We Deserve Everything Coming to Us

Augmerson · 08-11-2010 10:53PM #1

I've spent the past few hours reading news websites, going over the multitude of threads and posts in politics, after hours, the Irish economy and tbh I'm probably not in the best head to be writing this but I have come to the awful conclusion that we deserve the awful end we are about to recieve. Yes, politicans screwed us, developers and bankers rode us.

But ultimately, we let ourselves down. Politicians will do whatever they can get away with, and for a long time now, politicians in Ireland have realised they can get away with almost anything. Democracy is only healthy if it's citizens engage in it, if they care about what happens to their country. I am not saying we have have not cared about the state of the country, on the contrary, plenty of us, and I do mean PLENTY of us care and still do care, but we didn't make our vote and our voice count, and now it is too late. It is far too late. Our economic sovereignty is gone. Soon enough Brussels is going to decide what we should be doing. There's no use denying it, we are completely and utterly ****ed. I'm not man for economic theory, but the writing is on the wall for whoever wants to read it.

Seriously boys and girls, what the **** are we going to do?

Suggestions are greatly appreciated. Am about to book a ticket out of here for next year.

Midnight_EG · 08-11-2010 10:55PM

You're only resigning yourself to this fact now...?

Atlantic Dawn · 08-11-2010 10:58PM

Two thirds of people didn't vote for the current government. The IMF coming in will sort out the public service and vested interests.

phasers · 08-11-2010 10:58PM

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

Augmerson · 08-11-2010 10:59PM

phasers wrote: »

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

I'll send you a postcard. Runied state on the edge of Europe is still the address right?

dambarude · 08-11-2010 11:01PM

Define 'we'.

Most of the population under 25 had little or nothing to do with voting in Fianna Fáil, committing their lives to massive mortgages, and living it up to any great extent.

I'll be leaving college at probably one of the worst times possible, the worst in quite a while, and tbh I don't think that that's my fault.

Saying that I do realise that massive cuts and changes will be made, but I'm not prepared to say I 'deserve' it.

fonecrusher1 · 08-11-2010 11:01PM

Hold on a second its the governments job to avoid or limit financial recession. Not the population. They've failed, its as simple as that. Bring on the post budget unrest.

MistyCheese · 08-11-2010 11:01PM

Woohoo! Coke and hookers for all!

General General · 08-11-2010 11:03PM

Augmerson wrote: »

I've spent the past few hours reading news websites, going over the multitude of threads and posts in politics, after hours, the Irish economy and tbh I'm probably not in the best head to be writing this but I have come to the awful conclusion that we deserve the awful end we are about to recieve. Yes, politicans screwed us, developers and bankers rode us.

But ultimately, we let ourselves down. Politicians will do whatever they can get away with, and for a long time now, politicians in Ireland have realised they can get away with almost anything. Democracy is only healthy if it's citizens engage in it, if they care about what happens to their country. I am not saying we have have not cared about the state of the country, on the contrary, plenty of us, and I do mean PLENTY of us care and still do care, but we didn't make our vote and our voice count, and now it is too late. It is far too late. Our economic sovereignty is gone. Soon enough Brussels is going to decide what we should be doing. There's no use denying it, we are completely and utterly ****ed. I'm not man for economic theory, but the writing is on the wall for whoever wants to read it.

Seriously boys and girls, what the **** are we going to do?

Suggestions are greatly appreciated. Am about to book a ticket out of here for next year.

Plenty either wasn't/isn't enough or that plenty didn't care enough.

Our economic sovereignty got us where we are today.

starbelgrade · 08-11-2010 11:05PM

The OP is right. I'm going to shoot myself in the head now.

PeterIanStaker · 08-11-2010 11:06PM

dambarude wrote: »

Define 'we'.

Most of the population under 25 had little or nothing to do with voting in Fianna Fáil, committing their lives to massive mortgages, and living it up to any great extent.

I'll be leaving college at probably one of the worst times possible in quite a while, and tbh I don't think that that's my fault.

Saying that I do realise that massive cuts and changes will be made, but I'm not prepared to say I 'deserve' it.

Well said. I did the same. Went back to college to get professionally qualified in the hope it would increase my prospects. I never voted for the shower who ran it into the ground. I don't have a mortgage or even a loan.
This collective guilt is a media invention, and we know whose side they're on. I dont deserve it either.

Biggins · 08-11-2010 11:06PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

The OP is right. I'm going to shoot myself in the head now.

Your shooting yourself in the toilet? :eek:

The Waltzing Consumer · 08-11-2010 11:07PM

That Irish Times fellow in the other thread is right, there are a lot of people who sound like the Irish equivilant of the Tea Party.

OP, frankly, f**k off then, we will be fine without you.

That_Guy · 08-11-2010 11:07PM

What are you talking about. We've turned a corner. Cheese for all. We'll be alright. Chin up.

easyeason3 · 08-11-2010 11:07PM

If we continue to let threads like this be posted then yes, we deserve everything coming to us.

montane · 08-11-2010 11:07PM

Funny to see people denying their links with their FF past. Majority of people I know were FF supporters, of course they dont speak of that now.

The FF 2007 election slogan was "But are you happy?". Are you happy now that an EMF representative is in government buildings tonight ? :pac:

Andy-Pandy · 08-11-2010 11:09PM

Great stuff, I deserve dancing girls and good time's. Let's go. But in fairness, people should try get on with there day to day lives a bit more instead of making themselves depressed overthinking everything. Live your life, it is what ya make it.

PeterIanStaker · 08-11-2010 11:09PM

Biggins wrote: »

Your shooting yourself in the toilet? :eek:

Private Pile, you will place that weapon on the deck!!

Misanthrope · 08-11-2010 11:09PM

What exactly did we do to deserve all this free cheese though.That's what I need to know?

fonecrusher1 · 08-11-2010 11:10PM

In all fairness the free cheese does kind of ease my concerns.

Ya can't beat-a-bitta-chedda. Happy days. lol.

That_Guy · 08-11-2010 11:11PM

montane wrote: »

Funny to see people denying their links with their FF past. Majority of people I know were FF supporters, of course they dont speak of that now.

The FF 2007 election slogan was "But are you happy?". Are you happy now that an EMF representative is in government buildings tonight ? :pac:

Oi, don't be tarring us all with that brush. I drew cocks on my ballot paper.

Augmerson · 08-11-2010 11:13PM

dambarude wrote: »

Define 'we'.

Most of the population under 25 had little or nothing to do with voting in Fianna Fáil, committing their lives to massive mortgages, and living it up to any great extent.

I'll be leaving college at probably one of the worst times possible, the worst in quite a while, and tbh I don't think that that's my fault.

Saying that I do realise that massive cuts and changes will be made, but I'm not prepared to say I 'deserve' it.

I was under 25 when the **** started to hit the fan. I never voted Fianna Fail. Never borrowed money and never lived beyond my means. I've had a job since leaving school except for a period of about 6 months which was ****. I do feel for you tbh, it's like this country is in some awful time warp to the 50s again when everybody had to leave.

If the electorate had of stood up more often, things might have been different. Of course, alot of good saying that in hindsight is, but it's the truth.

Rabble Rabble · 08-11-2010 11:14PM

A very catholic position. Guilt and self-blame. Lets slef-flagelate for a few decades.

No, we dont deserve it. i dont and I dont even live there, but if I did live there I would not "deserve" anything. Paid my taxes. Didnt buy property. and so on.

Personally, I blame the OP.Get the tourches. And pitchforks.

Augmerson · 08-11-2010 11:16PM

Rabble Rabble wrote: »

A very catholic position. Guilt and self-blame. Lets slef-flagelate for a few decades.

I'm actually Protestant. But this talk of self-flagellation...it's kinky. Continue *rubs self in oil*

easyeason3 · 08-11-2010 11:19PM

Augmerson wrote: »

I was under 25 when the **** started to hit the fan. I never voted Fianna Fail. Never borrowed money and never lived beyond my means. I've had a job since leaving school except for a period of about 6 months which was ****. I do feel for you tbh, it's like this country is in some awful time warp to the 50s again when everybody had to leave.

If the electorate had of stood up more often, things might have been different. Of course, alot of good saying that in hindsight is, but it's the truth.

So is it a clap on the back you want OP? Plenty of people did those things too. Plenty of people scratched their holes. And plenty of people spent money they didn't have.
So mistakes were made. What do you think you are going to achieve here exactly?
What happened in the past has happened but seriously, get the fcuk over it & move on as best you can. Otherwise you might just go a bit do lally.

EDIT: ''What happened in the past has happened'' sounds like a line from George Bush. I apologise, I'm having a very blonde day today.

Doom · 08-11-2010 11:21PM

I was working with a young apprentice back during the last election, I asked him who he would vote for, he said ff, I asked why?
He said because his family always did.. WTF..I nearly hit him, I ****ed him out of it, and told him to cop on.

That is what's wrong with this country, people like him who are dumb enough to do this cause the family said so.
In a way I'm gald he is getting a hard lesson in life for wasting his vote.

Ronin247 · 08-11-2010 11:22PM

Start our own political party.Enter 4 or 5 candidates in the major cities.Use technology to push hard and get them elected.Control the Dail by having the few votes needed to elect a government.Blackmail whatever party we line up with.

Would it be possible to put 2 or 3 TD's from the Boards party in?? Possibly.If we do not start the revolution now it will never happen.Now is the time because so many people are disillusioned with the current crop of greedy lazy bast*rds.Labour are only doing well in polls because so many die hard FF supporters refuse to vote for FG and so they say they will vote Labour when in truth it is really a protest vote.

Would it be worth throwing a candidate into the Donegal by-election to test the water ???

Biggins for taoiseach!!!!

sesna · 08-11-2010 11:24PM

easyeason3 wrote: »

What happened in the past has happened but seriously, get the fcuk over it & move on as best you can. Otherwise you might just go a bit do lally.

That's what I plan on doing after FF are forever banished. Until then, I'll just laugh at them stewing in their own juice, so that I may not cry.

bnt · 08-11-2010 11:24PM

That_Guy wrote: »

What are you talking about. We've turned a corner. Cheese for all. We'll be alright. Chin up.

Cowen: "Éamon de Valera, in the main foyer at Farmleigh, had a two-ton block of cheese."
Harney: "And a Ryvita the size of Lough Neagh!"

Me? I blew in to Ireland 11 years ago, worked (& paid tax) for 8 years, saw trouble coming by 2007 and decided to go to university. No mortgage, no debts, and if I don't find work here after graduation in 2012, I'll leave as quietly as I arrived. A functioning economy, with employment that pays a living wage, is not too much to ask, is it?

OPENROAD · 08-11-2010 11:27PM

sesna wrote: »

That's what I plan on doing after FF are forever banished. Until then, I'll just laugh at them stewing in their own juice, so that I may not cry.

Wish they were all banished imo

OPENROAD · 08-11-2010 11:28PM

Ronin247 wrote: »

Start our own political party.Enter 4 or 5 candidates in the major cities.Use technology to push hard and get them elected.Control the Dail by having the few votes needed to elect a government.Blackmail whatever party we line up with.

Would it be possible to put 2 or 3 TD's from the Boards party in?? Possibly.If we do not start the revolution now it will never happen.Now is the time because so many people are disillusioned with the current crop of greedy lazy bast*rds.Labour are only doing well in polls because so many die hard FF supporters refuse to vote for FG and so they say they will vote Labour when in truth it is really a protest vote.

Would it be worth throwing a candidate into the Donegal by-election to test the water ???

Biggins for taoiseach!!!!

No,don't think that would be a good idea

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