[CoD Black Ops] News and Discussion

everlast75 wrote: »

The reason I mentioned the shotgun was it too is a "one shot = one kill" weapon and to highlight the difference that should be evident to each weapon, i.e. use for different distances.

I am surprised at the amount of hitmarkers you get tbh, becoz I've seen your gameplay and you're pretty damn good... ok, excellent :cool: All I can go on is my experience with the sniper rifle (>90% kills with one shot - and not because I am any better, just what has happened in my games) and that of any full game videos of other players, which appear to me to also have a similar success rate.

I don't want to compare the merits and demerits of primary weapons to each other, because they are all plain to see (with the exception of the UMP - completely overpowered ) - the only point I made was that
1) running around with a sniper rifle which is a huge weapon (snigger) and 2) being able to bring the weapon up while running, quickscoping a bloke at 6 feet is, in my view, ridiculous and hopefully one aspect of the game that won't make the transition from MW2 to BL Ops.

You keep saying you hope it wont.. but it will.. unless they make sniper rifles stationary or add a 5 second time limit before you can shoot after zoom, you'll always beable to quickscope, you could quickscope in cod4, W@W, cod3,cod2,cod1,halo,cs,bf etc (Maybe). Its unrealistic i agree, but so is running around with a lightmachine gun and blasting peoples faces off (Dont link the guy with akimbo lmg's ) or even hipfiring a shotgun isn't gonna happen in real life, its a game and games are built to be balanced, do you really think sniping in mw2 is imbalanced ? like i said in another post, i have never played with or against some1 sniping who had as much of an impact (Kill wise or objective wise) as me or anyone that i know whos half decent when using smg's/AR. Removing a snipers ability to kill people in close range puts them at an absolutely massive disadvantage. Also there are far more anoying things in mw2 than people quickscoping that look like they could be making the transition .



Also with no slight of hand, it'll be harder to quickscope, or at least take a half second longer.

krudler wrote: »

doesnt really show a whole lot plot wise tbh. wonder will the storyline be as good as MW1 and 2

Are you on crack?
The MW2 story was awful, so so awful.

With Treyarch behind it, you can be sure the game will be great.

everlast75 wrote: »

ok then, thanks for clearing that up! The simple point I was making was...



em.. yes

this is getting old, i really don't even know if your playing the same game as me or if your just ****ing with me. How exactly are they imbalanced, and stop comparing them to a bloody shotgun, blops isnt out yet, we have no idea how each gun will compare in it. Tell me exactly why you think the sniper rifle is imbalanced and the Famas/m16/Scar/m4/ak aren't, because you can kill some1 close range if your lucky ? or very good at sniping ?

So does having a limited range on a shotgun (which incidentally will be a primary weapon on BL Ops) but the only point I was making is that being able to shot the snot off a guy's face from a couple o miles away should be balanced off.. If you have the rifle out and some bloke gets the jump on you.. well that's what you get for walking around with your lad in your hand.

You are ! Its starting to sound like its not that snipers are too good and that maybe its you thats not very. Do you seriously lose that many 1v1's vs snipers when you have an AR or SMG or Shotgun or LMG ? If you do, then i guess we found the problem, if i meet (And im 100% sure its the same with everyone else on here) a sniper in close range.. hes ****ed 9/10 times.

Most people who run around teleporting also have a pretty ****ty k:d ratio at the end of the game.. It doesn't mean that its not broken or a pain in the ass to play against!

So now we're comparing a primary weapon to a perk, nice thinking.

P.S. Have you seen Talon's videos with the sniper rifle!? I'm not slagging Talon off, I enjoy his vids/commentary etcetera. The point is he manages to r@pe pretty well with a sniper. Also, look at the majority of the montages out there - some guy with a sniper q/s and getting 8 kills in a row!? Seriously..

Your not serious are you ? Why would talon post up a sniping video of him doing poorly ? Infact why would he post a video using any gun of him doing poorly. The reason theres so many sniping montage is the whole 360 ****e that kids love doing, they look pretty, thats the whole idea. And 8 kills in a row, wow... that must be hard.


P.S, i dont really think snipers are underbalanced, i think they need there damage increased and taking away slight of hand will hopefully cut out everyone wanting to be a ****ing 360 ninja.

Magill wrote: »

its not that snipers are too good and that maybe its you thats not very.

sheesh.... I was putting across my experience in the game and my opinion. It appears that you have gotten your panties in a twist with comments like the above and "I think we've found the problem".

I agree its getting old so will leave it there.

Maybe you don't mean to come across as patronising and arrogant, but you do.

Apologies - I shall retreat from under the non-nuking rock from whence I came oh great one...

/"discussion"

MarkY91 wrote: »

people who complain about sniper rifles are the ones who cant use them:rolleyes:

So people who complain about commando cant use that perk either ? or they cant use tubes properly because they complain about it ?


There is a skill to using a sniper , i would agree with Magill that the damage should be increased , but with the auto aim quick scope is a bit far-fetched . However i'm not bothered by snipers either way.

I don't mind quick scopping that much, it's annoying at times but not often for me to dislike the game over it.

But saying that it should be made that it's not as easy as it is now, not because i'm 'jealous' of people with the 'skillz' to do it. The pure nature of being a sniper is that you can kill people at long ranges.

Saying that it should be kept because snipers get caught out up close, well that's pretty silly don't you think? All guns have the benefits over other guns along with their weaknesses, it's what makes people choose different ones. If you start making it that they're all good at everything, well that kinda removes the reasoning behind them.

Magill wrote: »

It will be made harder with no slight of hand, I think you'll find i said, countless times, that being up close with a sniper IS a huge disadvantage, the way it should be even with the ability to quickscope....would you rather they just stand there and die ? "OH IM A SNIPER, YOU IS SMG'ER, I JUST STAND HERE AND DIE DUR DUR".

Quickscoping just gives you that one shot that may save you once in a while... you certainly arent gonna go into a room full of enemies and clear out by doing it. The problem is that the maps in cod aren't designed for snipers, most of them are very compact with very few open spaces, its not like BF where you can go set yourself up on a hill and blast people from miles off, quite often you spawn with an ememy 10 foot in front of you. Making them worse at close range than they are now would be silly. My point was that some people are exaggerating how good/easy it is to quickscope and snipe at close range...as if its some sort of "IWIN" button, its really not that easy and is certainly weaker than every other gun at close range.

Also have to remember that in blops, you can only use pistols as secondaries (I think) so you can't pull out that spas and rush in like you can in mw2.


p.s thank you for keeping me entertained in college... cisco is soooooo boring, enjoy these debates

So basically your whole argument is based around how snipers are bad at close range?

Sound.

At the mo, I snipe with a M240 with thermal scope :P

If they're far away, I snipe with a MG4 and a thermal scope

Have an actual sniping class, but don't use it that much.

Sod'o swords wrote: »

With your reasoning behind that argument being that they are at a disadvantage at close range?

Though I know snipers in COD and real life snipers vary in their requirements and how they're used, but the principle's the same.

Snipers are 1337 at long range, but Oh Noes at close range.

As you said, with slight of hand removed from assisting snipers it will help somewhat. On top of that there's a few wickle things they can do to make it allllll better.

Then everyone wins.

No my reasoning, as ive explained quite a few times already, is that they are balanced. They aren't overpowered or underpowered.

Are they better than AR's at long range - Yes
Are they better than AR's at medium range - no
Are they better than AR's at short range - no
Are they better than AR's at capping flags and rushing - no
Are they better than AR's at getting high scores - no
Are they better than AR's at killing multiple enemies - no

Balance.

"Snipers are 1337 at long range, but Oh Noes at close range." Yes like it is ingame... i fail to see the point your trying to make ?

p.s - Hometime ! **** YEH !

Adnan Alves wrote: »

It's the fools who go around with tags iIizZzZXxXXx <insert gimp name replacing letters with numbers> xXxXiIIixXx thinking they are the dogs bollocks yet might hit a barn door .

LMAO! Its so true, in fact my profile tag line is UppEr CaSe, WtF?
Seriously like? Is there some fad I havent heard of? Where did this tardation come from? Do they think its cool or something mixing upper and lower case? If so.... why in gods name why?

There is nothing more I love in MW2 than completely owning these tools for the whole game, something very satisfying to see some idiot with some tag <<Sn1PrSkIllz>> in his fuzzy romper suit and rifle at the start of the match.... blasting his face off so many times and then him coming back for revenge with a normal persons loadout!!! LOL ... not so sniper skills now are ya!.... boom... owned again... <<Sn1PrSkIllz>> has left the game

Please stop swinging handbags around lads, someone could break a nail! :eek:

Thank you.