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Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

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  • #92
    storm2811
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    FFS..this again!
    I would have no problem wearing a poppy and getting brandished as a "brit lover" or a traitor, which was stated earlier, which couldn't be further from the truth.

    I've discussed this before and defending the poppy apparently means you totally reject your history and heritage and love the British unconditionally.:rolleyes:


  • #93
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,321 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Actually, I think you'll find Jon Snow does wear a poppy every year, what he refuses to do is start wearing one two weeks before remembrance day like some sort of fashion symbol.

    That is a million miles from what you have stated,

    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/846022-channel-4-news-presenter-jon-snow-in-new-poppy-fascism-row

    Well ok, I stand corrected. My point remains intact though. When he doesn't wear a poppy he receives abuse from the public as there is an expectation that everyone should be wearing one, which is poppy fascism as he himself calls it.


  • #94
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    what do you mean? do you want to meet up outside for a fight or something?:p
    I am surprised you are not accusing me of wanting to plant a bomb under your car tbh.


  • #95
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Well ok, I stand corrected. My point remains intact though. When he doesn't wear a poppy he receives abuse from the public as there is an expectation that everyone should be wearing one, which is poppy fascism as he himself calls it.

    To be honest, I totally agree with his tweet on the matter.

    90% of this is the Daily Mail though, looking for communists, subversives and muslim terrorists wherever they can.


  • #96
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I am surprised you are not accusing me of wanting to plant a bomb under your car tbh.

    errr, why would i do that?


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  • #97
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Is that the best you can do?
    Its true though.


  • #98
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    getz wrote: »
    i would not be so quick as to make jon snow your hero,he was the one who introduced something on ireland as;leprechaun thinking;
    getz wrote: »
    rides a bike to work because he says he doesent want any more pollution,then leaves his partner of 26 years and two children,to run off to fairyland and marry some bird he met,[hope he catches crabs] ;

    So you've heard of him now, all of a sudden?
    FrattonFred wrote:
    What I don't understand is if they hate the British so much, why those ****wits support a British team? why don't they **** off back to Ireland and take over a club there. ;

    I see the mask is slipping there.


  • #99
    sink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Being a proddy bastard (atheist really), I have worn the Poppy on numerous occasions. I remember them being handed out at my school (in Dublin). There was a plaque on the wall with the names of the student alum who died fighting in WWI, around 40 names were on it. Considering a year only had 50 or so pupils back then it was a hell of a lot. Two of my great grandparents fought in the war and a great uncle died.

    I'll wear the poppy when I choose.


  • #100
    efb
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    Mas maith leat.


  • #101
    davrho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    it has nothing to do with poppy day fascism and you know it, it is the green brigade's anti Britishness being demonstrated.

    I don't like the Green brigade. I don't like how they think they are the voice of the Celtic support. Stupid little boys to be honest.

    The poppy should not be on the Celtic strip next week. John Reid has told us to leave our politics at the front door. Wish he would leave his.

    The banner, although I agree with the sentiment, can only be damaging to the clubs name. Not a lot of thought was put into this by the Green Brigade.

    Sad to see a poster as yourself giving it "the why don't you go home?" lines.


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  • #102
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    baldbear wrote: »
    Personally i'd wear the Nazi symbol for all those brave SS troops who died.

    Godwin invoked on Post 10 this threads doing well............:rolleyes:


  • #103
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    If you dont wear it, youre a subversive hush puppy wearing terrorist who doesnt buy any of the quality daily irish newspapers. yadda yadda yadda . . . .


  • #104
    Kev_ps3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    Dont see why they should. It wasnt our war, and it involved our enemy at the time (some say they still are).


  • #105
    fionnsda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

    answer: no
    do any other nations that fought in the wars wear them....no!
    then why the feck should we!

    here's another reason
    poppy.jpg


  • #106
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    fionnsda wrote: »
    do any other nations that fought in the wars wear them....no!


    You sure about that ?


  • #107
    fionnsda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    Ponster wrote: »
    You sure about that ?

    enlighten me


  • #108
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    fionnsda wrote: »
    enlighten me


    Errr, that's not the way it works. I'm pretty sure that all Commonwealth countries wear them though not sure about India. The USA don't I'm sure but they celebrate their military otherwise.

    I was hoping that you could enlighten me !


  • #109
    LordSutch
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    fionnsda wrote: »
    Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

    answer: no
    do any other nations that fought in the wars wear them....no!
    then why the feck should we!

    here's another reason
    poppy.jpg

    Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

    answer: Yes
    do any other nations that fought in the wars wear them....Yes!
    then why the feck shouldn't we!

    here's another reason (why we should) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVE5d2PLWP0&feature=related

    Tens of thousands of Irish men lying dead in the Poppy fields of flanders!


  • #110
    fionnsda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    fair enough! some commonwealth countries wear them, your right!
    Australia,new Zealand, Canada, what with their british connections,
    i was thinking more in line of europe when i said no other country wears them, i should have said excluding the british wannabe commonwealth countries!


  • #111
    fionnsda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

    answer: Yes
    do any other nations that fought in the wars wear them....Yes!
    then why the feck shouldn't we!

    here's another reason (why we should) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVE5d2PLWP0&feature=related

    Tens of thousands of Irish men lying dead in the Poppy fields of flanders!

    LWP0&feature=related[/URL]

    aye wearing a poppy will help them out all right!


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  • #112
    LordSutch
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    fionnsda wrote: »
    fair enough! some commonwealth countries wear them, your right!
    Australia,new Zealand, Canada, what with their british connections,
    i was thinking more in line of europe when i said no other country wears them, i should have said excluding the british wannabe commonwealth countries!

    Oh yeah, like we have none :rolleyes:


  • #113
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    Ponster wrote: »
    Errr, that's not the way it works. I'm pretty sure that all Commonwealth countries wear them though not sure about India. The USA don't I'm sure but they celebrate their military otherwise.

    I was hoping that you could enlighten me !

    People from British Commonwealth (apparently they've dropped the 'British' while keeping the British queen as head of it. :rolleyes:) countries wear them. It's a partisan, tribal symbol designed to commemorate only those who fought for the British Empire's forces. It's not worn by the French - who wear a blue "poppy" - the Germans, the Russians (who gave more of a sacrifice in WW II than any other country), or the Yanks. Anybody who contends that their red poppy is a symbol of commemoration beyond the British Commonwealth countries is simply engaging in more British nationalist myth-making. It isn't. Fact.


    The notion that the Irish people should be wearing this most nationalistic (and anti-Irish) of British symbols, rather than commemorating Irish dead in their own way as every other European country does, is quite frankly bizarre.


  • #114
    fionnsda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Oh yeah, like we have none :rolleyes:

    yeah you said it:D


  • #115
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    i actually saw green poppies for sale in a spar today thought it was a great idea,if people are still too bitter to wear a piece of plastic to recognise that men fought and died no matter what side of the war or nationality,then at least recognise the Irish that died for the shilling.However,total over reaction,it's a mark of respect to the normal people who died in the bloodiest battles of all civilisation.


  • #116
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    i actually saw green poppies for sale in a spar today thought it was a great idea,if people are still too bitter to wear a piece of plastic to recognise that men fought and died no matter what side of the war or nationality,then at least recognise the Irish that died for the shilling.However,total over reaction,it's a mark of respect to the normal people who died in the bloodiest battles of all civilisation.
    Like in the Irish war of Independence perhaps? Or the BA who died in Dublin in 1916?
    The poppy remembers them just as much.


  • #117
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Oh yeah, like we have none :rolleyes:

    Judging by your vociferousness and zealousness in defending, at every turn, the British Empire and condemning, at every turn, the native Irish forces of resistance to centuries of British colonial occupation, you've clearly got one hell of a strong connection to "them". One wonders why you ever bothered living here if you hate the Irishness of Ireland so much.


  • #118
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    The notion that the Irish people should be wearing this most nationalistic (and anti-Irish) of British symbols, rather than commemorating Irish dead in their own way as every other European country does, is quite frankly bizarre.


    Anti-Irish? :rolleyes: scratches head.

    Do pay attention . . .


  • #119
    aDeener
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    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Says the British guy who spends half his life on an Irish forum defending British imperialism. The irony.

    don't forget his accomplice mike1972, bloody obsessed


  • #120
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

    answer: Yes
    do any other nations that fought in the wars wear them....Yes!
    then why the feck shouldn't we!

    here's another reason (why we should) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVE5d2PLWP0&feature=related

    Tens of thousands of Irish men lying dead in the Poppy fields of flanders!


    so you are saying i should wear it, gtfo :rolleyes:


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  • #121
    strobe
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    I didn't ask anybody to kill any Germans in a field somewhere, pretty sure I would have remembered that. So I don't really see the point in me wearing one. If somebody else wants to wear it I have no problem with that.


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