Illuminati symbolism in the Music Industry

KylieWyley · 01-11-2010 01:37AM

Muse are mad into their 'grand new world order' sort of conspiracy stuff.

nehpets5555 · 01-11-2010 01:38AM

Also. came across this too, what struck me most was near the end with Taylor Swift/Beyonce and what they describe as part of her 'initiation' at the MTV awards, when they hug and 'Rdfo Il 40 pro del ato' appears on the screen (at around 5:27 you see it ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgk0yJ676WQ&feature=related . its interesting.

joebucks · 01-11-2010 01:46AM

Pearl Jam Inlay 'No Code'

Soft Cell

Ultravox

Earth Wind and Fire

13th Floor Elevators

Alan parsons project

Torakx · 01-11-2010 02:39AM

Funny i actually bought that no code album with thatcover and didnt notice those eyes.Back then i had no clue about all this stuff.
Its interesting to see it now.

The Jay-z "put your diamonds in the sky" routine sounds to me like he is getting kicks out of fooling kids into doing and getting used to doing the pyramid symbol without them realising.

To Gizmo. There is always a choice to be afraid and worry or to live your life as best you can with as much enjoyment as you choose.
When i said wish, i ment to imply it is a choice to fear or not.
I chose not to fear but it does not mean the things i do not fear do not exist.
I dont fully know what the "plan" is anyway.I just sense from the stuff i cannot deny that something sinister is happening and its closing in over the next 20 years.Possibly less.But again that is a guesstimate.We could i supppose see how long communism was tested in the soviet and democracy in the states to try get a rough idea of when the next paradigm is coming but i doubt it is that simple at all.
I do think though that there is definetly social engineering involved.

tippboi · 01-11-2010 03:31AM

Sink The Banana wrote: »

I have to agree with you ,it is what it is and to think that it's all innocent is laughable.It's all obviously linked together through movies and music.What bothers me though is that my 5 year old daughter was making that pyramid shape that jay-z is making because she saw it on the music channels.I was not impressed to say the least

Its a triangle shape. Its a very common shape. think people read into things like this 2 much.

Brown Bomber · 01-11-2010 11:08AM

If this wouldn't **** with a confused teenagers mind I don't know what would.

The look coincides with Beiber’s recent endorsement of a collection of nail polishes inspired by his hit songs.

The range is called One Less Lonely Girl, and Bieber personally designed six of the polishes.

“One Less Lonely Glitter” is a glittery purple polish; “Prized Possession Purple”" is a grape-coloured polish and “Give Me The First Dance” is a silver polish.

“Me+Blue” is a dark blue color; “OMB!” is bright red and “Step 2 the Beat of My Heart,” is purple heart-shaped glitter.

The polishes will go on sale exclusively at Wal-Mart for Christmas.

Bieber is also working on his own fragrance line, typically the domain of female pop stars.

http://www.theimproper.com/14069/justin-bieber-in-lipstick-makeup-eyeliner-wtf-see-photo

Here in Sweden the youth are much more Amereicanised/MTV'd than Ireland. Teen suicide rates are much higher, they seem much more depressed overall and without any kind of direction or personal identity. I think that is the goal - confused, sex-driven, self-loathing, depressed, non-political, non-religious, dumbed down, afraid consumers. Easy to control that way. Easier still when you go to the doctor and he gives you some magic pills for a made up disease.

Everyone go back to bed your government is in control.

Yitzhak Rabin · 01-11-2010 11:20AM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Here in Sweden the youth are much more Amereicanised/MTV'd than Ireland. Teen suicide rates are much higher, they seem much more depressed overall and without any kind of direction or personal identity.

Thats not true.

http://web4health.info/en/answers/bipolar-suicide-statistics :

"In Europe statistics are collected from 33 countries. The latest avaliable data for the group 15-24 years of age, shows that the Russian federation is at the top of the list (32/100,000), followed by Lithuania, Finland, Latvia and Slovenia. Sweden (which can be compared with the U. S.) is, according to this list, in 18th place (with less than 10/100,000). In the bottom of the list are Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, Italy and last Greece (3/100,000)."

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0910/suicide.html :
"The annual report of the National Office for Suicide Prevention shows that Ireland has the fifth highest rate of youth suicide in Europe."

Brown Bomber · 01-11-2010 11:35AM

yekahs wrote: »

Thats not true.

http://web4health.info/en/answers/bipolar-suicide-statistics :

"In Europe statistics are collected from 33 countries. The latest avaliable data for the group 15-24 years of age, shows that the Russian federation is at the top of the list (32/100,000), followed by Lithuania, Finland, Latvia and Slovenia. Sweden (which can be compared with the U. S.) is, according to this list, in 18th place (with less than 10/100,000). In the bottom of the list are Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, Italy and last Greece (3/100,000)."

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0910/suicide.html :
"The annual report of the National Office for Suicide Prevention shows that Ireland has the fifth highest rate of youth suicide in Europe."

Well I was talking about my own town from my own observations, not idea of national figures.

joebucks · 01-11-2010 01:13PM

Slightly off topic as it is to do with the film industry as opposed to music industry but check out the final ccene from Hal Ashby's masterpiece Being There. The conversation of the men carrying the coffin at 0.57 is interesting- Could easily be applied to Obomber/ Reagan/Palin/O'Donnell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bow1ZJTV4L4

Hal Ashby's film-making career had been prolific up until this movie and after it he went off the rails, became an alcoholic and didn't make another decent movie.
It was also Peter Sellers last big movie. Sellers was a Freemason.

gizmo · 01-11-2010 02:17PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

If this wouldn't **** with a confused teenagers mind I don't know what would.

His fans don't seem too pleased to be honest, especially since it's clearly digitally altered.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Here in Sweden the youth are much more Amereicanised/MTV'd than Ireland.

Odd given that MTV seem to be getting more politicised in recent times, especially in the context of apathy amongst younger voters and the reasons behind it. Personally I'd just prefer if they went back to playing music.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I think that is the goal -confused

Sexually? I think it's great for the younger generations to be able to see people on TV who are comfortable with their sexuality. Of course, ads like the Bieber one don't help but the fan reaction alone should put a stop to that kind of rubbish

Brown Bomber wrote: »

sex-driven

While I'm obviously opposed to the over sexualisation of much younger kids, people are capable of doing this without MTV

Brown Bomber wrote: »

self-loathing

The opposition to the new emo look popularised by bands such as My Chemical Romance show that kids are more than capable of deciding what they adopt

Brown Bomber wrote: »

depressed

Not really sure where this is coming from, perhaps the physical appearance of stars? Again you'll find that MTV aren't the only culprits here with both TV, movies and more importantly the fashion industry, championing unhealthy weights amongst people

Brown Bomber wrote: »

non-religious

Good for them, more of this please.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

dumbed down

So watch something else?

Brown Bomber wrote: »

afraid consumers

No idea where this is coming from at all really.

r3nu4l · 01-11-2010 06:22PM

The music industry has always been reliant on symbolism to add an element of 'mystique'.

Prog-rock used loads of imagery from mythology - unicorns, fairy's, wizards etc.
Heavy Metal (particularly New Wave of British Heavy Metal) used the occult and/or satanism.

Kids adopted these satanistic badges, crests, symbols because that's what kids do. It's the same with this illuminati/nwo stuff imo. It's just something trendy.

Torakx · 01-11-2010 08:04PM

Maybe its part of many plans.
The Bieber picture was a little disturbing.Justin is still a boys name right?
The fact his fans may have been outraged has no bearing on this i think.If they had not been outraged and just accepted it, would it have then been ok? i think yes and im sure some people here would have stood by that too just for this reason!Or maybe just to be on the opposing side to posters here

I wouldnt say i was homophobic(i can happily let people do their own thing as long as they have a fair choice unaided by media/abuse) crossing genders sounds like a great way to aid global depopulation and might explain the metrosexuals walking around nowadays.Guys slowly losing their masculinity in favour of this idea that its cool to be gay/metro/crossgendered.Im still laughing about the manbag.
Its not cool to be old fashioned anymore and to be this way is to get left behind as the rest of the globe "evolves".Im not sure this is evolution as appose to devolution but we shall see how long the trend lasts and the results in 50 years time.What if there is a global catastrophy in 100 years and 1 million homosexuals left on the planet,good luck to ye's!
If i was alive 50 years ago there may have been slightly less women available because of lower population for example but then again maybe i would have more choice because 1/4(guess!) of them werent bi-sexual,then add all the lesbians and my chances are lower again..then add my crazy conspiracy theories and the numbers go through the roof

The sad thing is this whole post only covers the tiniest part of what is bombarding kids today in the media.I havent watched tv in about 2 years and i noticed changes in myself since.It could be other things too but the fact i choose all my viewing media(and being aware of the subliminals mostly) instead of being told and bombarded i really think it does influence people.Sometimes people try to chat with me about a particular advert on tv or a celebrity and i havent a clue what they are on about! what has this got to do with anything i keep wondering.
It creates a massive seperation between people like myself and those who watch lots of TV regularly.I wish to talk about fact,theories,philosophy,psychology a sport or book or sometimes a movie.
They want to talk about some kid that got on xfactor and has a new single etc.Or that funny ad on tv with a cat or dog or something.

Brown Bomber · 01-11-2010 08:24PM

Torackx I'd have to agree with you. I don't want to keep harping on about living in another culture but it offers you a fresh perspective on conformity. There are so many things here that are "popular" that I have absolutely no interest in and they mean absolutely zero to me but people who have been here all their lives have been conditioned to worship and so do - always shallow unimportant ****: celebrities, tv shows, music, clothing labels that kind of stuff. We are bombarded with commercials here but for most of my time here I've been oblivious to them through the language barrier. Equally things that were important to me in Ireland are less so now as I am not bombarded with the message that they are important.

WakeUp · 01-11-2010 09:58PM

There is a war for want of better words going on in the music industry among other things between evil corrupt souless "artists" and the opposite. The majority of "artists" we would know as main stream are on the dark side I reckon. There are many artists however on the right side the good side but because the music industry is so saturated with corrupt illuminati bull sh1t , their message is lost or doesnt get out at all. Fck the NWO and Fck the illuminati/masons with their satanic symbolism, they are all going to burn in hell and I hope its extra hot & miserable when they do eventually arrive down there. Some artists who are fighting back..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1T8xgHdMEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whZa-j99b1c

Torakx · 01-11-2010 11:12PM

Just be careful the groups leading people into marches may be leading people to the same end by a different path.Im super wary of this maybe to a point where i have a hard time joining ANY group that has any ambitions,i see them all ready to be circumvented.
But i do love to see artists shouting out against the stuff that is obvious and needs to be put out there more.
Is there any pubs or clubs in dublin that host artists like this who sing about the stuff we regularly talk about here?

My name is URL · 01-11-2010 11:22PM

Torakx wrote: »

Just be careful the groups leading people into marches may be leading people to the same end by a different path.Im super wary of this maybe to a point where i have a hard time joining ANY group that has any ambitions,i see them all ready to be circumvented.
But i do love to see artists shouting out against the stuff that is obvious and needs to be put out there more.
Is there any pubs or clubs in dublin that host artists like this who sing about the stuff we regularly talk about here?

Could the artists who are more vocal about it be in some way equally or more responsible for its popularity? I mean, if someone is including a symbol in their act which most people are unlikely to read into, and then the people who are outspoken against it rally support to fight it.. is it not really just a false war of mind and soul which is being created and perpetuated by the labels? I'd love to see a list of which labels use the imagery 'subversively' as opposed to labels which promote artists against it.

Maybe it's more productive to separate tastes, ideals and music preferences with the view to targeting a single demographic in a less obscure and more personally identifiable fashion.

gizmo · 01-11-2010 11:38PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Could the artists who are more vocal about it be in some way equally or more responsible for its popularity? I mean, if someone is including a symbol in their act which most people are unlikely to read into, and then the people who are outspoken against it rally support to fight it.. is it not really just a false war of mind and soul which is being created and perpetuated by the labels? I'd love to see a list of which labels use the imagery 'subversively' as opposed to labels which promote artists against it.

Maybe it's more productive to separate tastes, ideals and music preferences with the view to targeting a single demographic in a less obscure and more personally identifiable fashion.

Well again you're coming at it from the perspective of someone who possibly thinks there is some malevolent force behind those symbols. The people using them could simply think they look cool or find the history behind them interesting.

joebucks · 01-11-2010 11:54PM

WakeUp wrote: »

There is a war for want of better words going on in the music industry among other things between evil corrupt souless "artists" and the opposite. The majority of "artists" we would know as main stream are on the dark side I reckon. There are many artists however on the right side the good side but because the music industry is so saturated with corrupt illuminati bull sh1t , their message is lost or doesnt get out at all. Fck the NWO and Fck the illuminati/masons with their satanic symbolism, they are all going to burn in hell and I hope its extra hot & miserable when they do eventually arrive down there. Some artists who are fighting back..

good vids..Lowkey is pretty good also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU

Torakx · 02-11-2010 03:25AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Could the artists who are more vocal about it be in some way equally or more responsible for its popularity? I mean, if someone is including a symbol in their act which most people are unlikely to read into, and then the people who are outspoken against it rally support to fight it.. is it not really just a false war of mind and soul which is being created and perpetuated by the labels? I'd love to see a list of which labels use the imagery 'subversively' as opposed to labels which promote artists against it.

Maybe it's more productive to separate tastes, ideals and music preferences with the view to targeting a single demographic in a less obscure and more personally identifiable fashion.

Good point.This is exactly why i wont join any groups with a cause.
I for myself would enjoy listening to some music that counters the stuff on the mainstream but also accept there is a symbolic war of the minds going on in this case.
You have the new age movement headed by a good few popular figures who could or not be honest in their agenda.And then you have the polar opposite the "bad guys".
What i consider many a time is that the "bad guys" are running both sides and playing both for fools.
The reality could be anything including a third and fourth side or just no side and a whole mess.
All i know is im not picking a side because i enjoy the view from standing on the fence.
But i know there is definetly mind control going on at many levels.The agenda i just dont know.
The best i can do is enjoy what i wish from the world,be constantly self aware and aware of my enviornment and educate myself to enjoy the ride wherever its going.
So i might listen to the odd "bad guys" songs and i might listen to "new age" songs but i will be stubborn with my views which i hope are more or less close to reality.
When i see a movie insinuating something that i feel is subliminal the fact i see it i hope prevents it from being buried with the other 80% of my unconscious mind.I guess stuff is still going to get in but i do have a firm grip on reality these days.Alot more than the average person im sure.
In many ways i could be alot more skeptical than our forums stereo typical skeptic.As i do not hold to either side with many things now.I like this fence im sitting on.I can contemplate theories and entertain them but not have to fully commit to the idea.Just another paradigm i can wait to see if its true.

but yes i can imagine a future kind of like red versus blue instead of left versus right or label versus label etc etc all good forms of control to seperate and conquer.

joebucks · 02-11-2010 12:41PM

Check out the subliminal in this at 0.42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-XootGE04

CiaranMT · 02-11-2010 06:33PM

Daft Punk are the ringleaders.. :pac:

Hell, if this nutty thing all turns out to be true, I'd have no issue with them being in charge. One of the best live acts I've ever seen.

iPlop · 02-11-2010 06:58PM

Heres loads more at dance valley 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usm3oaIelog

It seems to be everywhere.

gizmo · 03-11-2010 12:03AM

Don't forget Powerslave by Iron Maiden!

My name is URL · 03-11-2010 01:59AM

gizmo wrote: »

Well again you're coming at it from the perspective of someone who possibly thinks there is some malevolent force behind those symbols. The people using them could simply think they look cool or find the history behind them interesting.

I was just throwing the idea out there, wasn't really coming at it from any perspective tbh. I do think, that with the sheer amount of mainstream artists and designers incorporating such symbols; that it isn't beyond reasonable doubt that it's on purpose. That doesn't mean that I think there's a malevolent force behind it, at least not in the sense of a group hell-bent on enslaving all of humanity.. maybe marketing just works that way. If it helps to sell their wares then they're going to use it. To pin it down to their interest in history or the idea that they think it just looks cool is a bit faux-naïf imho.. many symbols have a richer history than that of the all seeing eye, and look just as cool. I don't think that it's purely down to chance that it appears as often as it does.

uprising2 · 03-11-2010 04:15AM

The occult symbols wouldn't be added just to simply sell more records, maybe on Iron Maiden records they might as the wannabe satanic gimps that listen to that crap would be all into it.
But the "pop artists" who appeal to pre teens and whose parents most likely pay for the cd's wouldn't be doing their sales any favors by inserting occult sh!t into their material.

I believe that the CEO's and high ranking underlings of the major record companies are the one's with all the idea's, the "artists" just do as they are told.

Sir Howard Stringer (Sony)
http://www.sony.com/SCA/bios/stringer.shtml

Slaughter: Horror at Sony's depraved promotion stunt with decapitated goat

Guests at the event were even invited to reach inside the goat’s still-warm carcass to eat offal from its stomach.

“The American Psychological Association says the average child watches 8,000 televised murders and 100,000 acts of violence before finishing elementary school. That number more than doubles by the time he or she reaches age eighteen.”
SOURCE: John Johnston, “Kids: Growing Up Scared,” Cincinnati Enquirer, March 20, 1994, p. E01.

It has been proven through many studies that violence on television DOES increase social violence . . .

“The Parents Television Council cites a review of nearly 1000 studies presented to the American College of Forensic Psychiatry in 1998. They found 'that all but 18 demonstrated that screen violence leads to real violence, and 12 of those 18 were funded by the television industry.' ”
SOURCE: David Grossman, “What the Surgeon General Found; As Early as 1972, the Link Was Clear Between Violent TV and Movies and Violent Youths,” Los Angeles Times, 21 October 1999, B-11.

PanchoVilla · 03-11-2010 05:50AM

uprising2 wrote: »

The occult symbols wouldn't be added just to simply sell more records, maybe on Iron Maiden records they might as the wannabe satanic gimps that listen to that crap would be all into it.

Hate to burst your bubble but Iron Maiden are not satanic whatsoever. They actually sang a lot about human rights and equality etc. Most metal bands are actually like that. Here's the lyrics of a popular Iron Maiden track.

White man came across the sea
He brought us pain and misery
He killed our tribes, he killed our creed
He took our game for his own need

We fought him hard we fought him well
Out on the plains we gave him hell
But many came too much for Cree
Oh will we ever be set free?

Riding through dust clouds and barren wastes
Galloping hard on the plains
Chasing the redskins back to their holes
Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom a stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack

Run to the hills, run for your lives
Run to the hills, run for your lives

Soldier blue in the barren wastes
Hunting and killing their game
Raping the women and wasting the men
The only good Indians are tame
Selling them whiskey and taking their gold
Enslaving the young and destroying the old

Run to the hills, run for your lives

gizmo · 03-11-2010 12:47PM

uprising2 wrote: »

Slaughter: Horror at Sony's depraved promotion stunt with decapitated goat

Guests at the event were even invited to reach inside the goat’s still-warm carcass to eat offal from its stomach.

Hah, awesome article direct from the Daily Mail school of bull**** journalism. Yes, there was a dead goat there that had been procured from a butcher and of course it was in bad taste, but the rest of the story is bull****.

"The 'warm entrails' referred to in the invitation and in the Mail on Sunday article was actually a meat soup, made to a traditional Greek recipe and served to attendees in china bowls direct from the caterers. There was never any question of journalists being able to touch the goat, or indeed eat the soup direct from the body of the goat, as one report has alleged. The goat was returned to the butcher at the end of the event."

Then of course, there was the fact that the journalist in question wasn't even at the event...

Sony states the writer of the original article for OPSM didn't even attend the event and based the article off the invitation:

"The article in UK Official PlayStation Magazine (OPSM), from which the Mail on Sunday article was sourced, was written by a journalist who did not attend and done on the basis of the invitation for the event, which employed a degree of hyperbole in order to encourage attendance - the journalist chose to take it as fact!"

As for the rest of the entertainment - pulling live snakes from a pit, eating grapes offered by topless models and throwing knives as target practice - that would have been pretty cool.

As for the other stats regarding kids watching violent TV and video games, I completely agree they shouldn't be allowed access to them but that is their parents fault and no one else's.

steelcityblues · 03-11-2010 08:57PM

For a good insider look into the seedy underbelly of the music industry, Dave McGowan's highly detailed account of the Laurel Canyon based artists is worth a read!

http://www.mygen.com/Laurel_Canyon-David_McGowan_report.htm

joebucks · 04-11-2010 02:40AM

Jay Z wearing a hoodie with the Ordo Templi Orientis motto. 'Do what thou wilt'

Alot of musicians are big fans of Aleister Crowley. He appeared on the Beatles cover of Sgt Peppars, Iron Maiden front man Bruce Dickinson also wrote a movie about Crowley- Chemical Wedding
Any Church of Thelema members on this board?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema

Thelema is a religious[1] philosophy that was developed[2] by the early 20th century British writer and ceremonial magician Aleister Crowley. He believed himself to be the prophet of a new age, the Æon of Horus,[3] based upon a religious experience that he had in Egypt in 1904.[1] By his account, a possibly non-corporeal being that called itself Aiwass contacted him and dictated a text known as The Book of the Law or Liber AL vel Legis, which outlined the principles of Thelema

gizmo · 04-11-2010 03:19AM

Jimmy Page has also retained a strong interest in Crowley over the years, owning his old property and buying some of his manuscripts...

I feel Aleister Crowley is a misunderstood genius of the 20th century. Because his whole thing was liberation of the person, of the entity, and that restrictions would foul you up, lead to frustration which leads to violence, crime, mental breakdown, depending on what sort of makeup you have underneath. The further this age we're in now gets into technology and alienation, a lot of the points he's made seem to manifest themselves all down the line.

The story of the movie, Lucifer Rising, or to be more specific, the soundtrack for it, is also an extremely interesting read. Which relates to not only Page but Bobby Beausoleil, one of the "Manson Family".

Personally I find the entire mystical element rubbish but at least it's an interesting read.

Illuminati symbolism in the Music Industry

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