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TD's unanimously vote through pay/allowance increases

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Wish there was a (non crazy hard, hard left) alternative, but they're all the same.
    There is, but we haven't attended the funerals, kissed babies, fixed potholes, and looked after the parish pump for the last few decades, and so are apparently not worth listening to. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Proof positive that all politicians are scumbags, no exceptions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Are you suggesting we kill the government?
    I suggesting that we need new replacements completely.
    How that should come about I'm open to suggestions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Kinetic^ wrote: »
    LOL.


    Has anyone here recieved a golden handshake when they quit a job?

    I got both a golden hello and a golden handshake from my last job, they're not uncommon in the private sector either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Are you suggesting we kill the government?

    Works in Mexico!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I got both a golden hello and a golden handshake from my last job, they're not uncommon in the private sector either.

    Usually you pay extra for those.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Joshua Jones


    I wonder what Brian Cowen thinks of it all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/divided-dail-unites-to-give-itself-a-pay-rise-2410792.html

    Now normally I'm not one for rabble rousing. However in this case mainly I have to say: RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

    SER-I-OUS-LY
    The cost of salaries for TDs, senators and secretarial assistants will increase, while salaries of staff like those in catering and behind the Dail bar will decrease.
    The estimates for 2011 reveal that there will be an increase in the postal and telecommunications service, which allows TDs and senators to send out promotional literature to their constituents.
    The budget for delegates to 'other parliamentary assemblies' has increased by 50 per cent and the 'grant in aid' for 'inter-parliamentary activities' has also increased by a whopping 40 per cent.
    Even this, however, is dwarfed by the increase in the budget for allowances in respect of former members of the houses of the Oireachtas, which has been increased from €49,000 to €149,000.


    this at the time they are supposedly saving 6billion in a year from things like pensions and health budgets.


    Where's me pitchfork ???:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    That story is so like, earlier on today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Anyone surprised by this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    That story is so like, earlier on today.


    Sure its the same story?

    Maybe they decieded to give themselves another pay rise since the last story came out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Strange to see such consensus on an AH thread. But then we are talking about the biggest shower of cúnts in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    I for one think this is a great idea. I'm going up to Leinster House right now to personally congratulate every last one of them (sharpens pitchfork ominously).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The most amazing/shocking part is:
    ...which has been increased from €49,000 to €149,000.

    Yikes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    This can not possibly be true, surely it's a bad joke?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    Michael Collins, who in my opinion, was far more deserving of expenses than any of the present bunch of incumbants, actually offered to pay for the time his electioneering car was being used for private purposes.
    The present day shower of latchicos wouldn't be fit to lick his boots...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    orourkeda wrote: »


    I wouldn't even give them the title of criminal. Due to their actions hundreds of thousands and on the dole. A system so messed up that people who have paid into it for 40 years will be given the same amount as some scumbag who hasn't done a ordinary days work in his life.

    Before you all jump on the bandwagon and tell me how foolish I'm being, I've seen it.

    I've worked in a dole office, and let me tell you how difficult it is too watch these people come in, rushing to sign and leave because they have to pick their child up from school or visit a sick relative. All the while having to deal with some junkie rocking forward and back, trying to keep his balance, just enough so he can sign and hopefully get that new tracksuit he wanted.

    While these people stand in line praying that they can make a Christmas out of this and some ****ing cheese, TDs give themselves a bonus.

    All we need are some random gun totting tribes running around and we will be no better than the Congo....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭hal9000


    Where are the details of Labours and FGs cost cutting plans? I'd like to see that.

    Its all smoke and daggers with that lot!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Laughtable that a FG alone (but they are by far not the only culprits over all) bring out a document "Reinventing Government" going on about making cuts - yet quietly give themselves this extra dosh!

    Say one thing to the public and do totally another behind the scenes quietly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭steo87


    Biggins wrote: »
    I suggesting that we need new replacements completely.
    How that should come about I'm open to suggestions.

    I am absolutely disgusted by this government...why do we put up with this? They only get away with this because of our "ah sure it's all grand" attitude.

    Biggins, what can we do about this? We need to put our heads together and get something sorted. At the end of the day we're all partly to blame for letting them away with it.

    No longer should we put up with this shít, if we don't do something about it now, then we'll be kicking ourselves.

    C'mon people, ideas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Magnet


    Well after the "outrage" over Harney`s paintballing, from all sides of the fence, it`s everyman for himself really cos they`s sure as hell gonna be no uprising..:mad:
    The government`s only role is to raise taxes.
    Stop paying taxes = No government
    Simples


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Feckers know they can get away with it, and talk bull about their pay being linked to process and procedure... Bull.

    If they want to be leaders, they shouldn't be asked to take a pay cut. They should offer it. And a lot more than what they have.

    I feel helpless though, because there's a sense they'll just get back in and then go at it all again.

    Eejits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    It's the 'unanimously' that's most disturbing. Am I missing something or is there truly no hope? Is this story as reprehensible as it appears?

    I'm really, really angry now and have a feeling I will be a whole lot angrier on Budget Day. Like you say Nijmegen, leadership, leadership by example - where the f*ck is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭steo87


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Feckers know they can get away with it, and talk bull about their pay being linked to process and procedure... Bull.

    If they want to be leaders, they shouldn't be asked to take a pay cut. They should offer it. And a lot more than what they have.

    I feel helpless though, because there's a sense they'll just get back in and then go at it all again.

    Eejits.

    Well thats why we need to think of a solution to the problem. There's no point in us just moaning about it and all the while fully accepting it.

    You're not the only one who feels helpless about it, but think how helpless you, I and millions of others will be if they did get back into office. We need to nip it in the bud now before they keep this behaviour up.

    Can you think of any ideas, whereby we could show them that we're not taking this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    It's the 'unanimously' that's most disturbing. Am I missing something or is there truly no hope? Is this story as reprehensible as it appears?

    I'm really, really angry now and have a feeling I will be a whole lot angrier on Budget Day. Like you say Nijmegen, leadership, leadership by example - where the f*ck is it?

    if someone asked you would you like to take a pay cut to show solidarity with the rest of the country ..... (and then whispered we can pay you under the table)

    would you accept the offer ?

    Not attempting to troll here - but fair play to them !!! - no-one is willing/able to stand up to them, our constitution allows for them to create the laws ....so they change the laws to suit them (and their mates).

    democracy is dead when you cant vote in an honest person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    How are we still taking this ****?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭Setun


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Why would one debt-ridden kip buy another debt-ridden kip? :confused:
    For the lulz, perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭steo87


    It's the 'unanimously' that's most disturbing. Am I missing something or is there truly no hope? Is this story as reprehensible as it appears?

    I'm really, really angry now and have a feeling I will be a whole lot angrier on Budget Day. Like you say Nijmegen, leadership, leadership by example - where the f*ck is it?

    The thing about politicians, all politicians, is that they couldn't give two ****s about the little people. They are all in it for themselves.

    I used to think "ah no, there has to be some decent ones out there who think and act just like us", but there really isn't.

    During the summer I was trying to get help with funding for a Masters that I am currently doing. Dublin City Council couldn't help so I decided to email Senators, TDs and every other Govt. representative for info. on grants etc.

    Anyone that got back to me said along the lines of "oh please pass on your address and we will look into it" - the only reason they wanted the address was so that they could pass it onto someone else in that constituency! Passing the buck and the responsibility so as not to 'inconvenience' themselves.

    And politics seems to be an almost 'family-run business', what with generation after generation getting into it for self-gain.

    I am thankful that I no longer live in Ireland, and I think it's shameful that I feel this way because of these shower of good-for-nothing bastards in Government. When I return next year, I shudder at the thought of what awaits me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    if someone asked you would you like to take a pay cut to show solidarity with the rest of the country ..... (and then whispered we can pay you under the table)

    would you accept the offer ?

    Not attempting to troll here - but fair play to them !!! - no-one is willing/able to stand up to them, our constitution allows for them to create the laws ....so they change the laws to suit them (and their mates).

    democracy is dead when you cant vote in an honest person.

    No I wouldn't, and I mean that - No No No.


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