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Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

  • 12-10-2010 06:25PM
    #1
    The Agogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    Posted in another forum . Let's hear the rabble of After Hours though!

    Personally, I think its disgraceful. But then again...it doesn't really affect me (yet!)

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  • #2
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I'm sure there's something under the FOI act which will allow people access to their records.


  • #3
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    If there can be Canon Law, can I make up Fuji Law or Flying Spaghetti Monster Law?


  • #4
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Thats fine, they'll just have a lot more Atheists/Zionists/Muslims/Hindu/Bhuddist/Protestant followers in the Catholic Church now.


  • #5
    Revolution9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    Great. let's campaign for a new law.
    Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.
    Guess the Pope is f*cked.


  • #6
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    fontanalis wrote: »
    If there can be Canon Law, can I make up Fuji Law or Flying Spaghetti Monster Law?

    Who is stopping you?

    It pays to certify stupidity.

    As a matter of interest do you bellitle the religious beliefs of everybody or do you reserve your attempts at stand up for the catholic church.


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  • #7
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    And there was me thinking every action in the world, good or evil was down to "free will"

    I don't see free will to follow your own path here. Been suspended


  • #8
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Im happy im not a catholic with that church.


  • #9
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    The most sensible approach would be to avoid baptising your child and allow them to opt in or out when they grow up as they can make an informed choice if they want to choose catholicism


  • #10
    JohnathanM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    Why does this actually matter though, outside of the incredible nerve of it? Seems like a pretty desperate move to me and does anybody actually pay attention to the membership numbers Fuerher Ratzinger spouts, anyhow as the Church slides into irrelevance?

    Ratzinger might do well to spend more time asking why so many actually bothered taking the time to be officially marked off, given that he's largely responsible.


  • #11
    Revolution9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    Let's all rally behind Ian Paisley in our hatred of the backwards and anti-progressive Catholic Church.

    Maybe then he'll realise we're a rather nice bunch after all and let us have our 6 counties back.


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  • #12
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Once you go Catholic, you never go back.


  • #13
    The Agogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    Terry wrote: »
    I'm sure there's something under the FOI act which will allow people access to their records.

    What then? Just buy some tippex?


  • #14
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Revolution9 wrote: »
    Great. let's campaign for a new law.
    Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.
    Guess the Pope is f*cked.

    I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.


  • #15
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    "I'd like to leave the church please!"

    "computer says no.."


  • #16
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    orourkeda wrote: »
    I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.

    I stuck chewing gum to a classmates hair once, kinda drew the line at being part of the Hitler Youth though.


  • #17
    JohnathanM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    orourkeda wrote: »
    I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.

    Wow.


  • #18
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    What if you get fed up with licking cats?


  • #19
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Ratzinger was conscripted into the Nazi Youth, required to be there by law.
    I don't see how anyone can hold that against him, he was only 14 at the time

    At 14, who here would take a stand and refuse
    Sure it was 1941, what else can you do? Go into hiding or try to skip into Switzerland?


  • #20
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    Why does this actually matter though, outside of the incredible nerve of it? Seems like a pretty desperate move to me and does anybody actually pay attention to the membership numbers Fuerher Ratzinger spouts, anyhow as the Church slides into irrelevance?

    Ratzinger might do well to spend more time asking why so many actually bothered taking the time to be officially marked off, given that he's largely responsible.

    Indeed, its nice that the churches priorities dont lie with addressing the reasons WHY people are leaving in droves, just preventing them from doing it.


  • #21
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Well I don't think that I would have bothered officially defecting anyway because I don't really acknowledge the RCC to have any authority over me.. but I can't believe they've gone to the extent of disallowing it. It's a sign that the Church is dying if anything


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  • #22
    Revolution9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    feelingstressed wrote: »
    Ratzinger was conscripted into the Nazi Youth, required to be there by law.
    I don't see how anyone can hold that against him, he was only 14 at the time

    At 14, who here would take a stand and refuse

    I was forced to make my communion and conformation.

    I regret it.

    The Catholic Church still holds it against me though.


  • #23
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Surely a motivating factor for religious belief is that you believe in the message it preaches rather than mistakes that were made its administrators.


  • #24
    JohnathanM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    feelingstressed wrote: »
    Ratzinger was conscripted into the Nazi Youth, required to be there by law.
    I don't see how anyone can hold that against him, he was only 14 at the time

    At 14, who here would take a stand and refuse

    I understand that completely, but it's a handy stick to beat him with when you get bored of the protecting paedophiles stick. Or the stick for his opinions on science, and his moves against it within the Church.


  • #25
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Who is stopping you?

    It pays to certify stupidity.

    As a matter of interest do you bellitle the religious beliefs of everybody or do you reserve your attempts at stand up for the catholic church.

    Everybodies a catholic now? Peopel can believe what they want, I just have little or no time for an organisation run by old, unmarried virgins thinking they have any credibility in lecturing people how to live in the real world.
    My point about canon law was that wasn't there some instruction in it regarding the abuse cases where it seemd almost that it superceded state law? if so why is there a two tier legal system?


  • #26
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    krudler wrote: »
    I stuck chewing gum to a classmates hair once, kinda drew the line at being part of the Hitler Youth though.

    Youre clearly being facetious about this whole thing. You should hold hand with spaghetti monster man.


  • #27
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    orourkeda wrote: »
    I'm not stating that being a nazi is anything to be proud of but how many people have done things in their youth that they perhaps regret in later life.
    I know you're trying hard to defend your Pope, but that really takes the biscuit sir.

    edit:
    orourkeda wrote: »
    Surely a motivating factor for religious belief is that you believe in the message it preaches rather than mistakes that were made its administrators.


    Oh wait, now you're backpedaling? lol, which is it. You either disagree with the RCC leadership or you think being a Nazi was just a case of "Boys will be boys and commit acts of genocide"


  • #28
    D-Generate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    I am somewhat happy I am still enrolled on some Catholic list although i stopped believing eons ago. It does have its advantages now that I live in England, such as if and when I decide to have kids they have a golden ticket to a Catholic school which are very highly regarded in England. A lot of parents over here would love to be able to convert so that they could send their kids to a Catholic school!


  • #29
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Who cares what that joke organisation says is canon.

    They just change their own rules to suit themselves, and rarely follow the teachings of their own "bible" anyway.


  • #30
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Everybodies a catholic now? Peopel can believe what they want, I just have little or no time for an organisation run by old, unmarried virgins thinking they have any credibility in lecturing people how to live in the real world.
    My point about canon law was that wasn't there some instruction in it regarding the abuse cases where it seemd almost that it superceded state law? if so why is there a two tier legal system?

    You've misunderstood what I said. Read it again.

    Additionally, do you honestly think the legal system is only two tiered when it comes to the catholic church alone? That's a completely different issue and spreads beyond the RCC.


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  • #31
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    TBH i though the website a farce. A type of emporers new clothes so to speak

    If i am not a catholic i am not a catholic and thats it... I will have it removed from my status and no one will stop me...


    So tbh now that the novelty is over i am not surprised the website is suspended.


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