TD's unanimously vote through pay/allowance increases

Dirty scum each and every member of the Dail!!! They should hang their heads in shame. The true Irish men of honour gave up their lives so these scum can bankrupt us.

I just read the following article and wondered where did it all go wrong.

"A LETTER has been uncovered showing a politician’s concern about his personal use of an election car. Surely some mistake? Well, it was almost 90 years ago; and it did involve Michael Collins.

The letter, written 18 days before his death at Béal na mBláth, records him offering to pay half of the bill for a car hired for canvassing during the June 1922 election because some of the journeys were personal trips.

The letter was written to Skibbereen solicitor Tom Healy who had acted as election agent for Collins and seven other candidates. He hired cars from local firm Johnson and Perrott for canvassing.

However, the Civil War erupted after the pro-treaty victory and Cork was in chaos. The solicitor was concerned about the outstanding bills from the election and wrote to the five Cork candidates who had been elected. Collins received the letter by hand on August 4th and replied the same day. “ . . . I can only say that I think it would not be fair to charge full expenses for the car which I had from Messrs. Johnson Perrot [sic] for about a week to the ELECTION FUND”, he wrote. “Some of the journeys were private journeys, and I would say if the bill were got from Messrs. Johnson Perrot that half of it would be Election expenses and I would pay the other half myself.”

He had the car for about five days.

Despite being commander- in-chief of the National Army in the midst of a Civil War, Collins had the grace to apologise for the oversight in not settling the matter when he was in Cork.

He wrote: “It is to be hoped however, that you will get the matter completed without much further trouble to yourself”.

He signed it Miceál Ó Coileáin, a signature he had probably used since first attending Gaelic League classes in London.

Someone later added “Michael Collins” under the signature, presumably to indicate that “Miceál Ó Coileáin” denoted “Michael Collins”.

The correspondence has been in the possession of Mr Healy’s daughter, Marcie Healy, since he died in October 1957.

It appears that the solicitor had no luck in contacting the other four elected TDs and he later applied for an extension on the invoices.

Collins’s scrupulousness in handling third-party money is commensurate with his earlier employment. He had previously worked in a stockbroking company, a bank and an accountancy firm."

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/1108/1224282866090.html?via=mr

If you have selfish ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders.

Notorious97 wrote: »

I was listening to the news this morning and they mentioned a letter which had come to public attention recently, it concerns a politician who was using a car for state business and some of it included personal trips. The politician became concerned at his private usage of this and in turn offered to pay the government for the private usage of this car, all from his own accord, he wasn’t accused of using it, he simply realised it wasn’t all state business. The politician in question was Michael Collins, 18 days before he was murdered. Thats how bad things have got in this country, any of our leaders who were ever worth something are dead and forgotten. This country is a joke, im ashamed of it unfortunately; they have ruined it and destroyed what those people achieved in the past.

No wonder FF shot him!!

Not only depressing but stupid because even if they had voted against it it would have gone through anyway. But then I suppose they'd be pressured to follow through on it if* they win the election.


*And the most depressing thing about this whole recession for me is that I have to say "if" and not "when" they win the election because I think there is a significant chance that FF will be voted back in by the gobsh!tes in this country. I'm looking into buying a house at the moment but am holding off partly because if FF get voted back in I'd seriously consider leaving this country to wallow in the mess it created for itself.

Magnet wrote: »

Well after the "outrage" over Harney`s paintballing, from all sides of the fence, it`s everyman for himself really cos they`s sure as hell gonna be no uprising..:mad:
The government`s only role is to raise taxes.
Stop paying taxes = No government
Simples

This is possibly the greatest misunderstanding of how taxation and government works I have seen in a while.

Two threads on the same topic :eek:

Don't be so wasteful, don't you know we're in a recession!

What Would John Hume Do?

Sam Vimes wrote: »

The vote was unanimous so it looks me like it'll just be one shower of cheating corrupt cnuts swapping seats with another. This is exactly the type of thing the opposition could pounce on to show how they're different to FF and how they're willing to take the pain with the rest of us so the fact that the vote was unanimous really is depressing.

My thoughts exactly. If any of us were under the illusions that someone somewhere in the Dail still had the good of the country at heart, that illusion is now well and truly shattered. Not one of them questioned why there would be a rise in their allowances, when the rest of the country is facing a very steep drop in social benefits etc.. They are all happy to keep lining their own pockets, which goes to show that if an opposing party were in power tomorrow, they would milk the country dry like their predecessors. A sad thing to say but an intervention from the EU authorities/powers that be is needed now more than ever.

I won't be voting for anyone presently in the Dail. I don't want anyone who voted for this representing me. If it comes to it, I'll spoil my vote.