Independent footage of the student protest.

maxxie · 09-11-2010 02:23AM

2 stroke wrote: »

Riot squad versus students. Something has gone seriously wrong in this country

Clearly government trying to send a message to the wider population not to try it!
Oh no so intimidated :rolleyes:

opinion guy · 09-11-2010 02:28AM

mikom wrote: »

Luke, having drawn upon the power of the Force, releases his proton torpedoes, which immediately sink into the Harneys exhaust port.
Luke, the Falcon and a few other fighters race away from Harneys hole, just as she prepares to fire on the masses.
Only a moment before Harney fires, she explodes into a huge fireball, sending millions of fragments into space.

Meanwhile Biffo the Hut has Han frozen and rammed Lei into a sexy bikini....with sexy results.....

Pwpane · 09-11-2010 03:07AM

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Happens in every country around the world. Cops do it for their own safety just in case there is those in the crowd who want to start trouble. Got to love the fact that the "student" tag implies a peaceful bunch. Trying to tell us that all students are happy go lucky folk that would never cause trouble.

Usual crack with these so called Peaceful marches. Some clowns looking for trouble tag along start riots and then all the peaceful heads then blame the figures of authority for defending themselves. Of course innocent folk will get caught in the crossfire.

Takes two to tango.

You can see that the students are sitting on the road. Obviously in a peaceful protest.

Students have a right to protest. We all have a right to protest.

And we have a right to protest without getting batoned by the people assigned to protect us.

I dont see much of a tango in an armed riot geared man being violent to a seated civilian.

dsmythy · 09-11-2010 03:11AM

Pwpane wrote: »

You can see that the students are sitting on the road. Obviously in a peaceful protest.

Students have a right to protest. We all have a right to protest.

And we have a right to protest without getting batoned by the people assigned to protect us.

I dont see much of a tango in an armed riot geared man being violent to a seated civilian.

But what if i wanna drive on the road?

upandcumming · 09-11-2010 04:32AM

Everyone is giving out out about the footage not being independent, here is one from a phone. You don't get much more independent than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-REt8kCjCRo

There is lots more. Here is one of guards knocking lumps of people sitting on the ground. They pose a serious threat those bastards on the ground.

msg11 · 09-11-2010 05:52AM

4:40 in that video seems a bit well over the top, think you can even hear a crack..

I actually think he is lucky that other Garda came over, because if he didn't I say something would have gone down there.

Same with your women after been well 'left on the ground', another Garda did help her.

Let not also forget, the Garda are also very angry people too ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y-8YMcinkc

So what we have is students out in force, Undesirables mixed in the crowd with them. Add in the Garda out in force, again with a few undesirable Garda angry about pay cuts and you get this.

I don't even know how anyone could/want to protect them absolute gob****es in the dail. They don't deserve protection, they deserve to be dragged out and giving a good beating. The shame they have brought on this country, after the hard work of every member of this country.

From the men who worked so very hard to get freedom, to my grandfather who worked his arse off to buy a house and start a family, to my father and mother who worked hard to buy a house and start a family.

Only to be ripped of by the goverment and the banks. Who injected a good market with steroids for there own personal benefit.

What I really can't believe is people who are elected to the dail , don't even show. Well if they had to fight too get the freedom they might show, I know I would out of respect for the countless people that died to get that seat you have in the dail. As for travel expenses and what ever other expenses. I know in my job, if I don't show up or show up when I feel like it , I would be fired. I don't get travel expenses or anything else, it's my job. I choose to do it, I wasn't forced. Same with these people in the dail.

And to me, well I have a job for the moment. I don't have a house and maybe never will.

The government system needs to change, this party stuff is ****, there all the same. Take the monetary value of it away, bring it down to earth. Basic pay like everyone else, basically what I am saying is separate the men from the boys or in this case the lechers from the hard workers in there, working for the people and nothing else.

Why should I bring a lighter to the tinder and wood to be left out in the cold...

(sorry about spelling and the serious rant)

OutlawPete · 09-11-2010 06:36AM

Not sure about most of the rest of the claims ..

But the Guard here at 2:40 should be charged with assault for pulling one young lad along the ground by the hair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDvjw5GrR88

If that's what some Guards do in broad daylight with cameras around ..

Well, then maybe some of the stories I have heard about Guards, that I dismissed as nonsense, were in fact true.

D.Q · 09-11-2010 09:40AM

mikom wrote: »

If this was Tatooine, every last one of 'em would have been viciously murdered by the Empire's stormtroopers. They should count themselves lucky.

and lets not bring up the alderaan issue.

09-11-2010 09:48AM

Why the hell were riot police called in in the first place?

As much as people hate students, nobody deserves to have the sh1t kicked out of them for no reason by the Gardai and that did happen. However there was the odd ignorant asshole who caused trouble and they should face the full extent of the law and be kicked out of college.

It just goes to show this country when somebody actually protests over something that's ****ed up here and the first thing people say is, "****ing students". Well at least they did get off their holes for something they believed in, instead of the countless threads and posts about the recession and even moreso people calling for protest.

pappyodaniel · 09-11-2010 09:55AM

I hate those videos, here's another example of an edited video featuring a douchebag messing with police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc

senordingdong · 09-11-2010 09:59AM

curlzy wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8VkkC6PP74&feature=player_embedded

This is some footage of the student protest a couple of days ago. I don't think the Gardai paint themselves in a good light, students aren't angels either but the heavy handedness of the police is quite scary with the budget (and likely protests) coming up. What does AH think?

The Gardaí aren't doing too well in FFs hands either, not too long ago they were balloting for industrial action (likely some sort of strike)....maybe they should consider standing alongside the students.

pappyodaniel · 09-11-2010 10:07AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why the hell were riot police called in in the first place?

As much as people hate students, nobody deserves to have the sh1t kicked out of them for no reason by the Gardai and that did happen. However there was the odd ignorant asshole who caused trouble and they should face the full extent of the law and be kicked out of college.

It just goes to show this country when somebody actually protests over something that's ****ed up here and the first thing people say is, "****ing students". Well at least they did get off their holes for something they believed in, instead of the countless threads and posts about the recession and even moreso people calling for protest.

It was the manner of the conduct of the protesting students which pissed people off, not the cause. A friend of mine (a mature student) took a bus up to Dublin filled with other students for the protest and he told me how disgusted he was with his fellow students and by the end of his round-trip he felt ashamed to have been involved with them.

He told me the majority of his 'comrades' were hammered drunk by the time they got to Dublin (late btw because of all the unscheduled piss-stops) and he knew there would be trouble. He described the scene to be like a gang of drunk students after a nightclub trying to gain entry into Abrakebra.

opinion guy · 09-11-2010 10:13AM

pappyodaniel wrote: »

It was the manner of the conduct of the protesting students which pissed people off, not the cause. A friend of mine (a mature student) took a bus up to Dublin filled with other students for the protest and he told me how disgusted he was with his fellow students and by the end of his round-trip he felt ashamed to have been involved with them.

He told me the majority of his 'comrades' were hammered drunk by the time they got to Dublin (late btw because of all the unscheduled piss-stops) and he knew there would be trouble. He described the scene to be like a gang of drunk students after a nightclub trying to gain entry into Abrakebra.

OK people keep saying the students acted badly. What exactly did they do ? I haven't seen any videos of students doing something other than sitting down

pappyodaniel · 09-11-2010 10:18AM

opinion guy wrote: »

OK people keep saying the students acted badly. What exactly did they do ? I haven't seen any videos of students doing something other than sitting down

That's because you weren't there man!

(neither was I) but I for one don't buy into the black&white thing of innocents students/aggressive Guards.

Canis Lupus · 09-11-2010 10:26AM

Since when should we care that students get beat up by gardai?

twinytwo · 09-11-2010 10:34AM

My name is URL wrote: »

The Garda at 3min 50sec in seems like a perfectly reasonable person.. not

Seriously though, they have every right to be heavy handed when the crowd becomes unruly. But the guy mentioned above should be reprimanded

LOL... unruly is throwing petrol bombs, or attacking them with sledge hammers... not sitting on the ground with their hands up? As is usually the case the guys who were throwing stuff were not around to get clobbered.

ch750536 · 09-11-2010 10:34AM

pappyodaniel wrote: »

I hate those videos, here's another example of an edited video featuring a douchebag messing with police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc

You're kidding right.. The whole attitude of that cop was disgusting and completely uncalled for. Sure she was being a pain in the ass but you can't speak to people like that.

'I AM the law'!

Gunsfortoys · 09-11-2010 10:34AM

You will always get good and bad from each side and it did look like some guards were abusing their position of power and students were causing trouble on the other side.

The fact that people would be little them for protesting is a testament as to how seriously you would want to take this forum in their calls for change in government.

ch750536 · 09-11-2010 10:36AM

Weak people in 'scared to speak or act against the system' shocker. Off to bed with your hot water bottles now, mind you don't stub your toes.

twinytwo · 09-11-2010 10:36AM

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

You will always get good and bad from each side and it did look like some guards were abusing their position of power and students were causing trouble on the other side.

The fact that people would be little them for protesting is a testament as to how seriously you would want to take this forum in their calls for change in government.

The funny thing is if a proper riot was organised the cops woudnt be able to handle it

ch750536 · 09-11-2010 10:37AM

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

You will always get good and bad from each side and it did look like some guards were abusing their position of power and students were causing trouble on the other side.

The fact that people would be little them for protesting is a testament as to how seriously you would want to take this forum in their calls for change in government.

You are allowed to cause trouble, its called protest. Did they break the law? If not on what grounds are the actions of the guards justified?

COYW · 09-11-2010 10:37AM

Obaraten wrote: »

I actually feel sorry for the gardai,having to put up with such loutish behavior by certain members of this so called "protest",garda brutality?lol compared to what would happen to these people in France,Spain etc the Gardai in general handled themselves very well and professionally

Totally agree. Those students need to learn that actions have consequences. If you stand there abusing riot police, you have to accept that you are highly likely to get a few good thumps.

twinytwo · 09-11-2010 10:39AM

COYW wrote: »

Totally agree. Those students need to learn that actions have consequences. If you stand there abusing riot police, you have to accept that you are highly likely to get a few good thumps.

Right so trained cops cant take some verbal abuse off students???

Chairman Meow · 09-11-2010 10:42AM

Man id love to be a cop there! Getting to beat the **** out of hippies AND idiots from the socialist wanker! Thats a ****ing good days work

COYW · 09-11-2010 10:43AM

ch750536 wrote: »

You are allowed to cause trouble, its called protest. Did they break the law? If not on what grounds are the actions of the guards justified?

No, you are allowed to have a peaceful protest and the police used zero physical force while the protest was peaceful. You are not allowed to abuse police or throw stuff at them. That is not an acceptable form of protest in a civilised society.

North_West_Art · 09-11-2010 10:44AM

on a normal weekend in Dublin there are between 50 and 100 arrests.... last week during this demonstration there was..........3,...... http://bit.ly/cdfB4V

But our state sponsored media reported 'serious rioting' across Dublin during street protests; so out of 25,000 protesters there was 3 arrests... and this was serious rioting?? If it was anything like Belfast circa 1980, the police would have known all about it...

ch750536 · 09-11-2010 10:45AM

COYW wrote: »

Totally agree. Those students need to learn that actions have consequences. If you stand there abusing riot police, you have to accept that you are highly likely to get a few good thumps.

No you don't. If you want to be treated like **** move to China. You should never get thumped for protesting. The only people who should believe that are those you are protesting against or people who have such little capacity for thought they believe without thinking.

ch750536 · 09-11-2010 10:46AM

COYW wrote: »

No, you are allowed to have a peaceful protest and the police used zero physical force while the protest was peaceful. You are not allowed to abuse police or throw stuff at them. That is not an acceptable form of protest in a civilised society.

I saw lots of peaceful people being whacked with batons. Explain what they did wrong.

09-11-2010 10:52AM

North_West_Art wrote: »

on a normal weekend in Dublin there are between 50 and 100 arrests.... last week during this demonstration there was..........3,...... http://bit.ly/cdfB4V

But our state sponsored media reported 'serious rioting' across Dublin during street protests; so out of 25,000 protesters there was 3 arrests... and this was serious rioting?? If it was anything like Belfast circa 1980, the police would have known all about it...

These are the figures that we need to see. 25,000 with 3 arrests seems like a peaceful protest to me.

TerrorFirmer · 09-11-2010 10:54AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Not sure about most of the rest of the claims ..

But the Guard here at 2:40 should be charged with assault for pulling one young lad along the ground by the hair.

That's his hood, not his hair.

Independent footage of the student protest.

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