Scumbag kids trick or treating...

30-10-2010 11:11AM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Hehe, I grew up in the U.S. and that's what kids do. I don't think the Irish fully understand the concept of "trick or treat". You give the kids a treat or they play a trick on you, which usually comes in the form of eggs on your door or toilet paper in your trees.

That's not a "trick", that's out and out vandalism

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Overreact much? It's eggs and toilet paper, they're not breaking windows or kicking in doors. I doubt you knew what Halloween was even about back in "your day". Halloween wasn't even really celebrated in this country until recently because of the Catholic Church. It's one of the few pagan holidays they didn't hijack because it's a celebration of the dead and the darker side of life. Read my previous post. As I said, maybe the Irish just don't get it yet. It's not just dressing up and handing out candy to kids.

:rolleyes:
Right, we've never had Samhain

Irish Guitarist · 30-10-2010 11:12AM

I hate this American "trick or treat" nonsense. Years ago you'd call to someones house and if they didn't give you sweets or money you'd just accept it and move on. As far as I'm concerned throwing eggs at someones house is vandalism and shouldn't be tolerated.

phasers · 30-10-2010 11:15AM

Children don't come to my house because the dogs bark, but I buy sweets anyway just in case someone is brave enough to knock in. If they do they get all the sweets. So far no kid has done it so I get a load of sweeties November 1st

PanchoVilla · 30-10-2010 11:18AM

bluewolf wrote: »

That's not a "trick", that's out and out vandalism

God forbid you should have to wash a few eggs off the door.

:rolleyes:
Right, we've never had Samhain

Yeah, you missed my edit.

At the time of mass transatlantic Irish and Scottish immigration that popularized Halloween in North America, Halloween in Ireland and Scotland had a strong tradition of guising and pranks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain#Gaelic_folklore

Egging a house is a prank, I'd hardly call it vandalism. You must have led a fairly protected life, eh?

PanchoVilla · 30-10-2010 11:19AM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I'm sorry for your troubles

No troubles for me, I enjoyed it.

padma · 30-10-2010 11:25AM

Every year on Halloween, All the young kids go trick or treating. The teenagers go throwing eggs and flour and bangers. It's just the way it is. Here and in the U.S, been like that for years.

jetpack101 · 30-10-2010 11:28AM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

WYou give kids treats because they scare away all the angry ghosts of our ancestors who hate us for what we've done to the country.

:D
With the ****e we are in now it will be the spirits themselves ringing your door bell with the works "what the **** are you lot up to"

I'm sure we could generate electricity from them spinning in there graves

Irish Guitarist · 30-10-2010 11:30AM

If anyone has enough money to buy eggs and throw them at someones house why don't they buy their own sweets?

dark crystal · 30-10-2010 11:30AM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Hehe, I grew up in the U.S. and that's what kids do. I don't think the Irish fully understand the concept of "trick or treat". You give the kids a treat or they play a trick on you, which usually comes in the form of eggs on your door or toilet paper in your trees. I guess it's a tradition based on myths of malevolent spirits that come out on Halloween night, that's why you light jack-o-lanterns and use fireworks to keep them away. Maybe you should research what Halloween is and you'll get a better idea of what it's all about.

Am I right in thinking that, In the US, it would be rare enough for kids to 'trick' anyone, as the majority of households would be well prepared and stocked up for the evening that's in it anyway? It's a big event in the American calender.

It's all a bit of fun, anyways. I don't know why anyone would begrudge handing out a few sweets to the kids one evening a year. My children always come back with the few obligatory apples, nuts and satsumas in the bag as well, so not all junk. Although, in fairness, those items are more often than not just left festering at the bottom of the bag, whilst the goodies are consumed with gusto!

Definitely wouldn't be handing out money though....

PanchoVilla · 30-10-2010 11:40AM

dark crystal wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that, In the US, it would be rare enough for kids to 'trick' anyone, as the majority of households would be well prepared and stocked up for the evening that's in it anyway? It's a big event in the American calender.

Yeah, pretty much. The tricks are usually reserved for the houses that refuse to hand out candy year after year. It was usually the ultra religious Christian houses that got the most toilet paper. It's a huge holiday over there with haunted houses and all sorts of stuff.

BostonB · 30-10-2010 11:50AM

TonyD79 wrote: »

Giving them money? God help the poor kids who arrive on your doorstep after doing their Communion!! A bag of sweets to lodge in their junior savings account!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Sorry what?

johnnyrotten · 30-10-2010 01:10PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

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Egging a house is a prank, I'd hardly call it vandalism. You must have led a fairly protected life, eh?

I would call it vandalism. Eggs are very difficult to wash off once dried

Rebelheart · 30-10-2010 02:04PM

0verblood wrote: »

Sometimes you get the odd decent kid putting effort into their costume and they might even sing you an odd song, it's especially cute if they little kids are shy! Deserve a quid and a mars bar or whatever. But most of the time it's young scumbag kids who put no effort into anything and just ask for free money.

A few years ago about 10 little knackerlings called to the door, not one of them was dressed up (I think one little kid had a green 2euro shop mask on). I was broke, had about 1 euro on me, so I gave it to the kid with the mask. The rest of them said "What about me bai gimme supm!" I said I didn't have anyting, so they told me to go **** myself. Little 5 year olds! Imagine. The worst thing was, their mothers were standing on the path with their buggies just laughing at them. "Aww isn't that cute? Little Jacinta told the cnut to go fcuk himself!"

So glad I'm not in Ireland for Halloween. Do you give trick or treaters money? Have you had any problems with these little scumbags?

Another reason why living in the countryside is superior to living in Dublin and housing estates generally.

Rebelheart · 30-10-2010 02:09PM

Anyway, any time I hear the term "trick or treat" I think of this massacre where, in Halloween 1993, the gunmen shouted "trick or treat" before gunning down people in the pub - and the soccer match between the north and the south shortly after it when members of the crowd shouted it out to provoke the south. The black comedy play, A Night in November, was written about it.

Scambuster · 30-10-2010 02:12PM

Fling dried **** at their crusty tinker mouths.

mikemac · 30-10-2010 02:13PM

I thought the tradition was monkey nuts and sweets
When did money get introduced?

And if I don't give anything my door gets eggs and someone mentioned a banger in my letterbox?

It's like an episode of the Sopranos, pay up or else......

Put a banger in my letterbox and you'll be introduced to a 34" hurl

spurious · 30-10-2010 02:16PM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

When did the phrase "Trick or treat?" become the accepted norm in Ireland?

When I was growing up we said "Help the Hallowe'en party!" and all we got was fruit and nuts, popcorn if we were lucky.

Any wannabe yank saying trick or treat at my door will get nothing.

padma · 30-10-2010 02:17PM

spurious wrote: »

Any wannabe yank saying trick or treat at my door will get nothing.

Kids in Ireland have been saying this for 30 years. Have you ever gone out trick or treating when you were a child?

El Horseboxo · 30-10-2010 02:19PM

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Hehe, I grew up in the U.S. and that's what kids do. I don't think the Irish fully understand the concept of "trick or treat". You give the kids a treat or they play a trick on you, which usually comes in the form of eggs on your door or toilet paper in your trees. I guess it's a tradition based on myths of malevolent spirits that come out on Halloween night, that's why you light jack-o-lanterns and use fireworks to keep them away. Maybe you should research what Halloween is and you'll get a better idea of what it's all about.

I thought that was just in the films. I grew up in the US too living in 3 different states. Kansas, Wisconsin and Connecticut and i never remember having my house egged or TP'd at halloween. Nor do i remember doing it. And i didn't grow up thinking i was warding away spirits or any of that nonsense. Granted i'm Irish and just moved over there. But from my experience it's not just Irish kids that don't "get" Halloween.

alwaysadub · 30-10-2010 02:26PM

padma wrote: »

Kids in Ireland have been saying this for 30 years. Have you ever gone out trick or treating when you were a child?

Er no they haven't!
It was Help the Halloween Party when i was growing up, and when my brothers and sisters were growing up, and when my nephew was growing up.
If you'd gone to a house 20years ago and said trick or treat, you'd get nothing but funny looks.

padma · 30-10-2010 02:28PM

alwaysadub wrote: »

Er no they haven't!
It was Help the Halloween Party when i was growing up, and when my brothers and sisters were growing up, and when my nephew was growing up.
If you'd gone to a house 20years ago and said trick or treat, you'd get nothing but funny looks.

Maybe in Dublin, but that certainly wasn't the case in Limerick where I grew up.

30-10-2010 03:33PM

padma wrote: »

Maybe in Dublin, but that certainly wasn't the case in Limerick where I grew up.

Nor in my section of dublin

mikemac · 30-10-2010 03:37PM

20 years ago we had Trick or Treat in Tipperary

padma · 30-10-2010 03:39PM

Trick or treat, smelly feet, have you anything nice to eat!!! bandied around for a period too.

dark crystal · 30-10-2010 03:40PM

alwaysadub wrote: »

Er no they haven't!
It was Help the Halloween Party when i was growing up, and when my brothers and sisters were growing up, and when my nephew was growing up.
If you'd gone to a house 20years ago and said trick or treat, you'd get nothing but funny looks.

25 years ago when we were going round in Waterford, we'd always say "trick or Treat" too....No funny looks

Gunsfortoys · 30-10-2010 03:40PM

A voucher for elocution lessons wouldn't go a miss for these scumbags.

hotmail.com · 30-10-2010 03:43PM

What do kids do in rural Ireland? Do they bother going out for it?

Scráib · 30-10-2010 03:57PM

I only ever remember trick or treaters at halloween twice back home (Kilkenny).

SoulTrader · 30-10-2010 04:32PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AQPOoTlIlA

alwaysadub · 30-10-2010 04:43PM

Oh. Well we always used Help The Halloween Party. As did everyone else i knew..
We mainly got things like oranges and nuts. And loose popcorn for some reason which stuck to everything!!

Scumbag kids trick or treating...

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