Girl (10) gives birth in Spain

enviro · 02-11-2010 06:31PM

Thats terrible, I wonder is she ok?

kiad · 02-11-2010 06:31PM

Just Contribute wrote: »

How can a ten year old even have a child? :eek:

Well....when a boy and a girl love each other very much they do this "special hug" that results in both making weird animal noises. Then when they're both finished the boy will cry and the girl will steal his wallet.

Didn't they teach you anything in school?

gbee · 02-11-2010 06:31PM

And common in their own country? :eek:

My name is URL · 02-11-2010 06:32PM

Princess Peach wrote: »

I really hope it was a c-section. Cause thats just not right

I would have thought that the conceiving of the child is what's not right.. don't think how it's delivered is important really

This happens more often than you'd think. I remember hearing about a 9 yo in Thailand giving birth a few years ago

PanchoVilla · 02-11-2010 06:32PM

Morlar wrote: »

I was wondering about that too - why should people not be curious about that ?

Are you afraid it would reflect poorly on the roma if it is ?

No, I think people are just looking for even more reasons to bash Roma people. It seems to be the thing to do on these forums and it's getting tedious. Actually, the minority bashing in general is starting to wear thin. This is public forum, it's not a haven for racism and bigotry. Stormfront and the EDL forums are --->.

bazmaiden · 02-11-2010 06:32PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

What the hell? I didn't know what my willy did until just 2 days ago :eek:

must have been a hell of a piss

scientific1982 · 02-11-2010 06:36PM

FrostyJack wrote: »

I don't know why this is so shocking, it's simple nature, I'd be more concerned how she got pregnant.....

Something about eggs and tadpoles.

Princess Peach · 02-11-2010 06:38PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I would have thought that the conceiving of the child is what's not right.. don't think how it's delivered is important really

A ten year old is going to break their pelvis giving birth!

Morlar · 02-11-2010 06:39PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

No, I think people are just looking for even more reasons to bash Roma people. It seems to be the thing to do on these forums and it's getting tedious. Actually, the minority bashing in general is starting to wear thin. This is public forum, it's not a haven for racism and bigotry. Stormfront and the EDL forums are --->.

& PC Police should go
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that a way.

People are allowed to discuss things like this without needing to justify it to people like yourself or censor their discussion on your behalf.

Also as an FYI the obligatory 'stormfront racist /bigotry /minority bashing' reference is a typical PC over-reaction in my opinion.

Marcus.Aurelius · 02-11-2010 06:44PM

Princess Peach wrote: »

A ten year old is going to break their pelvis giving birth!

There are cases of precocious puberty which can often allow such births to take place, quite naturally, unless they are quite small, which is often the case.

My name is URL · 02-11-2010 06:59PM

Could a baby grow to what is considered a normal size given the fact that the mother is still in the early stages of development? I would have thought that it was impossible for an unborn child to outgrow its mother, so to speak

Mrmoe · 02-11-2010 07:03PM

Princess Peach wrote: »

A ten year old is going to break their pelvis giving birth!

I would wonder what would have happned a similar aged girl back hundreds of years ago before CS and any other surgical intervention. I presume both the mother and baby would have dies during child birth.

fontanalis · 02-11-2010 07:05PM

Mrmoe wrote: »

I would wonder what would have happned a similar aged girl back hundreds of years ago before CS and any other surgical intervention. I presume both the mother and baby would have dies during child birth.

Never mind ten year olds, some child births can take a lot out of and damage older women.

Chinasea · 02-11-2010 07:07PM

Was she Irish?

Ickle Magoo · 02-11-2010 07:09PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Could a baby grow to what is considered a normal size given the fact that the mother is still in the early stages of development? I would have thought that it was impossible for an unborn child to outgrow its mother, so to speak

The child of Lina Medina, the youngest mother on record was a reported 6lb odd at birth which although small, isn't too far off a normal birth weight...she required a section despite a widened pelvis as she was so small.

Other cases here; be prepared to be disturbed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

OutlawPete · 02-11-2010 07:14PM

Is the average age of first pregnancy younger in Spain than elsewhere in Europe?

Just wondering as their age of consent is 13.

PanchoVilla · 02-11-2010 07:16PM

Morlar wrote: »

& PC Police should go
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that a way.

People are allowed to discuss things like this without needing to justify it to people like yourself or censor their discussion on your behalf.

Also as an FYI the obligatory 'stormfront racist /bigotry /minority bashing' reference is a typical PC over-reaction in my opinion.

This thread is a discussion about a 10-year old girl having a child, race or ethnicity have absolutely nothing to do with it. There are stories similar to this from many different races or ethnic groups. If you wanna have a discussion on ethnic traditions of the Roma you should probably start a new thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

The After Hours Troll · 02-11-2010 07:19PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

This thread is a discussion about a 10-year old girl having a child, race or ethnicity have absolutely nothing to do with it. There are stories similar to this from many different races or ethnic groups. If you wanna have a discussion on ethnic traditions of the Roma you should probably start a new thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

But it does when the kids mother said it was common in her culture.

Certainly not common in most cultures. Therefore people are curious.

Morlar · 02-11-2010 07:20PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

This thread is a discussion about a 10-year old girl having a child, race or ethnicity have absolutely nothing to do with it.

You don't get to impose limits on this discussion. This discussion has not centred around the alleged ethnicity of the mother - it was simply mentioned. Curiosity about that aspect of this story and it's context is perfectly legitimate and perfectly within the limits of a normal conversation.

PanchoVilla wrote: »

If you wanna have a discussion on ethnic traditions of the Roma you should probably start a new thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

No. Why would I ?

I will say it again in case you misread it :

People are allowed to discuss things like this without needing to justify it to people like yourself or censor their discussion on your behalf.

PanchoVilla · 02-11-2010 07:20PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Is the average age of first pregnancy younger in Spain than elsewhere in Europe?

Just wondering as their age of consent is 13.

Spain is actually way down on the list. This is only for 15-19 year olds from 2002 but it's probably the same for under 15s.

http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator.cfm?IndicatorID=127

HarryPotter41 · 02-11-2010 07:21PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

No, I think people are just looking for even more reasons to bash Roma people. It seems to be the thing to do on these forums and it's getting tedious. Actually, the minority bashing in general is starting to wear thin. This is public forum, it's not a haven for racism and bigotry. Stormfront and the EDL forums are --->.

With the greatest respect in the world, and I am most definitely not a rascist of any kind, but the Roma in this country bring the bashing upon themselves for a variety of reasons.

Kooli · 02-11-2010 07:21PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

This thread is a discussion about a 10-year old girl having a child, race or ethnicity have absolutely nothing to do with it. There are stories similar to this from many different races or ethnic groups. If you wanna have a discussion on ethnic traditions of the Roma you should probably start a new thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

I don't see the problem with discussing the potential ethnic/cultural components of the story if they're relevant? I don't think we actually know if the girl was Roma or not, but if she is I don't think it should be something we're not allowed talk about?

The fact is that different cultures have different practices/values/traditions when it comes to sexuality, marriage, procreation, childbirth etc. So seeing as this story is relevant to all those issues, the culture of the parents is also relevant.

HarryPotter41 · 02-11-2010 07:24PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Spain is actually way down on the list. This is only for 15-19 year olds from 2002 but it's probably the same for under 15s.

http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator.cfm?IndicatorID=127

Or possibly have had them by 15 and ain't going through that again!!:D

policarp · 02-11-2010 07:24PM

fontanalis wrote: »

it seems girls may be hitting puberty earlier.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/aug/09/us-study-early-onset-puberty-girls

I would have thought that because humans are living longer nowadays, puberty would occur later rather than earlier.

PeterIanStaker · 02-11-2010 07:25PM

This is just all kinds of wrong.

Rasmus · 02-11-2010 07:27PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

This thread is a discussion about a 10-year old girl having a child, race or ethnicity have absolutely nothing to do with it. There are stories similar to this from many different races or ethnic groups. If you wanna have a discussion on ethnic traditions of the Roma you should probably start a new thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Actually I'd have to disagree with you there. This thread is about a ten year girl giving birth in SPAIN. Do you really think it would hit the IT headlines and spur a thread about it on boards, if a ten year girl in India, for example, had a baby?

fontanalis · 02-11-2010 07:27PM

policarp wrote: »

I would have thought that because humans are living longer nowadays, puberty would occur later rather than earlier.

I read somewhere else that more exposure to chemicals is causing it to happen earlier. I'll try to find the link.
It's somthing that's being considered.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2009341,00.html

PanchoVilla · 02-11-2010 07:29PM

Kooli wrote: »

I don't see the problem with discussing the potential ethnic/cultural components of the story if they're relevant? I don't think we actually know if the girl was Roma or not, but if she is I don't think it should be something we're not allowed talk about?

The fact is that different cultures have different practices/values/traditions when it comes to sexuality, marriage, procreation, childbirth etc. So seeing as this story is relevant to all those issues, the culture of the parents is also relevant.

I don't have a problem if people wanna discuss culture, but jumping to conclusions about the girl's ethnicity isn't adding anything to the discussion. She's a young girl from Romania, oh she must be a Roma. That's a bit ridiculous to be honest. According to this, Romania has a lower incidence of teenage pregnancy than the U.S. If it was a cultural thing, I'm sure the number would be much higher.

fontanalis · 02-11-2010 07:30PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

I don't have a problem if people wanna discuss culture, but jumping to conclusions about the girl's ethnicity isn't adding anything to the discussion. She's a young girl from Romania, oh she must be a Roma. That's a bit ridiculous to be honest. According to this, Romania has a lower incidence of teenage pregnancy than the U.S. If it was a cultural thing, I'm sure the number would be much higher.

In fairness Romanians and The Roma are two different cultures.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/09/gypsies-on-a-genetic-island/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/09/one-the-varieties-of-roma/

Cat Melodeon · 02-11-2010 07:37PM

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

With the greatest respect in the world, and I am most definitely not a rascist of any kind, but the Roma in this country bring the bashing upon themselves for a variety of reasons.

How can you say you're not racist and then lump all people belonging to a particular minority together without distinguishing between any of them? Prejudging an entire group of people does pretty closely match most definitions of racism.

Girl (10) gives birth in Spain

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