on RTE and he was crying about the student message getting lost in the violence.
Yet when Joe asked him would they try and restrict future protests he said no ,all are welcome! So if you change nothing..how do you expect change?, future "protests" will be the exact same and it will be a wasted effort.

Next time I hope the Gardai hit harder because it seems these trouble makers are welcomed with open arms to the student protests and the only way they will learn is at the end of a baton to their thick skulls.

scientific1982 · 10-11-2010 01:44AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Well after giving out a few slaps they did just that. And all this was after they were pelted with bottles,signs and any other item to hand.

Seems absurd that many of these people are complaining of Gardai brutality after they so blatantly flout the law.

Good job by the Gardai imo. Once we go down the road of destroying our own towns and cities and attacking our own citizens,be they members of the force or not then the fight is already long lost and we are no better than those thieves in the Dail.

It was hardly a riot. There was a few rowdy people who plastic bottles at guardai who were on ****ing horseback. Dont think that warrants people getting their heads busted.

Oranage2 · 10-11-2010 01:46AM

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

Shock! Thanks for telling me, now I support you muppets attacking Gardai.

Have you got comprehension difficulties? where does it say attack Gardaí, I said we should protest against this goverment -

The Waltzing Consumer · 10-11-2010 01:48AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Have you got comprehension difficulties? where does it say attack Gardaí, I said we should protest against this goverment -

Oh, sorry, I was following your lead by posting unrelated obvious points that everyone knows already. Thought it was a trend, my bad

Local-womanizer · 10-11-2010 01:48AM

scientific1982 wrote: »

It was hardly a riot. There was a few rowdy people who plastic bottles at guardai who were on ****ing horseback. Dont think that warrants people getting their heads busted.

Eh,so the Gardai should stand by and not take action until it becomes a riot?!

Proactive measures is what is needed to stop situations like such from boiling over to something uncontrollable.

And dont forget the DoF building was stormed. It was the protesters who escalated the situation by their actions here,and the Gardai responded.

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 01:48AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Have you got comprehension difficulties? where does it say attack Gardaí, I said we should protest against this goverment -

But we did that last week! :mad:

Terry · 10-11-2010 01:49AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

So lets not complain that Fianna Fail budget cuts are largely because they've bailed out a bank 30billion euro on the back of the tax payers and their children and their children pay for it yet we're still gonna be screwed up the @ss with high interest rate when we want a loan on what effectively is our money?

Lets not protest that our goverment gave FÁS 39million on a graduate programme that got nobody employed ("jobs for the boys")

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfkfojidauid/rss2/

Lets not protest that Fianna Fail failed to secure 500 jobs because their good friends Airlingus didn't like it ("Keep the boys in the jobs")

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/ireland/ryanair-govt-has-failed-to-secure-hangar-6-jobs-449294.html

I could go on with endless stories of Fianna Fail failures, corruption and negligence but I'd be here all night.

Also It's attitutes like yours that when YOU get Fu.cked over by this goverment nobody is going to STAND up for YOU.

A mass protest about all of those things would be great, but giving the Gardaí grief at these protests will not achieve anything.

The government is the enemy. Just remember that.

A few mouthy students getting a slap does not mean that the Gardaí are a fascist organisation. It means that the students were dicks. Clueless dicks at that.

scientific1982 · 10-11-2010 01:54AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Eh,so the Gardai should stand by and not take action until it becomes a riot?!

Proactive measures is what is needed to stop situations like such from boiling over to something uncontrollable.

And dont forget the DoF building was stormed. It was the protesters who escalated the situation by their actions here,and the Gardai responded.

If thats how they react against a bunch of students because of a tiny rowdy minority, I cant wait to see what happens when the real protests start.

Oranage2 · 10-11-2010 01:54AM

Dwaegon wrote: »

But we did that last week! :mad:

And we should keep doing it until anyone of those Fat fu.ckers comes out and say that they have a plan to change things for the better

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 01:56AM

scientific1982 wrote: »

If thats how they react against a bunch of students because of a tiny rowdy minority, I cant wait to see what happens when the real protests start.

I dunno...that one was pretty big! How many people does a 'real protest' need?

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 01:57AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

And we should keep doing it until anyone of those Fat fu.ckers comes out and say that they have a plan to change things for the better

I doubt that will happen. I'd reckon we've peaked in terms of protesting pre-budget.

Local-womanizer · 10-11-2010 01:58AM

scientific1982 wrote: »

If thats how they react against a bunch of students because of a tiny rowdy minority, I cant wait to see what happens when the real protests start.

A very angry collection of people can cause a lot of damage,you deal with them not by their age demographic but by the threat present at the time.

And real protests? As I said in another post,the moment we start destroying our towns a cities and attacking other citizens of the country,well then the battle is lost. Why,because we are no better than those sitting in the Dail robbing us day in day out.

And I would hope,for the sake of this country that the majority of people who will protest do so without the need to fcuk a sign at a horse.

Terry · 10-11-2010 01:59AM

Just to make a point about the editing of those youtube clips, I'm going to post a picture.

scientific1982 · 10-11-2010 01:59AM

Dwaegon wrote: »

I dunno...that one was pretty big! How many people does a 'real protest' need?

Its not so much the number of people as the type of people. When its fully grown men and not scrawny teenagers, it'll be a different story. When said grown men are protesting things like not being able to keep a roof over their families head, tempers may flare.

scientific1982 · 10-11-2010 02:00AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

A very angry collection of people can cause a lot of damage,you deal with them not by their age demographic but by the threat present at the time.

And real protests? As I said in another post,the moment we start destroying our towns a cities and attacking other citizens of the country,well then the battle is lost. Why,because we are no better than those sitting in the Dail robbing us day in day out.

And I would hope,for the sake of this country that the majority of people who will protest do so without the need to fcuk a sign at a horse.

How were they destroying the city.

Local-womanizer · 10-11-2010 02:04AM

scientific1982 wrote: »

How were they destroying the city.

Not destroying it in the same vein a war would but when people run out of bottles and signs to throw they usually turn to anything close at hand,like various loose items you would find around a typical city street.

And then if you take the effects on people who work and live in the city who are unable to move freely as a result of these protests,then that to a certain extent is destroying the place!

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 02:04AM

scientific1982 wrote: »

Its not so much the number of people as the type of people. When its fully grown men and not scrawny teenagers, it'll be a different story. When said grown men are protesting things like not being able to keep a roof over their families head, tempers may flare.

I'm fairly confident that: 1. Most college students are not teenagers, and 2. People over 18 are adults. It wasn't transition year students out on the streets, it was adults who are attending 3rd level education.

You seem to be implying that a protest is only a protest when tempers flare. I believe you may be thinking of a riot.

scientific1982 · 10-11-2010 02:10AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Not destroying it in the same vein a war would but when people run out of bottles and signs to throw they usually turn to anything close at hand,like various loose items you would find around a typical city street.

And then if you take the effects on people who work and live in the city who are unable to move freely as a result of these protests,then that to a certain extent is destroying the place!

So its a matter of guilty till proven innocent. The gardai thought a small minority might start throwing things heavier than a plastic bottle so lets rush in and batter the **** out of them. I dont agree with the idiots throwing bottles either, its counterproductive. However, id say most were there to march peacefully.

Zombienosh · 10-11-2010 02:11AM

Yes! the gardaí were heavy handed.
Yes! the trouble makers in the protest deserve a slap
Yes! more people need to stand up for what they believe in.
Yes! we are going to destroy our own country if we don't stand up against this failed goverment.

Dwaegon · 10-11-2010 02:12AM

scientific1982 wrote: »

So its a matter of guilty till proven innocent. The gardai thought a small minority might start throwing things heavier than a plastic bottle so lets rush in and batter the **** out of them. I dont agree with the idiots throwing bottles either, its counterproductive. However, id say most were there to march peacefully.

then those people should've got out of the way!

From the geniuses that brought you last weeks riots!

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