Private sector sick days

galway2007 · 26-10-2010 10:16AM #1

It looks like the private sector as almost as bad as the public sector when it comes to there sick days
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/cost-of-sick-days-down-for-firms-but-is-still-over-euro550m-a-year-2394047.html

Do these people not want Jobs????

gurramok · 26-10-2010 10:19AM

galway2007 wrote: »

It looks like the private sector as almost as bad as the public sector when it comes to there sick days
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/cost-of-sick-days-down-for-firms-but-is-still-over-euro550m-a-year-2394047.html

Do these people not want Jobs????

Perhaps you prefer humans to be replaced by robots as robots don't get sick:rolleyes:

Nijmegen · 26-10-2010 10:20AM

Do you bother reading past the headline?

The euro figure was down significantly on the last SFA survey two years ago, which estimated the cost at €793m.
Despite the huge cost, SMEs still have one of the better attendance records in Irish business, claims the SFA. Staff at businesses with less than 50 employees are on sick leave for an average of five days every year, compared to the national average of eight.

Nowhere in the report does it cite, for example, workers being sick mainly on a Monday or a Friday, as in the internal Department of Health report on the same matter with their own employees.

The average civil servant takes 11 days sick leave per year.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sick-leave-in-public-service-is-twice-the-rate-of-private-sector-1922474.html

whippet · 26-10-2010 10:21AM

it is very interesting to note that the rate is about 50% less in SMEs compared to large organisations.

In larger companies (including the Civil / Public sector) it is easier to take sick leave as there is protection in numbers .... where by in smaller companines a sick day can have a bigger effect on the remainder of the company.

I am ten years in the same SME and i have taken about 4 sick days in total, and none in the last five years.

Grant it, I have worked many days when I probably was better off in bed, but there was work that just had to be done.

ei.sdraob · 26-10-2010 10:27AM

No sick days for me, sometimes work 7 days a week, any time during the 24hrs (Thats what you get working with people in other timezones)

A sick day for me is a day with a laptop in bed, still working

no work no pay its that simple

changes · 26-10-2010 10:39AM

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

Riskymove · 26-10-2010 10:52AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

The average civil servant takes 11 days sick leave per year.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sick-leave-in-public-service-is-twice-the-rate-of-private-sector-1922474.html

well

Employees at bigger firms are out of the office for an average of 10 days every year.

so pretty much the same average there...some people get sick, sometimes seriously...some people take the mick with sick leave...some people dont take any sick leave....

look beyond the private/public stuff

The_Honeybadger · 26-10-2010 11:07AM

changes wrote: »

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

LOL, 20 mondays a year? My experience of working for an american multinational is a bit different to yours so, never once took a sick day as when you came back you had double the work to do to catch up. Were you not sacked or are you messing?

maninasia · 26-10-2010 11:10AM

changes wrote: »

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

I don't know any multinational that would accept that.

keane2097 · 26-10-2010 11:13AM

changes wrote: »

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

This is obviously made up.

fenris · 26-10-2010 11:15AM

keane2097 wrote: »

This is obviously made up.

or why he is not working there anymore!

Gumbo · 26-10-2010 11:20AM

gurramok wrote: »

Perhaps you prefer humans to be replaced by robots as robots don't get sick:rolleyes:

i think the point is that with all the moaning about PS sick days, the private sector averages the same.

Riskymove pretty much sumed it up above, look beyond the Private V Public, people get sick.

Tora Bora · 26-10-2010 11:29AM

changes wrote: »

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

Missed 20 Monday's a year eh! I have news for you boy. Anybody who misses, or even thinks about missing 20 Monday's a year, is useless pratt.

Useless pratts never change their spots. A useless pratt will always be a useless pratt, no matter where he or she works.

So the public service is very welcome to you.

changes · 26-10-2010 11:34AM

mickeyk wrote: »

LOL, 20 mondays a year? My experience of working for an american multinational is a bit different to yours so, never once took a sick day as when you came back you had double the work to do to catch up. Were you not sacked or are you messing?

No i'm completely serious, we had a weekly target to achieve i always got my target done in the other 4 days and they only paid me for 4 days work if thats all i was in for.
So i got my weeks work done but they only had to pay me for 4 days if i missed the monday.
My supervisor had me in for numerous meetings to try and improve my attendance in the end i jumped before i was pushed.

changes · 26-10-2010 11:37AM

Tora Bora wrote: »

Missed 20 Monday's a year eh! I have news for you boy. Anybody who misses, or even thinks about missing 20 Monday's a year, is useless pratt.

Useless pratts never change their spots. A useless pratt will always be a useless pratt, no matter where he or she works.

So the public service is very welcome to you.

Thats where you are completely wrong, i haven't drank in nearly 5 years and my attendance and work rate is perfect now. People can and do change.

FreudianSlippers · 26-10-2010 11:38AM

I'm self-employed so there is no such thing as a sick day. If I don't work I don't make money.

You can't really call a solicitor and say that you're sick and can't appear before the Judge

gurramok · 26-10-2010 12:26PM

changes wrote: »

Thats where you are completely wrong, i haven't drank in nearly 5 years and my attendance and work rate is perfect now. People can and do change.

What are you trying to say?

That all those in the private sector who go sick allegedly 20 Mondays a year are alcoholics?:eek:

By the way I work in a MNC and you are 100% wrong on your 20 Mondays assertion.

galway2007 · 26-10-2010 12:31PM

kceire wrote: »

i think the point is that with all the moaning about PS sick days, the private sector averages the same.

Riskymove pretty much sumed it up above, look beyond the Private V Public, people get sick.

Agree
But the media did not run with the private sector sick days on its front page.
When people on here were bashing the public sector for taking sick day, they implied that the private sector never took a sick day
It was like the pot calling the kettle black

gurramok · 26-10-2010 12:37PM

galway2007 wrote: »

Agree
But the media did not run with the private sector sick days on its front page.
When people on here were bashing the public sector for taking sick day, they implied that the private sector never took a sick day
It was like the pot calling the kettle black

We pay you hence the interest, you don't pay me hence no interest.

changes · 26-10-2010 12:52PM

gurramok wrote: »

What are you trying to say?

That all those in the private sector who go sick allegedly 20 Mondays a year are alcoholics?:eek:

By the way I work in a MNC and you are 100% wrong on your 20 Mondays assertion.

This post makes no sense to me at all. When did i refer to anyone but myself in the 20 days. You jumping to your own conclusions.

Also, I'm 100% wrong in what?

Gumbo · 26-10-2010 12:57PM

gurramok wrote: »

We pay you hence the interest, you don't pay me hence no interest.

ignore - double post.

Gumbo · 26-10-2010 12:58PM

gurramok wrote: »

We pay you hence the interest, you don't pay me hence no interest.

remember that the next time a consumer buys a product of your employer/MNC.
you dont know wether the customer is a public employee or private.

danbohan · 26-10-2010 01:02PM

changes wrote: »

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

outstanding , your exactly why we need to maintain the public sector exactly like it is , where would this country be without people like you !!

maninasia · 26-10-2010 01:03PM

changes wrote: »

No i'm completely serious, we had a weekly target to achieve i always got my target done in the other 4 days and they only paid me for 4 days work if thats all i was in for.
So i got my weeks work done but they only had to pay me for 4 days if i missed the monday.
My supervisor had me in for numerous meetings to try and improve my attendance in the end i jumped before i was pushed.

You misrepresented the situation initially, fact is you would have been fired within the year.

gurramok · 26-10-2010 01:04PM

changes wrote: »

This post makes no sense to me at all. When did i refer to anyone but myself in the 20 days. You jumping to your own conclusions.

Also, I'm 100% wrong in what?

"When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year"

It doesn't happen just because its private sector. It can happen in both areas as you can be seriously sick in each.

kceire wrote: »

remember that the next time a consumer buys a product of your employer/MNC.
you dont know wether the customer is a public employee or private.

So? A tiny section of the public buys the companys products, the entire public is served by public servants.

newmug · 26-10-2010 01:05PM

changes wrote: »

When i worked in the private sector for an american multinational i missed an average of about 20 mondays a year. Since i've joined the public sector i miss about 2 or 3 days a year and never mondays.

No wonder you dont work there anymore:mad:

mickeyk wrote: »

LOL, 20 mondays a year? My experience of working for an american multinational is a bit different to yours so, never once took a sick day as when you came back you had double the work to do to catch up.

+1. Not only that, but in my place, when your monthly "review" comes up, any sick is an issue for the rest of the year . We're allowed 3 instances of sick absenteeism, and my place is considered generous! Any more than that and they throw the book at you, and you're out the gate on your arse for any excuse. Missing an hour is considered an instance of absenteeism.

changes wrote: »

No i'm completely serious, we had a weekly target to achieve i always got my target done in the other 4 days and they only paid me for 4 days work if thats all i was in for.
So i got my weeks work done but they only had to pay me for 4 days if i missed the monday.
My supervisor had me in for numerous meetings to try and improve my attendance in the end i jumped before i was pushed.

Well now, thats a bit different than what you originally said. If you only got paid for what you did, thats a different kettle of fish. I think the anger out there is directed at people who miss work, but get paid anyway. Lucky for you you could miss your full pay for nearly half the year.

changes · 26-10-2010 01:06PM

danbohan wrote: »

outstanding , your exactly why we need to maintain the public sector exactly like it is , where would this country be without people like you !!

By people like me do you mean people who turn their life around? or should nobody ever get the chance to progress in life if they've been less that perfect in the past???

changes · 26-10-2010 01:08PM

maninasia wrote: »

You misrepresented the situation initially, fact is you would have been fired within the year.

Wrong i was there for 3 years.

changes · 26-10-2010 01:12PM

newmug wrote: »

Well now, thats a bit different than what you originally said. If you only got paid for what you did, thats a different kettle of fish. I think the anger out there is directed at people who miss work, but get paid anyway. Lucky for you you could miss your full pay for nearly half the year.

On those weeks that i missed mondays i did more work than i was paid for. I did 5 days worth of work for 4 days pay.

fat__tony · 26-10-2010 01:19PM

The OP is clearly trolling.

Ignore him.

Mr. Presentable · 26-10-2010 01:27PM

gurramok wrote: »

We pay you hence the interest, you don't pay me hence no interest.

Doesn't matter which PS you are in, if you are more than a day or two sick the taxpayer foots the bill in any case.........

Private sector sick days

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