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6lbs in 7 days

  • 13-10-2010 06:36PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭


    Hiya,

    I'm trying to make weight for a BJJ competition next week and I'm currently 6lbs short. I could enter as I am at 85KG but I've like to drop to the next class but I'm not sure if its possible. My diet is good and I've no problem maintaining weight or dropping as I need it over a longer period but this is the first time I need to drop quickly.

    I've been told all sorts so far (no carbs, drink just protein shakes, etc) plus the usual of dehydrating before the weight in. But as this is my first competition I'm not sure when the weight in going to be exactly and I'd like to not impact my conditioning in a negative way.

    Any got similar experience or suggestions?

    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭The Guvnor


    How long between weigh in and comp?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭aFlabbyPanda


    the same day and I would guess based on the schedule I've seen maybe an hour between at most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    BrianjG wrote: »
    Hiya,

    I'm trying to make weight for a BJJ competition next week and I'm currently 6lbs short. I could enter as I am at 85KG but I've like to drop to the next class but I'm not sure if its possible. My diet is good and I've no problem maintaining weight or dropping as I need it over a longer period but this is the first time I need to drop quickly.

    I've been told all sorts so far (no carbs, drink just protein shakes, etc) plus the usual of dehydrating before the weight in. But as this is my first competition I'm not sure when the weight in going to be exactly and I'd like to not impact my conditioning in a negative way.

    Any got similar experience or suggestions?

    Thanks.

    it's your first comp. just go in at whatever your walking weight is at the mo. it's all about the experience... isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Banks


    it's your first comp. just go in at whatever your walking weight is at the mo. it's all about the experience... isn't it?

    I agree, I think you get weighed with the gi on as well so factor that in!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭aFlabbyPanda


    Banks wrote: »
    I agree, I think you get weighed with the gi on as well so factor that in!!

    I have, I'm currently in the LHW class with the Gi.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    The Guvnor wrote: »
    How long between weigh in and comp?

    This will basically determine whether or not you can make the weight IMO. You can reasonably shift 3-4 pounds of fat between now and then if you eat very cleanly (and have fat to shift). I would strongly suggest that it's better to step on the mat in good condition for your first one, rather than negatively affected by a weight cut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 859 ✭✭✭BobbyOLeary


    Khannie wrote: »
    This will basically determine whether or not you can make the weight IMO. You can reasonably shift 3-4 pounds of fat between now and then if you eat very cleanly (and have fat to shift). I would strongly suggest that it's better to step on the mat in good condition for your first one, rather than negatively affected by a weight cut.

    I'd agree here. I've cut weight like that for BJJ comps before and I've had mixed success. If you drop pretty much all carbs and eat enough protein and fats to stop you going crazy with hunger you'll make 6lbs (provided you're not lean to begin with) no problem.

    My first gi comp was the Irish Open last year (wasn't really a fan of gi competitions, preferred no-gi, though Barry can tell you how quickly my mind changed!) and I made a similar weight drop to fit into the 76kg class. I felt quite strong on the day and my cut went well but I got my ass handed to me. I've turned up to others without even knowing what I weigh and come away with medals. Go figure.

    Bottom line - yes, you can lose the weight in that time. Is it beneficial? It depends, for your first comp, no. Talk to your coach and see what he says.

    Any other q's fire away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Same day wher in I'd forget about dehydrating any sort of weight.
    There is a reason pro-MMA/boxing fights have 24hours or more between weigh-in and fight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 859 ✭✭✭BobbyOLeary


    Mellor wrote: »
    Same day wher in I'd forget about dehydrating any sort of weight.
    There is a reason pro-MMA/boxing fights have 24hours or more between weigh-in and fight

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this because of the danger of head trauma in someone who is severely dehydrated?

    I've seen plenty of guys roll in jitz dehydrated. It's not something I'd advise as a regular course of action but it can be done and can be successful without any major ill effects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this because of the danger of head trauma in someone who is severely dehydrated?

    That was the original thinking behind having 24 hours between weigh in and fight alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this because of the danger of head trauma in someone who is severely dehydrated?

    I've seen plenty of guys roll in jitz dehydrated. It's not something I'd advise as a regular course of action but it can be done and can be successful without any major ill effects.
    Originally yea, but because of the fact that they moved it, people are now cutting way more weight than they could of previously. to levels where they wouldn't be close to able to fight

    It's one thing to roll a little dehydrated, but i'm talking about elite level.

    There has even been accusations of people failing weight on purpose, planning to forfit 50% of the purse for stepping in, just for an edge in the fight (+ therefore the win purse)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Mellor wrote: »
    Originally yea, but because of the fact that they moved it, people are now cutting way more weight than they could of previously. to levels where they wouldn't be close to able to fight

    Eventually, over-cutting leads to a ****ty performance. Beyond a certain point the 24 hours isn't enough to recover from the trauma you've put your body through and you'll get your ass handed to you. I've seen this more than once. At least you're hydrated though. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    Mellor wrote: »
    Same day wher in I'd forget about dehydrating any sort of weight.
    There is a reason pro-MMA/boxing fights have 24hours or more between weigh-in and fight
    Dehydrating cuts down on your cerebro-spinal fluid apparently, leaving less cushioning between brain and skull when you're getting struck to the noggin. I may be off a bit there.

    Dehydrating cuts down on pretty much every bodily function you require to grapple :), don't do it. Between weigh in and stepping onto the mat for your first fight you'll have anything between 5mins and 30mins depending. In other words, not enough time to rehydrate from any water cut. Also I would point out that the reason you weigh directly is to prevent cutting.

    You should have your weight division picked and have talked to your coach about this. He/she will know what division you should be in.

    Also, remember 1.5-2kg for the gi! Weigh yourself in the gi right now and don't forget you have to wear your belt in the scales too! many's a man has forgotten about that precious 300g :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Another thing:
    A lot of people weigh themselves in the evening, or before they walk into the gym, but at this stage, they've already ate breakfast, lunch and dinner, so they will weigh a couple of pounds heavier than normally.
    In order to get an accurate measurment of your weight, weigh yourself first thing in the morning, after you go to the toilet and before you eat. You may find you have less weight to lose than you think.

    Another good tip for the coming days: salad and skipping :)

    Best of luck in the comp.


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