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Stealing from work. Is it ever justified?

  • 19-10-2010 02:55PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    I was reading a report in today's English Times and it got me thinking...
    Is there anyone that feels its ok to steal from work? Is it ever justified?

    My own thoughts is that its not. I've had to let people go before due to this very misbehaviour.
    I knew of others that were at it elsewhere and I suspect a few that are currently at it now.

    It will never be eradicated but how can it be stopped to some extent?
    Have you ever just thought about doing it?
    So 'After Hours', whats your call on stealing from work?
    Will it get worse in this area of crime, if the country gets worse and the lower paid are hit more in the pocket by our government?


    Here is a copy of the Times report by the way: http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2172/wwwthetimescoukttonewsu.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    Seems if you are a banker, it is fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    No. Although I will come clean and admit that I have from time to time printed personal items on company printer paper :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    What if your a fulltime burglar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Does shaking the vending machines count as stealing from work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭twinsen


    Stealing is stealing for me. It doesnt matter who you are stealing from.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,903 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    listermint wrote: »
    What if your a fulltime burglar?

    would that mean you put things back!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    Does stealing time, posting on boards.ie count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Haha, it's like the stealing to feed your family routine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Do heavy duty bin bags count? Theyre expensive in the shops.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 614 ✭✭✭colinod0806


    twinsen wrote: »
    Stealing is stealing for me. It doesnt matter who you are stealing from.
    op wasnt asking if you would call it something else. is it justified?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Riskymove wrote: »
    would that mean you put things back!!

    Touche :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Biggins wrote: »
    My own thoughts is that its not.

    But you thought it was ok for an Army intelligence analyst to release classified and private information?
    They are an employee paid to do a job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I've stolen the hearts & minds of everyone at work..........


























    Now I just need to find out where to put their corpses :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Vourney


    No it's never justified.
    I'd never stoop down to the level of my employer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    But you thought it was ok for an Army intelligence analyst to release classified and private information?
    They are an employee paid to do a job

    ...And he did it by gathering all the information didn't he, which I'm sure he was being paid to do anyway?
    He, by the way also didn't gain from it at any stage - but that whole area is a big topic in itself and I understand where your coming from.

    I won't derail this thread so I'll stop there on that topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Elenxor


    Yep..I use stapler for personal letters, print off recipes, paper clips, biro,walk out with rubber bands on my wrist....
    Gawd I'm so bad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭lisaface


    phill106 wrote: »
    Seems if you are a banker, it is fine.

    ... or a government official - let's not forget the 'Ahern Scandal' not too long ago ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    Perhaps not justified but when you are working a minimum wage job for a large multinational company like Tescos or Boots I can see how some people might see it as a victimless crime.

    Who is the real victim if an employee steals something worth 5-10€ from the likes of Tesco's who could easily take in 30,000-40,000€ through the tills daily?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    Who is the real victim if an employee steals something worth 5-10€ from the likes of Tesco's who could easily take in 30,000-40,000€ through the tills daily?

    Sure why stop at €10 and why stop at one employee... you realise that every employee doing a bit of thieving from Tesco's or the likes is putting other employees job's on the line?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    Who is the real victim if an employee steals something worth 5-10€ from the likes of Tesco's who could easily take in 30,000-40,000€ through the tills daily?

    What?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    pens and other such stationary - i'm going to hell i know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    Who is the real victim if an employee steals something worth 5-10€ from the likes of Tesco's who could easily take in 30,000-40,000€ through the tills daily?

    Uh....................children? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭lisaface


    prinz wrote: »
    Sure why stop at €10 and why stop at one employee... you realise that every employee doing a bit of thieving from Tesco's or the likes is putting other employees job's on the line?

    This made me laugh, thanks for the laughs!
    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Uh....................children? :confused:

    I don't quite understand your reply to the other person. How are Children the victims?? Are you saying All of Tesco workers have Children?

    ...And how did you come up with that idea??
    *scratches head* I personally think that's a really snobby frame of thinking, or perhaps that's just me interpreting you entirely wrong.. do share on what you did mean though, because I'm intrigued, how are Children the victims?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    prinz wrote: »
    Sure why stop at €10 and why stop at one employee... you realise that every employee doing a bit of thieving from Tesco's or the likes is putting other employees job's on the line?

    I wasn't condoning it. I was just stating how certain people might justify it.

    Not every employee will steal. However a certain proportion will. It is human nature unfortunately and something that the likes of large supermarkets factor into the costing of their products.

    BTW How are those who steal putting others jobs on the line??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Used to help myself to my groceries from a collage job I worked in that amongst other things paid me buttons and made me finish a shift alone after being held up at gunpoint.

    I wouldn't do it now but I've zero shame whatsoever about having done it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Another day another box of stolen pens!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    BTW How are those who steal putting others jobs on the line??

    When you are the manager of a store and that store is losing €xxxx amount every month due to theft by staff who do you think headoffice threatens?

    Not to mention the security staff who are obviously not doing their jobs if they cannot see staff pocketing stock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    It makes too much financial sense to stop stealing from work. I work in a shop so I usually discount(steal) all my groceries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    They took away our stationary cupboard last year :(

    I use the printer for personal letters, I've had things faxed from the secretary's office, and once I accidentally brought home a fork from the common room. I don't think it's morally reprehensible. I do have several thousand euro's worth of equipment for my use here, but I don't plan on taking any of it with me when my contract runs out.

    Well, maybe one of the external hard drives. It's a terabyte, after all!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Not much worth stealing here. If there was, I probably would!


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